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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 30 2015 15:23 GMT
#1648
On October 01 2015 00:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On October 01 2015 00:21 rsoultin wrote:
now what makes me scum in your eyes? marv doesn't seem to strongly believe in his case anymore, so why do you?

what?1?!?!


you can scream what at me all you want. you said you liked the case and read my posts. what in my posts made you go mafia?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 30 2015 15:26 GMT
#1653
On October 01 2015 00:20 Rels wrote:
finished reading GB's filter and I'm not convinced at all he's mafia

3 scummy points:
1. this:
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On September 29 2015 07:59 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:49 Damdred wrote:
GB why are you so focused on truffle


I find his try hardiness weird
I don't understand posting his two opening sayinf he won't be playing because he will be practicing the keyboard, but immediately starts playing. Also, why posting it AFTER game start and not before?

These are just weak things, but him asking a question without having a clear objective feels scummy to me. The question he directed to you is typically of someone who saw something scummy and is after some clarification. Instead, he makes nothing out of your answer which indicates he asked just to as, which could simply be scum trying to look like scum hunting

scummy attack on Trfel based on his first posts when he should know they are baits.
It is NOT the main reason he is scumreading Trfel though, and his main reason makes sense:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 17:54 GlowingBear wrote:
- My problem with truffle is:

He came to the game really try hard - but his quearions are off. They usually don't have follow ups and I've caught him asking questions just to ask. For example, he asked a question to Damdred "why didn't you put 'town' as a requisition to be your friend?". Damdred answer, truffle never followed up. When I asked what truffle was expecting with that question he said he had no idea. When I asked what he got, he said nothing. Well, why did he ask the question then? I mean, I will usually ask things to further investigate someone's alignment and the answer provided will make me more certain of a read or uncertain. It doesn't seems that truffle was really caring to clarify something or to unveil Damdred's alignment. It just sounded like he wanted to look he was trying to produce content, which looks scummy


2. him saying "Damdred over reacting == mafia", when the meta read I've heard multiple times is exactly the inverse.

3. the "if rsoultin flips town I'll push marv" post:
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On September 30 2015 20:17 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 30 2015 20:15 rsoultin wrote:
On September 30 2015 20:13 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 30 2015 20:00 rsoultin wrote:
so to the townies who for some reason think that me going hey, i'm not sure that marv is actually town and trying to get people to look at and talk about him, is likely to come from a scum rsoul

whatcha gonna do when i flip town? xP


I promise I will go after him.


@.@

if he's town that would be really stupid


He said he is 100% sure on you and he is Marv; also, I don't like your read progression on him but I agree with your suspicions on him; also, he is driving the lunch away from truffle; also, he is not willing to discuss anyone else, he simply wants you to be Mafia.

So yeah. I have plenty of reasons to vote Marv if you flip green


Only the third point is really scummy I feel, and he cannot explain it. I would like him to explain to first two.


hn, fair enough

regarding the first...it doesn't make sense (namely you can ask a question expecting it to make your read stronger or weaker, but the answer itself doesn't do anything to change your read) but it could still come from a town gb unfortunately @.@

i'd also like to hear why he seems to believe that a read that has been demonstrated to him is false in a prior game he's clinging to here
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 30 2015 15:27 GMT
#1655
On October 01 2015 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 00:23 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:21 rsoultin wrote:
now what makes me scum in your eyes? marv doesn't seem to strongly believe in his case anymore, so why do you?

what?1?!?!


you can scream what at me all you want. you said you liked the case and read my posts. what in my posts made you go mafia?

i am pretty sure i have laid that out.
i also said i like marv's case.

i am not sure what is so hard to understand here.


humor me please

i'm trying to decide if you're mafia or busy
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 30 2015 15:27 GMT
#1656
On October 01 2015 00:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On October 01 2015 00:25 Rels wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv GB is most likely not mafia. You would be surprised how dumb he can be sometimes.

what dumb things are you talking about this game, that he would do as town but not as mafia ?

what marv pointed out.
but the fact is he is at least trying to be reasonable which makes him town.


why?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 30 2015 15:30 GMT
#1664
ye he's emotionally inept as scum

like super robotic

town damdy pouts and rages and grrs and more importantly gb tunneled him for this very reason in a prior game and raged at him after for "behaving badly" so he 100% knows that damdy can do all of this as town
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 30 2015 15:32 GMT
#1669
On October 01 2015 00:30 marvellosity wrote:
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On October 01 2015 00:30 rsoultin wrote:
ye he's emotionally inept as scum

like super robotic

town damdy pouts and rages and grrs and more importantly gb tunneled him for this very reason in a prior game and raged at him after for "behaving badly" so he 100% knows that damdy can do all of this as town

can you find this?


i believe so. i wasn't in it but i should be able to...i remember gb crowing about damdy being scum after he was being nk'd and me going uh...no...and he not believing me really till post-game lol ><

it was the game onegu won by claiming vig...not sure on the name
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 30 2015 15:35 GMT
#1674
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485325-generic-boring-mini-mafia

On May 26 2015 12:13 GlowingBear wrote:
I said it in the obs QT and I'm saying it here now:

Damdy, I'm upset with your attitude towards me in this game.

Also, you're too sensible when people call you mafia


one of his post-game posts...but yeah this was definitely the game
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 30 2015 15:37 GMT
#1681
On September 30 2015 18:47 GlowingBear wrote:
I think I agree with you about rsoultin to be honest


???

then what is this gb?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 30 2015 15:39 GMT
#1683
On October 01 2015 00:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 00:33 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
lol am i the only one who can see what's happening here?

what do you think that is?

note where my vote remains

GlowingBear is now "under attack" from rsoultin.
Suddenly, when you say "if i change my vote i will vote for GlowingBear".

None of the things rsoultin now points out regarding GB were not important before. GB is one of Damdred's scumreads. The same guy who was "so goood" he was worth asking about his read on you was not worth discussing a read on GlowingBear (who rsoultin never scumread before now).... The only comment about GB from rsoultin is "i would probably lynch GB over LS", and that is BEFORE you went down the pile. hmmmzzzz.....

yeah it makes sense.


so?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 30 2015 15:45 GMT
#1686
On October 01 2015 00:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 00:37 rsoultin wrote:
On September 30 2015 18:47 GlowingBear wrote:
I think I agree with you about rsoultin to be honest


???

then what is this gb?


This is me agreeing with marv's argument on you?


so you're tacitly supporting a lynch on me over your scumread cause why?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 30 2015 15:46 GMT
#1687
On October 01 2015 00:39 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 00:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:33 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
lol am i the only one who can see what's happening here?

what do you think that is?

note where my vote remains

GlowingBear is now "under attack" from rsoultin.
Suddenly, when you say "if i change my vote i will vote for GlowingBear".

None of the things rsoultin now points out regarding GB were not important before. GB is one of Damdred's scumreads. The same guy who was "so goood" he was worth asking about his read on you was not worth discussing a read on GlowingBear (who rsoultin never scumread before now).... The only comment about GB from rsoultin is "i would probably lynch GB over LS", and that is BEFORE you went down the pile. hmmmzzzz.....

yeah it makes sense.


so?


On September 30 2015 22:17 rsoultin wrote:
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On September 30 2015 22:13 MoosyDoosy wrote:
rsoul, what do you think of Rels right now?


i dunnae i think he could actually be town :/

and him apologizing to me isn't as skeevy if he's doubting so that's good

hard game is hard ><

i think i need to look at gb cause i didn't have a hard townread on him, damdy was suspicious of him, and there's something off about how he approached this marv case on me, too, but i was distracted by marv

also really not sure about rayn right now

in essence i'm too close to this and i was already having trouble finding scum


this was well before marv said anything

ademas

i already said that gb's shifting implicit reads on me throughout the game i originally thought were part of trying to get a reaction, and it seemed he got one out of you

speaking of which

read progression on me gb please ^^

it hasn't been clear throughout the game
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 30 2015 15:47 GMT
#1688
like i'm pretty sure marv hadn't even returned to the thread at that point

why are you propagating this shit rayn? @.@
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 30 2015 15:51 GMT
#1692
On October 01 2015 00:48 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 00:45 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:41 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:37 rsoultin wrote:
On September 30 2015 18:47 GlowingBear wrote:
I think I agree with you about rsoultin to be honest


???

then what is this gb?


This is me agreeing with marv's argument on you?


so you're tacitly supporting a lynch on me over your scumread cause why?


Because it makes sense.

I mean, you COULD be mafia after all. I'm not townreading you after what Marv brought. I still prefer truffle's lynch. I just can't argue more than I did anymore. And I'm getting used to be very wrong. I'm not going to sacrifice my trip to repeat the same arguments to people that won't listen to me


no i can't

his case still is just that i changed my read, which does not make someone mafia...he also didn't like that i called his push on me asinine but i explained that more than adequately

so you don't care if truffle gets lynched or not? because you could be wrong? but you'd push marv when i flip town for trying to divert the lynch from truffle? that sounds like a pretty strong scumread to me...yet you're not yelling your bloody head off...because you could be wrong?

and your solution is to push to lynch an associative read over something you're so uncertain of you won't push it hard yourself...even for you this is very nonsensical

you know that damdred gets angry as town. why did you say he didn't?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 30 2015 15:53 GMT
#1695
On October 01 2015 00:51 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 00:46 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:39 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:33 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
lol am i the only one who can see what's happening here?

what do you think that is?

note where my vote remains

GlowingBear is now "under attack" from rsoultin.
Suddenly, when you say "if i change my vote i will vote for GlowingBear".

None of the things rsoultin now points out regarding GB were not important before. GB is one of Damdred's scumreads. The same guy who was "so goood" he was worth asking about his read on you was not worth discussing a read on GlowingBear (who rsoultin never scumread before now).... The only comment about GB from rsoultin is "i would probably lynch GB over LS", and that is BEFORE you went down the pile. hmmmzzzz.....

yeah it makes sense.


so?


On September 30 2015 22:17 rsoultin wrote:
On September 30 2015 22:13 MoosyDoosy wrote:
rsoul, what do you think of Rels right now?


i dunnae i think he could actually be town :/

and him apologizing to me isn't as skeevy if he's doubting so that's good

hard game is hard ><

i think i need to look at gb cause i didn't have a hard townread on him, damdy was suspicious of him, and there's something off about how he approached this marv case on me, too, but i was distracted by marv

also really not sure about rayn right now

in essence i'm too close to this and i was already having trouble finding scum


this was well before marv said anything

ademas

i already said that gb's shifting implicit reads on me throughout the game i originally thought were part of trying to get a reaction, and it seemed he got one out of you

speaking of which

read progression on me gb please ^^

it hasn't been clear throughout the game


As I said before in another, I usually don't care for your alignment until it's late game. I mostly found weird that you had only a lean townread on me when you are very good to know my alignment. You've been keeping the option of kynching me open which made me wary. Then Marv brought an argument on you that looked coherent. Then you look scummy.


i've been going i dunnae and townleaning you on gut assuming you were doing something that you clearly weren't. this makes your waffle on me scummy rather than by design to see if you could find mafia by being inconsistent as hell
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 30 2015 15:57 GMT
#1699
On October 01 2015 00:56 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 00:51 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:48 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:45 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:41 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:37 rsoultin wrote:
On September 30 2015 18:47 GlowingBear wrote:
I think I agree with you about rsoultin to be honest


???

then what is this gb?


This is me agreeing with marv's argument on you?


so you're tacitly supporting a lynch on me over your scumread cause why?


Because it makes sense.

I mean, you COULD be mafia after all. I'm not townreading you after what Marv brought. I still prefer truffle's lynch. I just can't argue more than I did anymore. And I'm getting used to be very wrong. I'm not going to sacrifice my trip to repeat the same arguments to people that won't listen to me


no i can't

his case still is just that i changed my read, which does not make someone mafia...he also didn't like that i called his push on me asinine but i explained that more than adequately

so you don't care if truffle gets lynched or not? because you could be wrong? but you'd push marv when i flip town for trying to divert the lynch from truffle? that sounds like a pretty strong scumread to me...yet you're not yelling your bloody head off...because you could be wrong?

and your solution is to push to lynch an associative read over something you're so uncertain of you won't push it hard yourself...even for you this is very nonsensical

you know that damdred gets angry as town. why did you say he didn't?


I know he gets mopy as town, the only exception he got angry was that game where he had serious IRL issues.

So that's it.

I'm not yelling my head off because I don't care. I want truffle dead because I think he is Mafia. I want Damdred dead because I think he is Mafia. Those are the two I want dead. NOBODY ELSE is willing to discuss them with me, so I don't care. Rayn is completely ignoring my posts, which is boring as hell.

So yeah, I want truffle lynched but I won't put effort on it at all


case on truffle please

i don't know if you've been privy to damdred's other growls but i do know that i've told you how to read him before and you know that this isn't a scum tell at all for him. so why is he scum?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 30 2015 16:05 GMT
#1701
On October 01 2015 00:56 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 00:51 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:48 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:45 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:41 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:37 rsoultin wrote:
On September 30 2015 18:47 GlowingBear wrote:
I think I agree with you about rsoultin to be honest


???

then what is this gb?


This is me agreeing with marv's argument on you?


so you're tacitly supporting a lynch on me over your scumread cause why?


Because it makes sense.

I mean, you COULD be mafia after all. I'm not townreading you after what Marv brought. I still prefer truffle's lynch. I just can't argue more than I did anymore. And I'm getting used to be very wrong. I'm not going to sacrifice my trip to repeat the same arguments to people that won't listen to me


no i can't

his case still is just that i changed my read, which does not make someone mafia...he also didn't like that i called his push on me asinine but i explained that more than adequately

so you don't care if truffle gets lynched or not? because you could be wrong? but you'd push marv when i flip town for trying to divert the lynch from truffle? that sounds like a pretty strong scumread to me...yet you're not yelling your bloody head off...because you could be wrong?

and your solution is to push to lynch an associative read over something you're so uncertain of you won't push it hard yourself...even for you this is very nonsensical

you know that damdred gets angry as town. why did you say he didn't?


I know he gets mopy as town, the only exception he got angry was that game where he had serious IRL issues.

So that's it.

I'm not yelling my head off because I don't care. I want truffle dead because I think he is Mafia. I want Damdred dead because I think he is Mafia. Those are the two I want dead. NOBODY ELSE is willing to discuss them with me, so I don't care. Rayn is completely ignoring my posts, which is boring as hell.

So yeah, I want truffle lynched but I won't put effort on it at all


to be clear, this isn't true

in tropical he reacted this way as well and i could probably find several other games if i bothered. i know for a fact that you've witnessed it once. i am willing to entertain the idea that perhaps you really think it's an exception because short of going through all your games together i can't really verify one way or another

but damdred certainly gets mad as town and i've yet to see him respond like this as scum. ever. ever ever. so if you plan to keep pushing him you'd better have something else
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 30 2015 16:08 GMT
#1702
On October 01 2015 01:05 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 00:57 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:56 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:51 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:48 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:45 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:41 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 01 2015 00:37 rsoultin wrote:
On September 30 2015 18:47 GlowingBear wrote:
I think I agree with you about rsoultin to be honest


???

then what is this gb?


This is me agreeing with marv's argument on you?


so you're tacitly supporting a lynch on me over your scumread cause why?


Because it makes sense.

I mean, you COULD be mafia after all. I'm not townreading you after what Marv brought. I still prefer truffle's lynch. I just can't argue more than I did anymore. And I'm getting used to be very wrong. I'm not going to sacrifice my trip to repeat the same arguments to people that won't listen to me


no i can't

his case still is just that i changed my read, which does not make someone mafia...he also didn't like that i called his push on me asinine but i explained that more than adequately

so you don't care if truffle gets lynched or not? because you could be wrong? but you'd push marv when i flip town for trying to divert the lynch from truffle? that sounds like a pretty strong scumread to me...yet you're not yelling your bloody head off...because you could be wrong?

and your solution is to push to lynch an associative read over something you're so uncertain of you won't push it hard yourself...even for you this is very nonsensical

you know that damdred gets angry as town. why did you say he didn't?


I know he gets mopy as town, the only exception he got angry was that game where he had serious IRL issues.

So that's it.

I'm not yelling my head off because I don't care. I want truffle dead because I think he is Mafia. I want Damdred dead because I think he is Mafia. Those are the two I want dead. NOBODY ELSE is willing to discuss them with me, so I don't care. Rayn is completely ignoring my posts, which is boring as hell.

So yeah, I want truffle lynched but I won't put effort on it at all


case on truffle please

i don't know if you've been privy to damdred's other growls but i do know that i've told you how to read him before and you know that this isn't a scum tell at all for him. so why is he scum?


Truffle is scum because he came try harding just to look good because his big load of questions didn't have any follow up nor it had any conclusions that led him into reads in this game. It's getting close to deadline and we don't know what his reads are.

Damdred is scum for all his bait thing. He made it sound like he had a plan but he failed to explain what it was all about, and he failed to show us what reads he got from it, and yet we don't see Damdred actively trying to solve the game. He's just there, commenting stuff, barely existing.


- the no reads i'll accept...not getting something out of a question can happen with town, as well

- damdred did get reads out of his bait thing so i'm not sure what you're on about. he's also been actively trying to solve the game
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Netherlands15308 Posts
September 30 2015 16:09 GMT
#1705
why did you find truffle's opening scummy when it's the exact technique you taught him and last time he did something like that that i can recall (student v) you defended him for it?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 30 2015 16:10 GMT
#1707
On October 01 2015 01:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It's like magic. GB has been saying that same stuff for the last 2 days and now it becomes relevant.
Truly magical.


if you're going to attempt to push me, at least pretend like you're putting some effort behind it instead of throwing weak potshots my way
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 30 2015 16:12 GMT
#1709
On October 01 2015 01:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
But let's lynch GB now when before we could have lynched scott, Rels or fuck... even marv!!!


yes...i didn't like GBs posts this morning after those three scumreads

and i'm townreading rels and mav

but clearly this makes no sense

go suck a dick <3
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