Newbie Student Mafia XIV: Firefly - Page 6

On September 12 2015 21:50 Superbia wrote:
My problem at the moment is that both scott's and fidei's reads are logical fallacies. They read the "shitfight" as worthless and essentially both ignore boxerfred's town case on me without as much as a thought (like they literally do not refute it). To me this shows an adamant point of view coming in from n2. Let me ask you (scott+fidei) a question, have you ever asked yourself the question "what would town Superbia do during this day?"? No. Regardless of what I would do, you would be fine calling me mafia today:
I do something -> Superbia is struggling to get townread.
I do nothing -> Superbia has given up as mafia.

This is not how town should play. I am surprised by both that you are perfectly willing to call me mafia on n2 for no good reason (I'll explain below how mafia would act after GB's fake claim, and why this would potentially finger scott). Yet only scott has played a single game with me (iirc, and I was town). So you are both willing to hard call me mafia coming into n2 and not evaluate on d3 ("lolz this game is ez boiz"(. This could be town being ignorant and arrogant, but it's likely at least one of the two is mafia.

Let me explain to you how GB's claim influences mafia play:
When GB claims doctor at the end of d1. Mafia knows glowingbear dies the next day, and flips mafia. It is therefore incredibly likely that mafia will bus GB ASAP.

In fact, it makes it more likely that there was already a bus on GB (I'm actually leaning towards scott), or that slam was bussing GB (I have a townread on slam independent of his push on GB). Scott looks so fucking good after GB flips mafia, since he was on his dick since early d1 (so early that it reeks of TMI/bussing). In fact, GB even made an entire case on scott! (and granted, in GB's meta he has not made a case on his partner d1, but he has made a case on his partner when he was about to die, iirc). But I personally feel like the case was ill-timed (train was starting on GB).

Now, this is made all the more damning by the fact that scott seems absolutely fine to see this day play out with a lynch on me (fidei too, for that matter). Let me tell you this much: I'm unsure of breshke's alignment at this point, but if he flips green today or tomorrow, I know for a fact that there's at least one between fidei and scott (though this may remain true even if he flips red).

Honestly I don't believe we should kill scott today, but I think fidei is an excellent target.

tl;dr:
- Fidei never played with me (except voice).
- Fidei fine with not evaluating my play and being adamant on lynch on me for no good reason (should not have a good read on me).
- Fidei believes I am a strong player, if I am mafia my play would have been exceptionally weak (I would have bussed GB pre-flip, as any decent mafia player would do).
- Scott played with me once (I was town)
- Scott fine with not evaluating my play and being adamant on lynch on me for no good reason (should not have a good read on me).
- Distance between scott and GB does not mean scott is town.
- Mafia for sure bussed GB pre-flip.

On September 14 2015 07:59 scott31337 wrote:
Moosy why did I go to a null to you yesterday, BTW?