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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 16 2015 17:11 GMT
#7421
On July 17 2015 02:08 Holyflare wrote:
ok oats you turned shit, np sheep me as your punishment


Just so you know, if you flip town and you get upset when you learn that I'm town, realize that your silly martyring is what caused everyone to start acting emotionally. Like at this point if you're town idgaf, you can die anyway.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 16 2015 17:11 GMT
#7422
Or bf dies or ebh dies.
I mean, there is really no info you are getting from 4 more townflips.
No gg, No skill.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 16 2015 17:12 GMT
#7423
I swapped my vote to HF. As for the gross misinterpretation I'm referring to his pushes on Ras, trfel and myself early in the game. I debunked the meta read at least twice and even Harkon mentioned a major discrepancy with you (specifically clashing with town leaders) for me being town earlier on reading the same game.

I totally want ruXxar to die as well but of course that's not going to happen. Well not today anyways.

I should have shot you n2 and just gone with my gut :/
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2015 17:13 GMT
#7424
I cannot help being an emotional person with outside issues that added up on in game issues. You CAN help to ignore the policy since it is exactly that, your own policy. The only person at fault in a policy is the person stubborn enough to continue it.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 16 2015 17:13 GMT
#7425
On July 17 2015 02:10 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2015 02:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 17 2015 02:07 Holyflare wrote:
On July 17 2015 02:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 17 2015 01:58 Holyflare wrote:
On July 17 2015 01:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
Clarity pls. He just proposed that we do a super anti town thing of no lynching. That's on the same level as damdred being jk and visiting ritoky. Aka never happening.

Lynch hf.


i thought we would still have 2 lynches, like what, you expect me as mafia to assume people won't do the quick maths and figure it out?

I would expect you as town to do the math and figure it out. You made a mistake, you pay.


well i actually wanted 2 no lynches, i said it before for the nk info instead of 2 potential mislynches because i think the nk's will be far better info

I die, ls dies, breshke dies, trfel dies..

Wow much info.


so why doesn't hts/rsoultin/clarity die, you think you are townier than them?
er yes
No gg, No skill.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2015 17:14 GMT
#7426
On July 17 2015 02:12 Half the Sky wrote:
I swapped my vote to HF. As for the gross misinterpretation I'm referring to his pushes on Ras, trfel and myself early in the game. I debunked the meta read at least twice and even Harkon mentioned a major discrepancy with you (specifically clashing with town leaders) for me being town earlier on reading the same game.

I totally want ruXxar to die as well but of course that's not going to happen. Well not today anyways.

I should have shot you n2 and just gone with my gut :/


QUOTE IT LOL. Where is the misrepresentation. WHERE WHERE. How can you say it's a misrep when rsoultin herself the person being the antagonistic ass hole AGREED with the trfel case? HOW?

Where did I misrep you in the slightest? Where does that exist? How do you know that is the case if you ignored all of my posts and only ever answered one right at deadline? Is that my fault you played like shit and ignored a town player and perpetuated my read when you know that i get tunneled on people? You keep mentioning aperture and forgetting all about it.

Pathetic.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 16 2015 17:16 GMT
#7427
On July 17 2015 02:13 Holyflare wrote:
I cannot help being an emotional person with outside issues that added up on in game issues. You CAN help to ignore the policy since it is exactly that, your own policy. The only person at fault in a policy is the person stubborn enough to continue it.


I find it hard to townread you now. You're still saying some things that I can see are more likely to come from town HF but it's not enough.

I might be convinced to lynch ruxxar instead, you should go read up on him.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2015 17:16 GMT
#7428
nah too late you're committed to me, have fun!
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 16 2015 17:17 GMT
#7429
Alright, sick double martyr bro.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 16 2015 17:22 GMT
#7430
On July 17 2015 02:14 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2015 02:12 Half the Sky wrote:
I swapped my vote to HF. As for the gross misinterpretation I'm referring to his pushes on Ras, trfel and myself early in the game. I debunked the meta read at least twice and even Harkon mentioned a major discrepancy with you (specifically clashing with town leaders) for me being town earlier on reading the same game.

I totally want ruXxar to die as well but of course that's not going to happen. Well not today anyways.

I should have shot you n2 and just gone with my gut :/


QUOTE IT LOL. Where is the misrepresentation. WHERE WHERE. How can you say it's a misrep when rsoultin herself the person being the antagonistic ass hole AGREED with the trfel case? HOW?

Where did I misrep you in the slightest? Where does that exist? How do you know that is the case if you ignored all of my posts and only ever answered one right at deadline? Is that my fault you played like shit and ignored a town player and perpetuated my read when you know that i get tunneled on people? You keep mentioning aperture and forgetting all about it.

Pathetic.


I mentioned Aperture in defence of OWS, not the other way around.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
July 16 2015 17:34 GMT
#7431
On July 17 2015 02:22 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2015 02:14 Holyflare wrote:
On July 17 2015 02:12 Half the Sky wrote:
I swapped my vote to HF. As for the gross misinterpretation I'm referring to his pushes on Ras, trfel and myself early in the game. I debunked the meta read at least twice and even Harkon mentioned a major discrepancy with you (specifically clashing with town leaders) for me being town earlier on reading the same game.

I totally want ruXxar to die as well but of course that's not going to happen. Well not today anyways.

I should have shot you n2 and just gone with my gut :/


QUOTE IT LOL. Where is the misrepresentation. WHERE WHERE. How can you say it's a misrep when rsoultin herself the person being the antagonistic ass hole AGREED with the trfel case? HOW?

Where did I misrep you in the slightest? Where does that exist? How do you know that is the case if you ignored all of my posts and only ever answered one right at deadline? Is that my fault you played like shit and ignored a town player and perpetuated my read when you know that i get tunneled on people? You keep mentioning aperture and forgetting all about it.

Pathetic.


I mentioned Aperture in defence of OWS, not the other way around.

I confirm that she did use it as a defence of OWS.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22102 Posts
July 16 2015 17:41 GMT
#7432
Gonna sheep the fuck out of HF if he flips town.

You can hold me onto this later.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 16 2015 17:43 GMT
#7433
On July 17 2015 02:41 Vivax wrote:
Gonna sheep the fuck out of HF if he flips town.

You can hold me onto this later.


Great, can't wait
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22102 Posts
July 16 2015 17:46 GMT
#7434
I don't know how so many feel confident in him being town, including you. I really have no idea what he is, every game I just treat him as if he didn't exist until it becomes an issue cause I don't want to go insane trying to get a read on him.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 16 2015 18:01 GMT
#7435
On July 17 2015 02:46 Vivax wrote:
I don't know how so many feel confident in him being town, including you. I really have no idea what he is, every game I just treat him as if he didn't exist until it becomes an issue cause I don't want to go insane trying to get a read on him.


I was pretty confident, then harkon yelled at me but I still felt alright, then he martyred and now I just want him to die. ez game
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 16 2015 18:20 GMT
#7436
I'm here.
Retired.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 16 2015 18:51 GMT
#7437
@Obi, can you answer my questions?

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 16 2015 22:36 ruXxar wrote:
I'm not going to get onto the HF train.
I've stated my position, and I may be swayed into lynching HF tomorrow, but not before that.

Right now I still feel good about a vivax or rsoul lynch.

I don't feel so good about an obi lynch.
I've had a slight town lean on him this game, and him defending me makes me not want to vote for him either.
If I had to choose between a HF and an Obi lynch i'd reluctantly lynch Obi, but I'm not feeling good about lynching either.

I'm going to vote for vivax and if anyone wants to join me that's cool.


@Obi.

HF has a point about your stance switch on clarity.
Reading your filter all I see is clarity is mafia until HF martyrs and after that it's suddenly "I don't want to lynch clarity anymore".

1) Can you explain exactly what made you change your stance on clarity?
Are you saying that clarity is no longer a scum-read or that you simply have stronger scum-reads atm?

2) I'd like you to expand a bit on why your top scum-reads are what they are.
Reading your filter I can't find many reasons for your scum-reads.

Can you write a short summary on why you scum-read these people: EBH, HF, Clarity?

"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2015 18:57 GMT
#7438
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/481138-aperture-mafia-4-this-time-its-personal?page=308#6143

People should read this post from aperture where i tried to solve the game and town side hardcore and hts posted all the same things she posted here (read her filter in aperture) so knows absolutely nothing she says makes me mafia at all. It's literally the same phrasing too "opportunistic" bla bla. Don't count her out from being mafia at all.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 16 2015 19:05 GMT
#7439
Why I want to lynch EBH:
His reads are conjured out of the ether; he can't or won't explain them because he's mafia.
Plus, there's the fact that he does nothing but act antagonistic when asked to explain, something that I find very hard to justify from a town perspective.

Why I want to lynch HF:
His push is objectively bad (for reasons that have been pointed out by other dead townies lol) in yet he continues to look for excuses to keep pushing his read. (RE: the fact that people have pointed out that his meta read doesn't make sense in yet he sticks with it despite all evidence pointing to the contrary, the fact that the evidence he's pulling up doesn't make sense in yet he sticks with it, purposefully ignoring bits of my filter where I explain things and saying "no he never said this before")

Plus, the reasons I was talking about before where he kept dropping tons of names at once and not really looking into them reeks of doubtcasting, etc.

THEN there's the fact of the matter that he's acting like I should 100% trust in his reads while he thinks I'm 100% mafia, and that me not trusting his reads makes me mafia. ???

I don't scumread clarity.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 16 2015 19:06 GMT
#7440
Honestly even if I didn't scumread Hf I'd still vote him out of spite.
I'm fucking tired of him and I want him to die. I've given him a number of outs and I've tried to talk about other people and all he does is scream scum in my face.
Retired.
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