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Okay I have to go to bed ive already stayed up far too late im going to vote ruxxar idc if HF thinks he is town and i think HF is townish.
Im setting like 5 alarms so i should be here before EOD
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No honestly I agree with Clarity and Oats here we can't no lynch. Which means I'll have to vote Holyflare if nothing happens.
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NVM oats is right I'm dumb
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On July 17 2015 01:16 Breshke wrote:
HF where is this coming from. Like i get im a shitter but you actually have a scumread why even bring up no lynch
Nobody is listening? Ls is rsoultins bitch and won't listen to reason. Hts doesn't even read the game and spouts nonsense. Bf/you/me are logical and ruxxar hard defending me is crazy/mafiay but nobody has talked to me about this clarity thing at all lol.
How can he possibly think my scum read on him is opportunistic in the slightest? Alienating someone hard town reading me the whole game is silly. He said it's because he was voting me so an easy switch which still doesn't make the slightest bit of sense. How does he go from a strong town read against all sense to a scum read even though he says all my points are logical.
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On July 17 2015 01:00 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2015 22:29 Clarity_nl wrote:
I actually think HF has been contributing useful stuff. Like I like his push on OWS and I like his reasoning for townreading oats for starters.
However I struggle to see how he martyrs, and then when he comes back he 180s on me. Like he goes from "clarity's thoughts align with mine, sheep him when I'm dead" to "clarity confirmed scum for believing in my OWS push and never wavering in his townread of me" when I did in fact waver quite a bit, I gave harkon plenty of opportunity to explain to me why he thinks HF is scum and I was going to read up on HF, however HF martyrs and suddenly I just don't give a shit. I was dreading having to go through HF's meta of games I wasn't in but I would have done it, but this is just dumb.
HF by the time you started getting milo to talk I was convinced he was scum, he had practically given up and was not trying to defend himself nor was he scumhunting. I believed in my case and all my townreads were calling him scum.
Only in the last hour or two did he start sounding like town but I think that's the easiest bit to fake "woe is me I'm so sorry guys I should have played better"
I have not been disruptive at all so you are clearly misrepresenting me. Show nested quote +On July 16 2015 22:32 Clarity_nl wrote:
I've been "hard townreading" HF all game but this is the first time he's called me scum for it, which is very timely as he's the one getting lynched. That and the martyring followed by coming back when it looks like he's actually getting lynched are the reasons for wanting to lynch him now. Show nested quote +On July 16 2015 22:41 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 16 2015 22:35 Holyflare wrote:On July 16 2015 22:32 Clarity_nl wrote:
I've been "hard townreading" HF all game but this is the first time he's called me scum for it, which is very timely as he's the one getting lynched. That and the martyring followed by coming back when it looks like he's actually getting lynched are the reasons for wanting to lynch him now. I'm sorry how is this timely? What use is scum reading the person who was hard defending me? Do you even think about what you write before you post it? I was in a dark tunnel of shit and now I'm out of it and have a good idea about the game. If you had thought it made me scum you would have brought it up earlier? Not wait till you're the main wagon and then go "btw clarity scum" I wasn't hard defending you I let people attack you as much as they wanted. Bringing up your own meta to astonishing detail is not actually helping you. The moment you identify your own meta is the moment you can break it and then claim "look I can't be scum because X". You've brought up your own meta so often this game and you've even shown that you have read your own filter multiple times this game. I was willing to scratch that off as just having a massive head but now I think it's because you're scum trying to keep your story straight. You just look like you're flailing now. Like you definitely could still be town (hedge hedge) but the chance of you being scum has gone up a ton. Combine the things that I said with harkon being convinced you're scum and marv not giving a read on you when he's normally super chatty about whatever (which means he's unsure) and I'm liking this lynch. Show nested quote +On July 16 2015 22:47 Clarity_nl wrote:
Basically the moment it appears I "stop" townreading you you call me scum, because as scum there was no point in pushing me while I was, in your words, "hard defending you". Now that I'm voting for you it's a good time for you to 180 on me.
As town however you would have brought it up much earlier if you truly believed it made me scum, because as town you don't give a shit if someone is townreading you or not, you give a shit if they are scum. If you thought I was scum you would have brought it up, so the 180 makes no sense from a town perspective. Show nested quote +On July 16 2015 22:49 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 16 2015 22:47 Holyflare wrote:Somehow the hard town read turned into a spite vote which turned into a solid mafia read all while all i did was post content that clarity liked! You guys be the judge  It's not a solid mafia read, but I'm fine with your lynch now, make of that what you will. I've given my reasons. If you are town reread me and make damn sure you're happy with your scumread because if you're town then you are losing us the game. Show nested quote +On July 16 2015 22:58 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 16 2015 22:52 Holyflare wrote:On July 16 2015 22:49 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 16 2015 22:47 Holyflare wrote:Somehow the hard town read turned into a spite vote which turned into a solid mafia read all while all i did was post content that clarity liked! You guys be the judge It's not a solid mafia read, but I'm fine with your lynch now, make of that what you will. I've given my reasons. If you are town reread me and make damn sure you're happy with your scumread because if you're town then you are losing us the game. Actually I'm not losing anyone the game. Why does me being wrong on you change a read? I think my reasons are entirely legitimate and besides that why would it matter anyway? I've just posted my thoughts all cycle and you have said nothing about any of it other than it could be a bus. Ok clarity mr not do anything for 3 solid lynches and blames the guy actually giving solid reasoning for his reads. This is true, but it doesn't mean anything. And yes you are losing the game if you're town and you somehow convince people to lynch me after you. Suddenly I've done nothing all game? I guess our reads n3 just lined up by sheer luck, seeing as you told people to sheep me after you got lynched? Show nested quote +On July 16 2015 23:02 Clarity_nl wrote:
You know this whole saying you're gonna afk from now on doesn't work if you come back every time after you say it?
But you know what, yes my vote on you started mainly as just anger at your martyring for no reason, I'm still kinda angry at you. So I'm gonna take a break now and reread some stuff and see if I can change my mind.
fwiw I think your 180 on me has decent reasoning, but the timing is super suspect. The fact that you're playing on my emotions more than my rational thoughts actually makes it more likely you're scum I think. So yeah I basically just copy/pasted a full page of my filter because apparently you missed all of it.
Reading this I can see where you're coming from. Makes sense.
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On July 17 2015 01:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hf, you said earlier that you agree that your pushes were opportunistic. And now you are doing this?
Where? Only 1 rsoul push was and i instantly dropped it and tried to get people to talk about it instead. Hts simply implies ive had multiple opportunistic reads which is a gross misrep.
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I've been "hard townreading" HF all game but this is the first time he's called me scum for it, which is very timely as he's the one getting lynched. That and the martyring followed by coming back when it looks like he's actually getting lynched are the reasons for wanting to lynch him now.
Who on earth ever says this lol??? Where is the incentive for mafia hf to do this at all?
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On July 17 2015 01:24 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +I've been "hard townreading" HF all game but this is the first time he's called me scum for it, which is very timely as he's the one getting lynched. That and the martyring followed by coming back when it looks like he's actually getting lynched are the reasons for wanting to lynch him now. Who on earth ever says this lol??? Where is the incentive for mafia hf to do this at all?
The moment I vote you and look like I want to lynch you you suddenly call me scum, it makes no sense from a town perspective to only do this now, as according to you I've been calling you town all game (pretty much true), but only now it makes me scum.
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On July 17 2015 01:26 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2015 01:24 Holyflare wrote:I've been "hard townreading" HF all game but this is the first time he's called me scum for it, which is very timely as he's the one getting lynched. That and the martyring followed by coming back when it looks like he's actually getting lynched are the reasons for wanting to lynch him now. Who on earth ever says this lol??? Where is the incentive for mafia hf to do this at all? The moment I vote you and look like I want to lynch you you suddenly call me scum, it makes no sense from a town perspective to only do this now, as according to you I've been calling you town all game (pretty much true), but only now it makes me scum.
But how does this make sense for mafia holyflare to ever do???? Where's my play to survive here???? It doesn't look like shit. You voted me out of spite for being angry why would i suddenly assume you scum read me instead of policy like you mentioned 8 times already.
Then i play and policy turns to scum read because you like my points. You even like my points on you. Ok clarity.
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On July 17 2015 01:28 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2015 01:26 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 17 2015 01:24 Holyflare wrote:I've been "hard townreading" HF all game but this is the first time he's called me scum for it, which is very timely as he's the one getting lynched. That and the martyring followed by coming back when it looks like he's actually getting lynched are the reasons for wanting to lynch him now. Who on earth ever says this lol??? Where is the incentive for mafia hf to do this at all? The moment I vote you and look like I want to lynch you you suddenly call me scum, it makes no sense from a town perspective to only do this now, as according to you I've been calling you town all game (pretty much true), but only now it makes me scum. But how does this make sense for mafia holyflare to ever do???? Where's my play to survive here???? It doesn't look like shit. You voted me out of spite for being angry why would i suddenly assume you scum read me instead of policy like you mentioned 8 times already. Then i play and policy turns to scum read because you like my points. You even like my points on you. Ok clarity.
Being logical is not something only town can do. I've explained why you have a good chance to flip scum.
If it doesn't make sense from a town perspective, what does that leave? Like if you were town you would have just explained your thought process in why you suddenly 180d, instead your defense is "I wouldn't do this as scum".
You gotta find your mislynches somewhere, that's a reason for scum!HF to do it. Is it an ideal explanation? No. Is it a better explanation than town!HF's reasons? Yes.
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Um what i explained why i 180'd. I couldn't rationally think about the game. Then reading obi's filter and some of his posts alluding to you being scummy seemed pretty on point. Then after quitting i started thinking rationally and you hard defending me against everything became scummy. So what i didn't mention it before? You somehow think im the most inconsistent shitty mafia player in the world if i say i like your list and then scum read you. That just isnt the case at all. It's the simple fact your play is scummy as shit and you changing your read to a scum read on me id the MOST ooportunistic push in this gaMe. Lets not forget that you scum read me for flipping mt read on you despite all the stuff existing but news flash.
YOUR READ ON ME HAS CHANGED FOR THINGS IVE PREBIOUSLY DONE IN THE GAME LOL. That you town read me for.
So why aren't you mafia again?
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Every point you raise as a scum read for me is what you are doing x10. Checkmate clarity.
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"scum hf needs a mislynch somewhere so he picked me and it's scummy because that always existed!"
"hf is scummy for all of his play even though that already existed! Even though i like all of his points, even on myself and obi! "
Better vote this guy after I'm gone guys.
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Hts has SUPER DUPER dodged all my posts today btw while complaining about my lynch earlier and wanting to lynch va or ruxxar. Don't treat her as town because she writes big posts. Bf's points were good
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On July 17 2015 01:41 Holyflare wrote:
"scum hf needs a mislynch somewhere so he picked me and it's scummy because that always existed!"
"hf is scummy for all of his play even though that already existed! Even though i like all of his points, even on myself and obi! "
Better vote this guy after I'm gone guys.
The second part is way off. I read you as town n3, what have I pointed out prior to d4 that I called you scum for?
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On July 17 2015 01:43 Holyflare wrote:
Hts has SUPER DUPER dodged all my posts today btw while complaining about my lynch earlier and wanting to lynch va or ruxxar. Don't treat her as town because she writes big posts. Bf's points were good
You mean bf's posts saying "I feel hts is scum, and she's not voting for anyone atm which is NAI, which means it makes sense if she's scum!"
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Guys don't let Holyflare argue his way out of being lynched he done this before I swayed a ton because of his im my last game this time I not letting him get away with it. Check Carol of the Bell, and Himalayas where he was up for lynch he really good at arguing his way out of being lynched.
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No that at all. That means you haven't been reading his posts at all. Hts as mafia plays very wordy but does a lot of comments and digging but never makes conclusions or real pushes or anything. Very like here. Bf just extended that point to apply to her vote which shows that exact mindset.
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On July 17 2015 01:47 LightningStrike wrote:
Guys don't let Holyflare argue his way out of being lynched he done this before I swayed a ton because of his im my last game this time I not letting him get away with it. Check Carol of the Bell, and Himalayas where he was up for lynch he really good at arguing his way out of being lynched.
Dude just get the - redacted- out of this game. You are pathetic as confirmed town. What are you doing? I don't care if I'm lynched but do you think it's acceptable for you to comment on 0 posts today? I sure don't.
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HF would you lynch ruxxar with me?
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