TL Mafia LXXI: Gaiden - Page 368

On July 17 2015 00:32 Clarity_nl wrote:
No one is sheeping LS

On July 17 2015 00:39 ruXxar wrote:


So why are you still voting for HF?!
You even said that you liked his his contributions and you had a town read on him up until now.
Why flip flop when you've been so certain all along?

All I see is you saying you want to vote HF out of spite.

On July 17 2015 00:40 Clarity_nl wrote:


Read my posts

On July 17 2015 00:44 ruXxar wrote:


So you're voting him for martyring as a policy lynch.
So you actually think he's town but you're just policy lynching him anyway?

On July 17 2015 00:45 boxerfred wrote:

I was. Are you reading?

On July 17 2015 00:45 Clarity_nl wrote:


READ. MY. POSTS.

On July 17 2015 00:51 Breshke wrote:
ruxxar man your townread on HF really gives me the heebie jeebies i cant get past it.

Also BF i have also not voted yet you ignore that because it doesnt fit your world. You see where clarity is coming from. If you pick two people to be scum of course you can find stuff to fit that picture like if i say ruxxar and hf are scum then i can justify it that ruxxar has been townreading and defending HF when i feel he has had no buisness doing so. but it doesnt work like that.

On July 16 2015 22:29 Clarity_nl wrote:
I actually think HF has been contributing useful stuff. Like I like his push on OWS and I like his reasoning for townreading oats for starters.

However I struggle to see how he martyrs, and then when he comes back he 180s on me. Like he goes from "clarity's thoughts align with mine, sheep him when I'm dead" to "clarity confirmed scum for believing in my OWS push and never wavering in his townread of me" when I did in fact waver quite a bit, I gave harkon plenty of opportunity to explain to me why he thinks HF is scum and I was going to read up on HF, however HF martyrs and suddenly I just don't give a shit. I was dreading having to go through HF's meta of games I wasn't in but I would have done it, but this is just dumb.

HF by the time you started getting milo to talk I was convinced he was scum, he had practically given up and was not trying to defend himself nor was he scumhunting. I believed in my case and all my townreads were calling him scum.

Only in the last hour or two did he start sounding like town but I think that's the easiest bit to fake "woe is me I'm so sorry guys I should have played better"

I have not been disruptive at all so you are clearly misrepresenting me.

On July 16 2015 22:32 Clarity_nl wrote:
I've been "hard townreading" HF all game but this is the first time he's called me scum for it, which is very timely as he's the one getting lynched. That and the martyring followed by coming back when it looks like he's actually getting lynched are the reasons for wanting to lynch him now.

On July 16 2015 22:41 Clarity_nl wrote:



If you had thought it made me scum you would have brought it up earlier? Not wait till you're the main wagon and then go "btw clarity scum"
I wasn't hard defending you I let people attack you as much as they wanted.

Bringing up your own meta to astonishing detail is not actually helping you. The moment you identify your own meta is the moment you can break it and then claim "look I can't be scum because X". You've brought up your own meta so often this game and you've even shown that you have read your own filter multiple times this game. I was willing to scratch that off as just having a massive head but now I think it's because you're scum trying to keep your story straight.

You just look like you're flailing now. Like you definitely could still be town (hedge hedge) but the chance of you being scum has gone up a ton.

Combine the things that I said with harkon being convinced you're scum and marv not giving a read on you when he's normally super chatty about whatever (which means he's unsure) and I'm liking this lynch.

On July 16 2015 22:47 Clarity_nl wrote:
Basically the moment it appears I "stop" townreading you you call me scum, because as scum there was no point in pushing me while I was, in your words, "hard defending you". Now that I'm voting for you it's a good time for you to 180 on me.

As town however you would have brought it up much earlier if you truly believed it made me scum, because as town you don't give a shit if someone is townreading you or not, you give a shit if they are scum. If you thought I was scum you would have brought it up, so the 180 makes no sense from a town perspective.

On July 16 2015 22:49 Clarity_nl wrote:


It's not a solid mafia read, but I'm fine with your lynch now, make of that what you will. I've given my reasons.

If you are town reread me and make damn sure you're happy with your scumread because if you're town then you are losing us the game.

On July 16 2015 22:58 Clarity_nl wrote:


This is true, but it doesn't mean anything.

And yes you are losing the game if you're town and you somehow convince people to lynch me after you.

Suddenly I've done nothing all game? I guess our reads n3 just lined up by sheer luck, seeing as you told people to sheep me after you got lynched?

On July 16 2015 23:02 Clarity_nl wrote:
You know this whole saying you're gonna afk from now on doesn't work if you come back every time after you say it?

But you know what, yes my vote on you started mainly as just anger at your martyring for no reason, I'm still kinda angry at you. So I'm gonna take a break now and reread some stuff and see if I can change my mind.

fwiw I think your 180 on me has decent reasoning, but the timing is super suspect. The fact that you're playing on my emotions more than my rational thoughts actually makes it more likely you're scum I think.

On July 17 2015 00:55 ruXxar wrote:


What about it don't you like?

On July 17 2015 01:00 Half the Sky wrote:


Do you see how this might not necessarily be alignment indicative? I can see it possible if he's scum but it's Holyflare...

On July 17 2015 01:04 Breshke wrote:
Could wos really be scum HTS? Like i get the modkill could make him not post like at all but even before that it was like meh. Why did noone push wos for mafiarollingitis wasnt he mafia with trfel in that game? Or is it because meta says he can play like this?