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On July 17 2015 00:11 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2015 00:10 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 17 2015 00:02 boxerfred wrote:
Look who didn't vote yet
rsoultin, Half the Sky
two of my scum reads yeah, absolutely not a scumtell. Yes. But since I have the picture of a scum HtS that does not do too much, doesn't go hard push on anyone, it fits the picture that she'd hold her vote for as long as possible.
Thats not the correct picture then.
Scum have no reason to hold their votes. They dont care who gets lynched as long as its not them. If its a good town, then its a bonus but no scum goes into the day hardpushing town hf.
Town however, cant decide who they want to lynch, so generally town are the ones with the later votes.
This is a pretty big generalization but in essence, voting late isnt a scumtell.
Unless you find HTS' games where she always votes late as scum and never as town.
Im pretty sure they doesnt exist though.
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On July 17 2015 00:12 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2015 00:10 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 16 2015 23:58 boxerfred wrote:On July 16 2015 23:55 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 16 2015 23:23 boxerfred wrote:
My reasoning behind voting hf was sheeping ls and the idea of high risk high reward. Not lynching him since by now i feel like there is too much new information to work with, also due to hfs posts over the day. However it he flips scum in a Situation where i unvoted him ill probably be lynched next day. So i actually Think im gonna trust and even sheep hin. Off to the voting thread it goes. I committed now, lets see it it changes anything for good. What exactly is this new information? In his defenses, several people posted a lot good shit which is something great. I feel like while we might not have the situation of "shit a scum member's being lynched better start another vote train on someone" we have a (in my world) "let's get town HF mislynched so we can then go ahead and remove the most dangerous player" So if the shit was so great, why cant you decide on a lynch? Clearly cant be that great. WHaaaaaat??? Start reading! I unvoted HF. Little later, I voted Clarity. Then I unvoted Clarity for the sake of sheeping Ruxxar.
Is your first language English?
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On July 17 2015 00:12 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2015 00:09 boxerfred wrote:On July 17 2015 00:08 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 17 2015 00:07 boxerfred wrote:On July 17 2015 00:05 Clarity_nl wrote:
Because scum are full of doubt when everyone else jumps on a single wagon, right? You sure wanna go down this thought process when you're on the HF train, right? I think HtS and rsoultin are town, so yes. If you wouldn't mind to stop asking pointless questions (I know that you think my read is plain bull shit) or point out already known things (your town reads on HtS and rsoultin), you could actually read Ruxxar's huge post and start arguing how your town read, rsoultin, is actually town and not scum. I have a hard time figuring out ruxxar's post. He's made several huge posts today but they all feel like "look at how much work I'm doing!". Like yeah, HF has done a lot, I agree. Rsoultin has done less than HF, I agree with that too. However her thoughts seem natural and they align with mine a lot. I still think you're town. I think your reasoning for things, especially in the last two pages, has been especially atrocious and I'm pointing out why but you're ignoring me and just going full steam ahead anyway.
Yet you hard town read her.
On July 16 2015 19:33 Clarity_nl wrote:
HF I kinda want to lynch you out of spite now, and the fact that I'll feel really really dumb if you're scum and I didn't lynch you. But I'm still liking your push on OWS
Decisions decisions.
Oh btw if you flip scum now I will entertain the thought that you're bussing OWS.
On July 16 2015 22:29 Clarity_nl wrote:
I actually think HF has been contributing useful stuff. Like I like his push on OWS and I like his reasoning for townreading oats for starters.
However I struggle to see how he martyrs, and then when he comes back he 180s on me. Like he goes from "clarity's thoughts align with mine, sheep him when I'm dead" to "clarity confirmed scum for believing in my OWS push and never wavering in his townread of me" when I did in fact waver quite a bit, I gave harkon plenty of opportunity to explain to me why he thinks HF is scum and I was going to read up on HF, however HF martyrs and suddenly I just don't give a shit. I was dreading having to go through HF's meta of games I wasn't in but I would have done it, but this is just dumb.
HF by the time you started getting milo to talk I was convinced he was scum, he had practically given up and was not trying to defend himself nor was he scumhunting. I believed in my case and all my townreads were calling him scum.
Only in the last hour or two did he start sounding like town but I think that's the easiest bit to fake "woe is me I'm so sorry guys I should have played better"
I have not been disruptive at all so you are clearly misrepresenting me.
So you're not even providing decent reasons to lynch HF. You're just saying "well I like him but I vote him". Then, you feel stunned due to him 180'ing you but do not even realize that I town leaned you before and now you're my top scum read? How does that not bother you, wtf? Sorry, so much inconsistency in so little time. Your whole day feels like you're trying to get HF lynched without making the impression to actually want to lynch him.
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On July 17 2015 00:15 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2015 00:12 boxerfred wrote:On July 17 2015 00:10 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 16 2015 23:58 boxerfred wrote:On July 16 2015 23:55 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 16 2015 23:23 boxerfred wrote:
My reasoning behind voting hf was sheeping ls and the idea of high risk high reward. Not lynching him since by now i feel like there is too much new information to work with, also due to hfs posts over the day. However it he flips scum in a Situation where i unvoted him ill probably be lynched next day. So i actually Think im gonna trust and even sheep hin. Off to the voting thread it goes. I committed now, lets see it it changes anything for good. What exactly is this new information? In his defenses, several people posted a lot good shit which is something great. I feel like while we might not have the situation of "shit a scum member's being lynched better start another vote train on someone" we have a (in my world) "let's get town HF mislynched so we can then go ahead and remove the most dangerous player" So if the shit was so great, why cant you decide on a lynch? Clearly cant be that great. WHaaaaaat??? Start reading! I unvoted HF. Little later, I voted Clarity. Then I unvoted Clarity for the sake of sheeping Ruxxar. Is your first language English?
No. But it simply is in the post that you quoted. I bolded it for you. Gosh.
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On July 17 2015 00:17 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2015 00:12 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 17 2015 00:09 boxerfred wrote:On July 17 2015 00:08 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 17 2015 00:07 boxerfred wrote:On July 17 2015 00:05 Clarity_nl wrote:
Because scum are full of doubt when everyone else jumps on a single wagon, right? You sure wanna go down this thought process when you're on the HF train, right? I think HtS and rsoultin are town, so yes. If you wouldn't mind to stop asking pointless questions (I know that you think my read is plain bull shit) or point out already known things (your town reads on HtS and rsoultin), you could actually read Ruxxar's huge post and start arguing how your town read, rsoultin, is actually town and not scum. I have a hard time figuring out ruxxar's post. He's made several huge posts today but they all feel like "look at how much work I'm doing!". Like yeah, HF has done a lot, I agree. Rsoultin has done less than HF, I agree with that too. However her thoughts seem natural and they align with mine a lot. I still think you're town. I think your reasoning for things, especially in the last two pages, has been especially atrocious and I'm pointing out why but you're ignoring me and just going full steam ahead anyway. Yet you hard town read her. Show nested quote +On July 16 2015 19:33 Clarity_nl wrote:
HF I kinda want to lynch you out of spite now, and the fact that I'll feel really really dumb if you're scum and I didn't lynch you. But I'm still liking your push on OWS
Decisions decisions.
Oh btw if you flip scum now I will entertain the thought that you're bussing OWS. Show nested quote +On July 16 2015 22:29 Clarity_nl wrote:
I actually think HF has been contributing useful stuff. Like I like his push on OWS and I like his reasoning for townreading oats for starters.
However I struggle to see how he martyrs, and then when he comes back he 180s on me. Like he goes from "clarity's thoughts align with mine, sheep him when I'm dead" to "clarity confirmed scum for believing in my OWS push and never wavering in his townread of me" when I did in fact waver quite a bit, I gave harkon plenty of opportunity to explain to me why he thinks HF is scum and I was going to read up on HF, however HF martyrs and suddenly I just don't give a shit. I was dreading having to go through HF's meta of games I wasn't in but I would have done it, but this is just dumb.
HF by the time you started getting milo to talk I was convinced he was scum, he had practically given up and was not trying to defend himself nor was he scumhunting. I believed in my case and all my townreads were calling him scum.
Only in the last hour or two did he start sounding like town but I think that's the easiest bit to fake "woe is me I'm so sorry guys I should have played better"
I have not been disruptive at all so you are clearly misrepresenting me. So you're not even providing decent reasons to lynch HF. You're just saying "well I like him but I vote him". Then, you feel stunned due to him 180'ing you but do not even realize that I town leaned you before and now you're my top scum read? How does that not bother you, wtf? Sorry, so much inconsistency in so little time. Your whole day feels like you're trying to get HF lynched without making the impression to actually want to lynch him.
HF is a better player than you. Also you have no incentive to change your read, he does.
Also right after the phrase you bolded I explained my townread on rsoultin.
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Boxer's contributions on the last two pages feel really towny to me. Any reason you're being a pain in the ass to him for no reason, Oats? He's not your scumread.
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On July 17 2015 00:14 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2015 00:11 boxerfred wrote:On July 17 2015 00:10 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 17 2015 00:02 boxerfred wrote:
Look who didn't vote yet
rsoultin, Half the Sky
two of my scum reads yeah, absolutely not a scumtell. Yes. But since I have the picture of a scum HtS that does not do too much, doesn't go hard push on anyone, it fits the picture that she'd hold her vote for as long as possible. Thats not the correct picture then. Scum have no reason to hold their votes. They dont care who gets lynched as long as its not them. If its a good town, then its a bonus but no scum goes into the day hardpushing town hf. Town however, cant decide who they want to lynch, so generally town are the ones with the later votes. This is a pretty big generalization but in essence, voting late isnt a scumtell. Unless you find HTS' games where she always votes late as scum and never as town. Im pretty sure they doesnt exist though.
Not saying it's a scumtell, I repeat. My picture is not wrong. Saying it's wrong does not make it wrong. I think it's right. Start arguing and stop ranting over how something is a scumtell or not if bringing that up wasn't even meant like "it's a scumtell" but more like "look, it fits the fucking picture. it's a small detail in a huge puzzle".
I guess I'm way down in OMGUS land now so bye.
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tl;dr Read the entire thing, not just what you bolded. Your reads are based on ridiculous things that are NAI at best.
I'm not looking to antagonize you, but bad reasons followed by stubbornness is super annoying.
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On July 17 2015 00:13 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2015 00:10 boxerfred wrote:On July 17 2015 00:08 Clarity_nl wrote:
Like even if you're right and HtS is scum (I don't think you are) then it's not because she hasn't voted yet. It's an absurd reason. I am not saying that I think she's scum for that reason. It just fits the picture that I have, that's it. Your picking the worst things to disprove them, do you know that? Also how can you so hardcore townread rsoultin when Ruxxar just made a very informative post on her? This is absurd. Yeah I can say "in my world where X and Y are scum this all fits" and then point at a ton of NAI things. It just doesn't mean anything. Point out why you DO think they're scum, rather than why a bunch of things fit. I literally have no idea why you think HtS is scum
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On July 17 2015 00:19 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2015 00:17 boxerfred wrote:On July 17 2015 00:12 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 17 2015 00:09 boxerfred wrote:On July 17 2015 00:08 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 17 2015 00:07 boxerfred wrote:On July 17 2015 00:05 Clarity_nl wrote:
Because scum are full of doubt when everyone else jumps on a single wagon, right? You sure wanna go down this thought process when you're on the HF train, right? I think HtS and rsoultin are town, so yes. If you wouldn't mind to stop asking pointless questions (I know that you think my read is plain bull shit) or point out already known things (your town reads on HtS and rsoultin), you could actually read Ruxxar's huge post and start arguing how your town read, rsoultin, is actually town and not scum. I have a hard time figuring out ruxxar's post. He's made several huge posts today but they all feel like "look at how much work I'm doing!". Like yeah, HF has done a lot, I agree. Rsoultin has done less than HF, I agree with that too. However her thoughts seem natural and they align with mine a lot. I still think you're town. I think your reasoning for things, especially in the last two pages, has been especially atrocious and I'm pointing out why but you're ignoring me and just going full steam ahead anyway. Yet you hard town read her. On July 16 2015 19:33 Clarity_nl wrote:
HF I kinda want to lynch you out of spite now, and the fact that I'll feel really really dumb if you're scum and I didn't lynch you. But I'm still liking your push on OWS
Decisions decisions.
Oh btw if you flip scum now I will entertain the thought that you're bussing OWS. On July 16 2015 22:29 Clarity_nl wrote:
I actually think HF has been contributing useful stuff. Like I like his push on OWS and I like his reasoning for townreading oats for starters.
However I struggle to see how he martyrs, and then when he comes back he 180s on me. Like he goes from "clarity's thoughts align with mine, sheep him when I'm dead" to "clarity confirmed scum for believing in my OWS push and never wavering in his townread of me" when I did in fact waver quite a bit, I gave harkon plenty of opportunity to explain to me why he thinks HF is scum and I was going to read up on HF, however HF martyrs and suddenly I just don't give a shit. I was dreading having to go through HF's meta of games I wasn't in but I would have done it, but this is just dumb.
HF by the time you started getting milo to talk I was convinced he was scum, he had practically given up and was not trying to defend himself nor was he scumhunting. I believed in my case and all my townreads were calling him scum.
Only in the last hour or two did he start sounding like town but I think that's the easiest bit to fake "woe is me I'm so sorry guys I should have played better"
I have not been disruptive at all so you are clearly misrepresenting me. So you're not even providing decent reasons to lynch HF. You're just saying "well I like him but I vote him". Then, you feel stunned due to him 180'ing you but do not even realize that I town leaned you before and now you're my top scum read? How does that not bother you, wtf? Sorry, so much inconsistency in so little time. Your whole day feels like you're trying to get HF lynched without making the impression to actually want to lynch him. HF is a better player than you. Also you have no incentive to change your read, he does. Also right after the phrase you bolded I explained my townread on rsoultin.
Your explanation on the rsoultin townread is simply bad. HF pointed that out. Ruxxar's post points it out. So you're still saying "rsoultin thinks the same stuff as I do so she's town"? All I see is a scum tag team pushing a HF mislynch.
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On July 17 2015 00:22 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2015 00:19 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 17 2015 00:17 boxerfred wrote:On July 17 2015 00:12 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 17 2015 00:09 boxerfred wrote:On July 17 2015 00:08 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 17 2015 00:07 boxerfred wrote:On July 17 2015 00:05 Clarity_nl wrote:
Because scum are full of doubt when everyone else jumps on a single wagon, right? You sure wanna go down this thought process when you're on the HF train, right? I think HtS and rsoultin are town, so yes. If you wouldn't mind to stop asking pointless questions (I know that you think my read is plain bull shit) or point out already known things (your town reads on HtS and rsoultin), you could actually read Ruxxar's huge post and start arguing how your town read, rsoultin, is actually town and not scum. I have a hard time figuring out ruxxar's post. He's made several huge posts today but they all feel like "look at how much work I'm doing!". Like yeah, HF has done a lot, I agree. Rsoultin has done less than HF, I agree with that too. However her thoughts seem natural and they align with mine a lot. I still think you're town. I think your reasoning for things, especially in the last two pages, has been especially atrocious and I'm pointing out why but you're ignoring me and just going full steam ahead anyway. Yet you hard town read her. On July 16 2015 19:33 Clarity_nl wrote:
HF I kinda want to lynch you out of spite now, and the fact that I'll feel really really dumb if you're scum and I didn't lynch you. But I'm still liking your push on OWS
Decisions decisions.
Oh btw if you flip scum now I will entertain the thought that you're bussing OWS. On July 16 2015 22:29 Clarity_nl wrote:
I actually think HF has been contributing useful stuff. Like I like his push on OWS and I like his reasoning for townreading oats for starters.
However I struggle to see how he martyrs, and then when he comes back he 180s on me. Like he goes from "clarity's thoughts align with mine, sheep him when I'm dead" to "clarity confirmed scum for believing in my OWS push and never wavering in his townread of me" when I did in fact waver quite a bit, I gave harkon plenty of opportunity to explain to me why he thinks HF is scum and I was going to read up on HF, however HF martyrs and suddenly I just don't give a shit. I was dreading having to go through HF's meta of games I wasn't in but I would have done it, but this is just dumb.
HF by the time you started getting milo to talk I was convinced he was scum, he had practically given up and was not trying to defend himself nor was he scumhunting. I believed in my case and all my townreads were calling him scum.
Only in the last hour or two did he start sounding like town but I think that's the easiest bit to fake "woe is me I'm so sorry guys I should have played better"
I have not been disruptive at all so you are clearly misrepresenting me. So you're not even providing decent reasons to lynch HF. You're just saying "well I like him but I vote him". Then, you feel stunned due to him 180'ing you but do not even realize that I town leaned you before and now you're my top scum read? How does that not bother you, wtf? Sorry, so much inconsistency in so little time. Your whole day feels like you're trying to get HF lynched without making the impression to actually want to lynch him. HF is a better player than you. Also you have no incentive to change your read, he does. Also right after the phrase you bolded I explained my townread on rsoultin. Your explanation on the rsoultin townread is simply bad. HF pointed that out. Ruxxar's post points it out. So you're still saying "rsoultin thinks the same stuff as I do so she's town"? All I see is a scum tag team pushing a HF mislynch.
omg you caught us gj
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On July 17 2015 00:22 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2015 00:13 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 17 2015 00:10 boxerfred wrote:On July 17 2015 00:08 Clarity_nl wrote:
Like even if you're right and HtS is scum (I don't think you are) then it's not because she hasn't voted yet. It's an absurd reason. I am not saying that I think she's scum for that reason. It just fits the picture that I have, that's it. Your picking the worst things to disprove them, do you know that? Also how can you so hardcore townread rsoultin when Ruxxar just made a very informative post on her? This is absurd. Yeah I can say "in my world where X and Y are scum this all fits" and then point at a ton of NAI things. It just doesn't mean anything. Point out why you DO think they're scum, rather than why a bunch of things fit. I literally have no idea why you think HtS is scum
My world is my impression of the game. My thoughts. So of course I try to find things that fit that picture. All you do is saying "oh you're wrong". I don't know how you can have no idea why I think that HtS is scum if you have read the thread.
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On July 17 2015 00:24 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2015 00:22 boxerfred wrote:On July 17 2015 00:19 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 17 2015 00:17 boxerfred wrote:On July 17 2015 00:12 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 17 2015 00:09 boxerfred wrote:On July 17 2015 00:08 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 17 2015 00:07 boxerfred wrote:On July 17 2015 00:05 Clarity_nl wrote:
Because scum are full of doubt when everyone else jumps on a single wagon, right? You sure wanna go down this thought process when you're on the HF train, right? I think HtS and rsoultin are town, so yes. If you wouldn't mind to stop asking pointless questions (I know that you think my read is plain bull shit) or point out already known things (your town reads on HtS and rsoultin), you could actually read Ruxxar's huge post and start arguing how your town read, rsoultin, is actually town and not scum. I have a hard time figuring out ruxxar's post. He's made several huge posts today but they all feel like "look at how much work I'm doing!". Like yeah, HF has done a lot, I agree. Rsoultin has done less than HF, I agree with that too. However her thoughts seem natural and they align with mine a lot. I still think you're town. I think your reasoning for things, especially in the last two pages, has been especially atrocious and I'm pointing out why but you're ignoring me and just going full steam ahead anyway. Yet you hard town read her. On July 16 2015 19:33 Clarity_nl wrote:
HF I kinda want to lynch you out of spite now, and the fact that I'll feel really really dumb if you're scum and I didn't lynch you. But I'm still liking your push on OWS
Decisions decisions.
Oh btw if you flip scum now I will entertain the thought that you're bussing OWS. On July 16 2015 22:29 Clarity_nl wrote:
I actually think HF has been contributing useful stuff. Like I like his push on OWS and I like his reasoning for townreading oats for starters.
However I struggle to see how he martyrs, and then when he comes back he 180s on me. Like he goes from "clarity's thoughts align with mine, sheep him when I'm dead" to "clarity confirmed scum for believing in my OWS push and never wavering in his townread of me" when I did in fact waver quite a bit, I gave harkon plenty of opportunity to explain to me why he thinks HF is scum and I was going to read up on HF, however HF martyrs and suddenly I just don't give a shit. I was dreading having to go through HF's meta of games I wasn't in but I would have done it, but this is just dumb.
HF by the time you started getting milo to talk I was convinced he was scum, he had practically given up and was not trying to defend himself nor was he scumhunting. I believed in my case and all my townreads were calling him scum.
Only in the last hour or two did he start sounding like town but I think that's the easiest bit to fake "woe is me I'm so sorry guys I should have played better"
I have not been disruptive at all so you are clearly misrepresenting me. So you're not even providing decent reasons to lynch HF. You're just saying "well I like him but I vote him". Then, you feel stunned due to him 180'ing you but do not even realize that I town leaned you before and now you're my top scum read? How does that not bother you, wtf? Sorry, so much inconsistency in so little time. Your whole day feels like you're trying to get HF lynched without making the impression to actually want to lynch him. HF is a better player than you. Also you have no incentive to change your read, he does. Also right after the phrase you bolded I explained my townread on rsoultin. Your explanation on the rsoultin townread is simply bad. HF pointed that out. Ruxxar's post points it out. So you're still saying "rsoultin thinks the same stuff as I do so she's town"? All I see is a scum tag team pushing a HF mislynch. omg you caught us gj
Cool, still dodging to actually have an opinion on Ruxxar's post.
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On July 17 2015 00:24 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2015 00:22 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 17 2015 00:13 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 17 2015 00:10 boxerfred wrote:On July 17 2015 00:08 Clarity_nl wrote:
Like even if you're right and HtS is scum (I don't think you are) then it's not because she hasn't voted yet. It's an absurd reason. I am not saying that I think she's scum for that reason. It just fits the picture that I have, that's it. Your picking the worst things to disprove them, do you know that? Also how can you so hardcore townread rsoultin when Ruxxar just made a very informative post on her? This is absurd. Yeah I can say "in my world where X and Y are scum this all fits" and then point at a ton of NAI things. It just doesn't mean anything. Point out why you DO think they're scum, rather than why a bunch of things fit. I literally have no idea why you think HtS is scum My world is my impression of the game. My thoughts. So of course I try to find things that fit that picture. All you do is saying "oh you're wrong". I don't know how you can have no idea why I think that HtS is scum if you have read the thread.
Because I've generally not put much weight behind what you've been saying. As always answering questions is super hard apparently so fine, this conversation is going nowhere.
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On July 17 2015 00:25 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2015 00:24 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 17 2015 00:22 boxerfred wrote:On July 17 2015 00:19 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 17 2015 00:17 boxerfred wrote:On July 17 2015 00:12 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 17 2015 00:09 boxerfred wrote:On July 17 2015 00:08 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 17 2015 00:07 boxerfred wrote:On July 17 2015 00:05 Clarity_nl wrote:
Because scum are full of doubt when everyone else jumps on a single wagon, right? You sure wanna go down this thought process when you're on the HF train, right? I think HtS and rsoultin are town, so yes. If you wouldn't mind to stop asking pointless questions (I know that you think my read is plain bull shit) or point out already known things (your town reads on HtS and rsoultin), you could actually read Ruxxar's huge post and start arguing how your town read, rsoultin, is actually town and not scum. I have a hard time figuring out ruxxar's post. He's made several huge posts today but they all feel like "look at how much work I'm doing!". Like yeah, HF has done a lot, I agree. Rsoultin has done less than HF, I agree with that too. However her thoughts seem natural and they align with mine a lot. I still think you're town. I think your reasoning for things, especially in the last two pages, has been especially atrocious and I'm pointing out why but you're ignoring me and just going full steam ahead anyway. Yet you hard town read her. On July 16 2015 19:33 Clarity_nl wrote:
HF I kinda want to lynch you out of spite now, and the fact that I'll feel really really dumb if you're scum and I didn't lynch you. But I'm still liking your push on OWS
Decisions decisions.
Oh btw if you flip scum now I will entertain the thought that you're bussing OWS. On July 16 2015 22:29 Clarity_nl wrote:
I actually think HF has been contributing useful stuff. Like I like his push on OWS and I like his reasoning for townreading oats for starters.
However I struggle to see how he martyrs, and then when he comes back he 180s on me. Like he goes from "clarity's thoughts align with mine, sheep him when I'm dead" to "clarity confirmed scum for believing in my OWS push and never wavering in his townread of me" when I did in fact waver quite a bit, I gave harkon plenty of opportunity to explain to me why he thinks HF is scum and I was going to read up on HF, however HF martyrs and suddenly I just don't give a shit. I was dreading having to go through HF's meta of games I wasn't in but I would have done it, but this is just dumb.
HF by the time you started getting milo to talk I was convinced he was scum, he had practically given up and was not trying to defend himself nor was he scumhunting. I believed in my case and all my townreads were calling him scum.
Only in the last hour or two did he start sounding like town but I think that's the easiest bit to fake "woe is me I'm so sorry guys I should have played better"
I have not been disruptive at all so you are clearly misrepresenting me. So you're not even providing decent reasons to lynch HF. You're just saying "well I like him but I vote him". Then, you feel stunned due to him 180'ing you but do not even realize that I town leaned you before and now you're my top scum read? How does that not bother you, wtf? Sorry, so much inconsistency in so little time. Your whole day feels like you're trying to get HF lynched without making the impression to actually want to lynch him. HF is a better player than you. Also you have no incentive to change your read, he does. Also right after the phrase you bolded I explained my townread on rsoultin. Your explanation on the rsoultin townread is simply bad. HF pointed that out. Ruxxar's post points it out. So you're still saying "rsoultin thinks the same stuff as I do so she's town"? All I see is a scum tag team pushing a HF mislynch. omg you caught us gj Cool, still dodging to actually have an opinion on Ruxxar's post.
On July 17 2015 00:12 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2015 00:09 boxerfred wrote:On July 17 2015 00:08 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 17 2015 00:07 boxerfred wrote:On July 17 2015 00:05 Clarity_nl wrote:
Because scum are full of doubt when everyone else jumps on a single wagon, right? You sure wanna go down this thought process when you're on the HF train, right? I think HtS and rsoultin are town, so yes. If you wouldn't mind to stop asking pointless questions (I know that you think my read is plain bull shit) or point out already known things (your town reads on HtS and rsoultin), you could actually read Ruxxar's huge post and start arguing how your town read, rsoultin, is actually town and not scum. I have a hard time figuring out ruxxar's post. He's made several huge posts today but they all feel like "look at how much work I'm doing!". Like yeah, HF has done a lot, I agree. Rsoultin has done less than HF, I agree with that too. However her thoughts seem natural and they align with mine a lot. I still think you're town. I think your reasoning for things, especially in the last two pages, has been especially atrocious and I'm pointing out why but you're ignoring me and just going full steam ahead anyway.
Just fuck off dude
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It's so, so easy for scum to go like "look our confirmed town said we must lynch HF, let's do it guys!!!", and then avoid any flak for pushing a mis-lynch on him.
No offense to LS, but sheeping confirmed town just because they're town and don't actually have any serious reason for their reads is really dumb.
If you objectively study the game, there's no way you can come to the conclusion that rsoultins contributions are more pro-town than HF.
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On July 17 2015 00:20 Vivax wrote:
Boxer's contributions on the last two pages feel really towny to me. Any reason you're being a pain in the ass to him for no reason, Oats? He's not your scumread.
He doesnt want to lynch HF for super nebulous reasons.
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On July 17 2015 00:20 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2015 00:14 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 17 2015 00:11 boxerfred wrote:On July 17 2015 00:10 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 17 2015 00:02 boxerfred wrote:
Look who didn't vote yet
rsoultin, Half the Sky
two of my scum reads yeah, absolutely not a scumtell. Yes. But since I have the picture of a scum HtS that does not do too much, doesn't go hard push on anyone, it fits the picture that she'd hold her vote for as long as possible. Thats not the correct picture then. Scum have no reason to hold their votes. They dont care who gets lynched as long as its not them. If its a good town, then its a bonus but no scum goes into the day hardpushing town hf. Town however, cant decide who they want to lynch, so generally town are the ones with the later votes. This is a pretty big generalization but in essence, voting late isnt a scumtell. Unless you find HTS' games where she always votes late as scum and never as town. Im pretty sure they doesnt exist though. Not saying it's a scumtell, I repeat. My picture is not wrong. Saying it's wrong does not make it wrong. I think it's right. Start arguing and stop ranting over how something is a scumtell or not if bringing that up wasn't even meant like "it's a scumtell" but more like "look, it fits the fucking picture. it's a small detail in a huge puzzle". I guess I'm way down in OMGUS land now so bye.
I just dont understand this "picture".
Everyone is telling you that its not a scumtell if people vote late, but through absolute no evidence besides your own feelings, you think that scum HTS does it.
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On July 17 2015 00:32 ruXxar wrote:
It's so, so easy for scum to go like "look our confirmed town said we must lynch HF, let's do it guys!!!", and then avoid any flak for pushing a mis-lynch on him.
No offense to LS, but sheeping confirmed town just because they're town and don't actually have any serious reason for their reads is really dumb.
If you objectively study the game, there's no way you can come to the conclusion that rsoultins contributions are more pro-town than HF.
Unfortunately thats not how the game works.
Pro town posters can be scum.
How many mafia have we lynched because of Holyflare?
0.
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