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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 16 2015 19:42 GMT
#7461
On July 17 2015 04:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2015 04:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 17 2015 04:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Vivax, can you do something towny for me?
Pretty please?

Vivax is pretty town from the last couple pages alone. I think.
Mirrored my thoughts on the lynch exactly.


That doesn't really make me feel much better considering you've been inactive and apathetic all game.
Why should I trust you?

You shouldn't.
Told you guys to vig me ages ago.
Out for a while.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 16 2015 19:42 GMT
#7462
On July 17 2015 04:41 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2015 04:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 17 2015 04:34 Holyflare wrote:
On July 17 2015 04:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Hf I'm perfectly willing to work with you but constantly accusing me over things that don't make sense isn't going to help you. I literally cannot be fucked dealing with your aggression. Even if you think you're just "being straightforward" you have no idea how unbelievably annoying it is dealing with.


i haven't said anything about you for like 10 pages why are you so whiney? that's just a copy/paste of what i wrote earlier because you were being a douche and not responding to a word i wrote?

answer my questions please, why is VA mafia for playing like VA does in every game and who were your scum reads before me and VA


VA playing like VA doesn't make him not mafia; it just means he's VA. Why should I spare him a lynch if there are a number of active people trying to figure things out and some antagonistic waste of space is sitting in the corner just being useless? I'd be perfectly willing to consolidate on him over you just for sheer funsies/take-out-the-trash factor; regardless of his flip, he's basically a nonentity and should die just for playing the way he's playing. You might think he's being reasonable because he's not one of the people pushing you, but I can't really care less about him and I'd prefer him gone.

As for other scumreads, I've been rotating between inactives/skirt-by-the-wayside players like Vivax/WoS so there's not really a whole lot going on there. I could kill any of those.


So he's not an actual scum read lol? Why are all of your town reads based on activity when that is a bad metric to read all of those players? Why not use that metric for me?


Because it doesn't apply to you.
Ever.
Retired.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2015 19:43 GMT
#7463
On July 17 2015 04:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2015 04:41 Holyflare wrote:
On July 17 2015 04:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 17 2015 04:34 Holyflare wrote:
On July 17 2015 04:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Hf I'm perfectly willing to work with you but constantly accusing me over things that don't make sense isn't going to help you. I literally cannot be fucked dealing with your aggression. Even if you think you're just "being straightforward" you have no idea how unbelievably annoying it is dealing with.


i haven't said anything about you for like 10 pages why are you so whiney? that's just a copy/paste of what i wrote earlier because you were being a douche and not responding to a word i wrote?

answer my questions please, why is VA mafia for playing like VA does in every game and who were your scum reads before me and VA


VA playing like VA doesn't make him not mafia; it just means he's VA. Why should I spare him a lynch if there are a number of active people trying to figure things out and some antagonistic waste of space is sitting in the corner just being useless? I'd be perfectly willing to consolidate on him over you just for sheer funsies/take-out-the-trash factor; regardless of his flip, he's basically a nonentity and should die just for playing the way he's playing. You might think he's being reasonable because he's not one of the people pushing you, but I can't really care less about him and I'd prefer him gone.

As for other scumreads, I've been rotating between inactives/skirt-by-the-wayside players like Vivax/WoS so there's not really a whole lot going on there. I could kill any of those.


So he's not an actual scum read lol? Why are all of your town reads based on activity when that is a bad metric to read all of those players? Why not use that metric for me?


Because it doesn't apply to you.
Ever.


just like it doesn't ever apply to rsoultin and to an extent ruxxar too
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 16 2015 19:44 GMT
#7464
Here's something I need to say:
When town decides to just train onto someone it means that either they're lynching a townie or someone is bussing real hard.

Just look at the votes right now.

HF is at 9 votes. If he was mafia and his mafia partners are bussing him, they could easily switch off to another target to guarantee a no-lynch.
Since everyone seems dead-set on lynching HF, it pretty much points to this being 1 of 2 options:

Option 1)

HF is mafia together with 2 of these people:

EBH
Boxerfred
Breshke

Option 2)

HF is town and mafia + town are voting on him.

I have a townlean on boxerfred and slight townlean on EBH.
I know I'm town, so the likelyhood of there being mafia in the vote on HF right now is really high.

I need you guys to think about this, and think real hard.

- If HF flips scum, then it's almost guaranteed that the mafia are among the people not voting on him.
- If HF flips town, then it's almost guaranteed that the mafia are voting on him right now.

I don't see a world where mafia bus HF here.
If HF flips scum you'll find the mafia among these people:

EBH
BF
Breshke

If he flips town, then mafia are voting on him right now.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
July 16 2015 19:46 GMT
#7465
I'm willing to scrap Ruxxar, Obi and BF as mafia for now, feeling like rso disappeared from the spotlight completely.

Rereading Wave I also have no way of getting a clue on him, but I think what I said earlier about Kelsier and mafia being dicks to town are mafia being dicks to their team was pretty spot on and since WoS is being a dick I'll actually unvote this guy too.

So for me EBH, Clarity and Trfel are good choices. HTS and rso I need to digest first, didn't really read them so far.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2015 19:46 GMT
#7466
zzzz stop making me post just lynch me and sheep me
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2015 19:47 GMT
#7467
like if i'm alive for more cycles people are just going to bitch about me some more anyway
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 16 2015 19:47 GMT
#7468
I'm happy with a switch to ruxxar even though it's gonna suck to figure out HF properly afterwards.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2015 19:47 GMT
#7469
obi what happened to your clarity mafia read and why was it not strengthened by him hard defending me against all the evidence?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2015 19:48 GMT
#7470
On July 17 2015 04:47 Clarity_nl wrote:
I'm happy with a switch to ruxxar even though it's gonna suck to figure out HF properly afterwards.


no you mafia read me you lynch me, there is no getting out of it now
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 16 2015 19:48 GMT
#7471
On July 17 2015 04:43 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2015 04:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 17 2015 04:41 Holyflare wrote:
On July 17 2015 04:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 17 2015 04:34 Holyflare wrote:
On July 17 2015 04:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Hf I'm perfectly willing to work with you but constantly accusing me over things that don't make sense isn't going to help you. I literally cannot be fucked dealing with your aggression. Even if you think you're just "being straightforward" you have no idea how unbelievably annoying it is dealing with.


i haven't said anything about you for like 10 pages why are you so whiney? that's just a copy/paste of what i wrote earlier because you were being a douche and not responding to a word i wrote?

answer my questions please, why is VA mafia for playing like VA does in every game and who were your scum reads before me and VA


VA playing like VA doesn't make him not mafia; it just means he's VA. Why should I spare him a lynch if there are a number of active people trying to figure things out and some antagonistic waste of space is sitting in the corner just being useless? I'd be perfectly willing to consolidate on him over you just for sheer funsies/take-out-the-trash factor; regardless of his flip, he's basically a nonentity and should die just for playing the way he's playing. You might think he's being reasonable because he's not one of the people pushing you, but I can't really care less about him and I'd prefer him gone.

As for other scumreads, I've been rotating between inactives/skirt-by-the-wayside players like Vivax/WoS so there's not really a whole lot going on there. I could kill any of those.


So he's not an actual scum read lol? Why are all of your town reads based on activity when that is a bad metric to read all of those players? Why not use that metric for me?


Because it doesn't apply to you.
Ever.


just like it doesn't ever apply to rsoultin and to an extent ruxxar too


I've never seen rso play an active scumgame of this caliber. Ever.
Ruxx is one of my weaker townreads but I'm having a hard time justifying voting him in any way, so I don't see why I should.
Retired.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
July 16 2015 19:48 GMT
#7472
HF did you talk about why Trfel is supposed to be town earlier so I can go and start drowning in your massive filter looking for it?
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 16 2015 19:48 GMT
#7473
On July 17 2015 04:48 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2015 04:47 Clarity_nl wrote:
I'm happy with a switch to ruxxar even though it's gonna suck to figure out HF properly afterwards.


no you mafia read me you lynch me, there is no getting out of it now


Like why would you do this as town, yo?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 16 2015 19:49 GMT
#7474
On July 17 2015 04:48 Vivax wrote:
HF did you talk about why Trfel is supposed to be town earlier so I can go and start drowning in your massive filter looking for it?


trfel has some stuff in a spoiler that's borderline DMA
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 16 2015 19:49 GMT
#7475
On July 17 2015 04:47 Holyflare wrote:
obi what happened to your clarity mafia read and why was it not strengthened by him hard defending me against all the evidence?


I don't really think this is true. Jat yelled at him and he yielded.
Also, hard defending someone I think is scummy doesn't necessarily make him scummy.
Retired.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2015 19:51 GMT
#7476
On July 17 2015 04:48 Vivax wrote:
HF did you talk about why Trfel is supposed to be town earlier so I can go and start drowning in your massive filter looking for it?


Well you hated me day 1 for dropping him and I dropped it because of that bitchy post he made where he said he plays like this before or whatever and made a case defending his play or some shit, basically DMA and then he did the same thing last cycle too about his rl problems or whatever so a bit of DMA there and his thought processes this cycle haven't been particularly bad and he seems a bit lost which i like
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2015 19:52 GMT
#7477
On July 17 2015 04:48 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2015 04:48 Holyflare wrote:
On July 17 2015 04:47 Clarity_nl wrote:
I'm happy with a switch to ruxxar even though it's gonna suck to figure out HF properly afterwards.


no you mafia read me you lynch me, there is no getting out of it now


Like why would you do this as town, yo?


so you can stick to your policy/fake mafia read you made, duh? there's no backing out now
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22406 Posts
July 16 2015 19:52 GMT
#7478
On July 17 2015 04:49 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2015 04:48 Vivax wrote:
HF did you talk about why Trfel is supposed to be town earlier so I can go and start drowning in your massive filter looking for it?


trfel has some stuff in a spoiler that's borderline DMA


Dunno what DMA means, but the stuff in spoilers is indeed very voluminous. I'm fine with scrapping Trfel today then.

Let's kill VA then?

##Unvote
##Vote EBH
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 16 2015 19:52 GMT
#7479
Uh.
I don't know what DMA is.
._.
Retired.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 16 2015 19:52 GMT
#7480
On July 17 2015 04:52 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2015 04:48 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 17 2015 04:48 Holyflare wrote:
On July 17 2015 04:47 Clarity_nl wrote:
I'm happy with a switch to ruxxar even though it's gonna suck to figure out HF properly afterwards.


no you mafia read me you lynch me, there is no getting out of it now


Like why would you do this as town, yo?


so you can stick to your policy/fake mafia read you made, duh? there's no backing out now


No seriously you advocate this whole be rational thing and then as town you're yelling to lynch you over ruxxar?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
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