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On July 15 2015 05:51 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2015 05:47 Holyflare wrote:On July 15 2015 05:44 Trfel wrote:
Holyflare, where you at a computer (and thus playing to the best of your ability) for Day 1? i don't remember, when did the game start? On the fifth. Basically, I'm reading the thread much more carefully than before, and it's going slowly. To be completely honest, I'm estimating that if I keep going at this rate, I'll finish the thread at about the same time the game ends (assuming we get at least one more scum lynch). So if I need to wait to finish reading the thread to make serious reads, I will never be able to do so. As far as reading you on a portion of the game goes, is Day 1 a fair portion of the game to use?
yeh and n1 although afk'd much of n1 onwards
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Oh and also...
Holyflare, what do you think about the out-of-game excuses I made in that one post? Do you think that it makes me town?
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i already said i thought your out of game excuses day 1 made you towny before you called me scum repeatedly for doing things i do in my town games
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I don't care what you think a good player does.
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lol jat you might be mad that such a great entity such as myself dislikes your style of play but that doesn't excuse you from actively trying to throw the game by refusing to participate with that player because you're in tears and stubborn
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Looks to me like you are the one in tears if you are this sad about my read on you or how I treat you bro.
There are only 2 possibilities:
1) You are playing the worst and most destructive towngame of your TL mafia life.
2) You are mafia.
Everyone may decide for himself.
While they are doing so feel free to keep trying to get me to modkill myself - it won't happen.
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HF gonna be modkilled if that goes on. lots of ad hom.
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On July 15 2015 05:59 boxerfred wrote:
HF gonna be modkilled if that goes on. lots of ad hom.
whenever you decide that it's best to post about someone that isn't me, I would like to know!
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On July 15 2015 06:00 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2015 05:59 boxerfred wrote:
HF gonna be modkilled if that goes on. lots of ad hom. whenever you decide that it's best to post about someone that isn't me, I would like to know!
when you're dead I guess 
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On July 15 2015 05:22 Harkon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2015 00:09 Holyflare wrote:
I said ows/oats because it was lazy poe but obi actually being serious is so out of character that he's probably mafia. Oats is probably town for not nking or rbing geript after the whole tmi shit and that whole argument was towny anyway for thinkint along those lines.
This is a very bad read and HF knows better. No matter what Obis alignment is he has been serious as town before and it is absolutely not out of character for him- Show nested quote +On July 15 2015 00:09 Holyflare wrote:
VA (and expert smurf hunter me says it's va) is probably mafia because he dislikes killing me, a jat shot is so shit in any game that it must be because jat was hinting at being blue and va likes hunting blues.
Ruxxar, you watching? Needless shitflinging once again. Not to mention that HF has killed me as scum multiple times and I basically always get shot if I am town. Show nested quote +On July 15 2015 00:14 Clarity_nl wrote:
From your perspective, is there anyone who as scum think they can keep you alive and then try to mislynch you/get you shot by town? There is noone who would keep HF alive because he thinks he can mislynch him. Show nested quote +On July 15 2015 03:23 Holyflare wrote:
lol @ obi criticism of VA not doing anything, that's just flat out hilarious and major ++++++ scum points
Further shitflinging. Very productive. Show nested quote +On July 15 2015 03:34 Holyflare wrote:Like seriously this is the most fake push I've ever seen someone do. Not only is VA a CHRONIC lurker and Obi absolutely knows that to be the case but this post: On July 15 2015 03:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Honestly if you get lynched at this point then you have nobody but yourself to blame. We've given you plenty of opportunities to try to make sense of things and all you do is come up with excuses to not explain things or not post.
Maybe I'm actually mafia and your meta case will break the entire game open.
Maybe I'm actually town and finding the people that agree with a maybe weak case would expose them as mafia.
Maybe you can bring real insight into the game, despite your case.
You're literally not doing any of that and I'm tired of trying to probe you for even the most basic of explanations. I'm voting you tomorrow unless you can produce SOMETHING that makes me think better of you. just screams that obi thinks VA is actually town??? Everything he says is mafia indicative but it's phrased in such an "i know you're town so do something or i vote you" kind of way it's ridiculous Complete and utter bullshit. It is normal to talk to people like they are town like this and HF knows it. Show nested quote +On July 15 2015 04:27 Holyflare wrote:On July 15 2015 04:26 ruXxar wrote:
Well he seems dead-set on shooting you so there's that :/.
I don't feel good about it but in a way it sort of clears up things.
LS said that he's fairly confident there's 1 mafia between you and rsoul, so if you flip green then we're probably going to lynch rsoul I hope. if you believe that ls gave obiwanshinobi his gun then you might actually be mafia Absolutely nonsensical statement. Show nested quote +On July 15 2015 05:07 Holyflare wrote:On July 15 2015 05:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On July 15 2015 05:03 Holyflare wrote:On July 15 2015 05:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On July 15 2015 05:00 Holyflare wrote:
man you guys calling the guy giving the TOWN COP a chance scummy while everyone else did shit all and afk'd
:D :D :D :D :D
get gud guys I can be reasonable but you throwing scum at me for lame reasons (like tmi) is not going to work. If I'm not mafia, who is? i don't see how that's a lame argument at all, your filter is littered with defences of people multiple times at points where i don't think it was apt to defend people It is lame and you know it. I hard defend people literally ALL THE TIME in yet now, in THIS game, it's scummy, because ??? how do i know that? i don't read your posts ever because they are largely useless 1 liners that appear randomly at times i don't care about and just poe a team around you, this time you've been poe'd into the scum team and looking at your posts they seem largely unintuitive i've also already said clarity's list is largely interchangeable with his null reads too so there's that which is quite apparent since it was like what? 2 posts ago? then there's the fact you're far far far too aggressive to people scum reading you for no reason whatsoever, it's a colossal overreaction on every account. Further needless shitflinging while HF knows that Obi harddefends people as town all the time. HF is probably mafia.
You seemed to have missed the point I was making earlier.
I never said that I liked HF's attitude or that I approved of it.
I'm not town-reading him for NOT shitflinging.
I'm saying that the way he constructs his arguments against people he's pushing, their content and the way he's expressing them is different from a meta based perspective.
Is it possible he changed his scum meta from one game to the next? sure, it's possible, he's a good player.
However what I've seen from him this game makes me inclined to believe he's town.
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On July 15 2015 06:01 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2015 05:22 Harkon wrote:On July 15 2015 00:09 Holyflare wrote:
I said ows/oats because it was lazy poe but obi actually being serious is so out of character that he's probably mafia. Oats is probably town for not nking or rbing geript after the whole tmi shit and that whole argument was towny anyway for thinkint along those lines.
This is a very bad read and HF knows better. No matter what Obis alignment is he has been serious as town before and it is absolutely not out of character for him- On July 15 2015 00:09 Holyflare wrote:
VA (and expert smurf hunter me says it's va) is probably mafia because he dislikes killing me, a jat shot is so shit in any game that it must be because jat was hinting at being blue and va likes hunting blues.
Ruxxar, you watching? Needless shitflinging once again. Not to mention that HF has killed me as scum multiple times and I basically always get shot if I am town. On July 15 2015 00:14 Clarity_nl wrote:
From your perspective, is there anyone who as scum think they can keep you alive and then try to mislynch you/get you shot by town? There is noone who would keep HF alive because he thinks he can mislynch him. On July 15 2015 03:23 Holyflare wrote:
lol @ obi criticism of VA not doing anything, that's just flat out hilarious and major ++++++ scum points
Further shitflinging. Very productive. On July 15 2015 03:34 Holyflare wrote:Like seriously this is the most fake push I've ever seen someone do. Not only is VA a CHRONIC lurker and Obi absolutely knows that to be the case but this post: On July 15 2015 03:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Honestly if you get lynched at this point then you have nobody but yourself to blame. We've given you plenty of opportunities to try to make sense of things and all you do is come up with excuses to not explain things or not post.
Maybe I'm actually mafia and your meta case will break the entire game open.
Maybe I'm actually town and finding the people that agree with a maybe weak case would expose them as mafia.
Maybe you can bring real insight into the game, despite your case.
You're literally not doing any of that and I'm tired of trying to probe you for even the most basic of explanations. I'm voting you tomorrow unless you can produce SOMETHING that makes me think better of you. just screams that obi thinks VA is actually town??? Everything he says is mafia indicative but it's phrased in such an "i know you're town so do something or i vote you" kind of way it's ridiculous Complete and utter bullshit. It is normal to talk to people like they are town like this and HF knows it. On July 15 2015 04:27 Holyflare wrote:On July 15 2015 04:26 ruXxar wrote:
Well he seems dead-set on shooting you so there's that :/.
I don't feel good about it but in a way it sort of clears up things.
LS said that he's fairly confident there's 1 mafia between you and rsoul, so if you flip green then we're probably going to lynch rsoul I hope. if you believe that ls gave obiwanshinobi his gun then you might actually be mafia Absolutely nonsensical statement. On July 15 2015 05:07 Holyflare wrote:On July 15 2015 05:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On July 15 2015 05:03 Holyflare wrote:On July 15 2015 05:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On July 15 2015 05:00 Holyflare wrote:
man you guys calling the guy giving the TOWN COP a chance scummy while everyone else did shit all and afk'd
:D :D :D :D :D
get gud guys I can be reasonable but you throwing scum at me for lame reasons (like tmi) is not going to work. If I'm not mafia, who is? i don't see how that's a lame argument at all, your filter is littered with defences of people multiple times at points where i don't think it was apt to defend people It is lame and you know it. I hard defend people literally ALL THE TIME in yet now, in THIS game, it's scummy, because ??? how do i know that? i don't read your posts ever because they are largely useless 1 liners that appear randomly at times i don't care about and just poe a team around you, this time you've been poe'd into the scum team and looking at your posts they seem largely unintuitive i've also already said clarity's list is largely interchangeable with his null reads too so there's that which is quite apparent since it was like what? 2 posts ago? then there's the fact you're far far far too aggressive to people scum reading you for no reason whatsoever, it's a colossal overreaction on every account. Further needless shitflinging while HF knows that Obi harddefends people as town all the time. HF is probably mafia. You seemed to have missed the point I was making earlier. I never said that I liked HF's attitude or that I approved of it. I'm not town-reading him for NOT shitflinging. I'm saying that the way he constructs his arguments against people he's pushing, their content and the way he's expressing them is different from a meta based perspective. Is it possible he changed his scum meta from one game to the next? sure, it's possible, he's a good player. However what I've seen from him this game makes me inclined to believe he's town.
Town HF is able to pressure or interrogate people without constant ad hom. Town HF knows it is counter productive to constantly provoke players and to fling shit at confirmed townies.
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I don't think i ever ad hom in my mafia games ever
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Scum HF on the other hand is happy with shitfighting and a bad thread atmosphere. Scum HF attacks confirmed townies for no good reason. Prove: Fidei in himalayas.
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Okay whoever got my gun you shoot HF he's like 99% scum. We lynching Scott tomorrow.
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If HF isn't shot we lynch HF instead of Scott.
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ls are you actually going to play this game or afk more and keep repeating the same thing?
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I not going to forgive myself unless you are scum because I fucked up hard vs you in our last game HF.
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On July 15 2015 06:08 Holyflare wrote:
ls are you actually going to play this game or afk more and keep repeating the same thing?
I was reading the thread I willing to kill you over anyone else in the thread.
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On July 15 2015 06:05 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think i ever ad hom in my mafia games ever
You do this game, in a subtle way. You're not saying "fuck you" but a lot of your posts have a subtext of "you're bad/stupid". Here:
+ Show Spoiler +On July 15 2015 05:56 Holyflare wrote:
lol jat you might be mad that such a great entity such as myself dislikes your style of play but that doesn't excuse you from actively trying to throw the game by refusing to participate with that player because you're in tears and stubborn On July 15 2015 04:29 Holyflare wrote:
and ls' read is a pile of steaming poop, it's literally based on meta that we don't argue as town which is actually just not meta and rather me being placid and not disagreeing on something, of course if 2 ego's collide in differing opinions they will argue
+ she plays badly On July 15 2015 05:00 Holyflare wrote:
man you guys calling the guy giving the TOWN COP a chance scummy while everyone else did shit all and afk'd
:D :D :D :D :D
get gud guys On July 15 2015 05:52 Holyflare wrote:
like is this really what a good player does?
"I think hf is mafia because x player plays like x as town and hf is misrepresenting him"
"no, that's not true! there's evidence in this game to say he's not playing like x! point out things that you think are similar to his town game and i'll counter it with evidence!"
"nah i'm done hf is mafia!" ....to just call the ones from your last 2 pages.
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