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On July 15 2015 00:51 Half the Sky wrote:Also still am curious - when you can - as to how you are seemingly quite confident in that OWS read (seemingly a tone read) based on his history from the database.
Nothing to do with his history i dunno i only ever remember him trying once as town and that was newbie game. Now he's acting all serious and making points but doesn't actually ever say anything. It's a little bit of poe with a little bit of him feeling off.
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On July 12 2015 14:16 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2015 13:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm losing all motivation to play this game. It's too goddamn big at this point and it's barely day 3.
I'm really hoping milo and scott are mafia because, if they're not, I'm afraid I'm never going to find more mafia.
Do we even have more scumreads outside of those two? This is a pretty bad idea - I just was filter diving on who talked about/with Damdred - You, Boxer, Trfel and Milo looked the worst, and Breshke, HalfTheSky and Vivax look much more interactive with him. What do you think of Boxerfred?
Let me clarify.
At Oats - basically he's saying that based on interactions with Damdred, 4 people looked really bad.
I checked Damdred's filter first, then Trfel qualified it by saying the conclusion was based off HIS filter.
So I went back and checked BF and OWS's filter and there were hardly any interactions between them and Damdred, and Damdred himself I think mentioned BF once in a question in passing) and OWS there was jack all.
I hardly interacted with Damdred D1, I know I townread him until the reservations on his pushes came up.
The point is, and especially now that Trfel is looking better and that milo is flipped town, this adds some weight to the fact that 1) Scott is taking things out of context here 2) his claims at least on 3 of the 4 people are definitiely not true, and he's saying I'm more interactive with him and without even checking Breshke and Vivax's filters, I KNOW that's wrong at least on me.
Basically what I'm saying is, those reads and much of that statement is contrived.
And I dropped the argument because he was wrong on the other two, I felt there was nothing to debate and it was 7am my time Sunday morning (and I was up all night Saturday night).
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EBWOP - The point is, and especially now that Trfel is looking better and that milo is flipped town, this adds some weight to the fact that 1) Scott is taking things out of context here 2) his claims at least on 3 of the 4 people are definitiely not true, and he's saying I'm more interactive with him and without even checking Breshke and Vivax's filters, I KNOW that's wrong at least on me.
Also 3) considering the people he's listed, and he's not giving in depth reads at all you also have the argument given that none of Trfel/BF/Milo had murky/null or worse standings with town, those are really easy people to push.
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Ok, so I'm thinking that kelsier is going to be a very interesting flip if he's mafia.
Once we have 2 mafia flipped we can start analyizing inter-mafia behavior and try to glean some information from how they interact(or don't!) with each other.
Until then it's sort of hard to draw any associative patterns between people.
I've looked more deeply into damdred's filter to see if I can find anything peculiar.
This is all from before geript claimed he tracked damdred:
+ Show Spoiler +Read progression:
Scumreads(strength):
LS - (very strong).
Clarity (strong).
Ritoky (medium)
Trfel (weak)
Wave (very weak).
Town reads:
Ruxx
Marv
Kelsier
HF
HTS
Palmar
We can see how he had both ritoky and LS in his scum-reads day 1. and they were 2 of his strongest scum reads.
Looking at this I find it unlikely that damdred would hard bus his partner so in my mind it's even less likely that clarity is scum here.
As for the town-reads I'll analyze them after tonight since at least kelsier is flipping and maybe one more.
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I'd be shocked if kelsier flips red
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On July 15 2015 01:10 Clarity_nl wrote:
I'd be shocked if kelsier flips red
Same.
Marv, I know you were getting paranoid of him at one point but this is your moment of truth...
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On July 14 2015 22:58 Harkon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2015 20:43 marvellosity wrote:
1) Marvellosity (filter) - town
2) Scott31337 (filter) - maybe scum?
3) WaveofShadow (filter) - pooface
4) Clarity_nl (filter) - i think town
5) ruXxar (filter) - i thought town? Trfel made me doubt
6) Vivax (filter) - maybe town?
10) boxerfred (filter) - ?
11) Meapak_Ziphh (filter) DLME Investigator Shot Night 2
12) Trfel (filter) - dick move town?
13) LightningStrike (filter) - town
15) ObiWanShinobi (filter) - maybe town?
16) KelsierSC (filter) - modkilled
18) Breshke (filter) - tonally town
19) Oatsmaster (filter) - long filter, townish?
21) rsoultin (filter) - ?
22) Half The Sky (filter) - townish
23) Harkon (filter) - p likely town
24) Holyflare (filter) - ?
25) XEliteBlueHunter69X (filter) - seemed townish but could easily not be i guess ?
like i do this, there are 4 mafia, so i'm calling a bunch of mafia town. Cool, I have a similar problem but I am nullreading most people instead of townreading them. 1) Marvellosity (filter) - p likely town 2) Scott31337 (filter) - maybe scum? 3) WaveofShadow (filter) - bad 4) Clarity_nl (filter) - i think town or playing a really good scumgame 5) ruXxar (filter) - i thought town? Trfel made me doubt 6) Vivax (filter) - no idea 10) boxerfred (filter) - I think town? 12) Trfel (filter) - dick move town? 13) LightningStrike (filter) - town 15) ObiWanShinobi (filter) - no idea 18) Breshke (filter) - no idea 19) Oatsmaster (filter) - long filter, townish? 21) rsoultin (filter) - ? 22) Half The Sky (filter) - townish 23) Harkon (filter) - town 24) Holyflare (filter) - ? 25) XEliteBlueHunter69X (filter) - no idea
Well if we're at it, I can join in:
1) Marvellosity (filter) - town but nothing happened last day to strengthen it
2) Scott31337 (filter) - null/scum lean
3) WaveofShadow (filter) - scum lean
4) Clarity_nl (filter) - by now, town lean
5) ruXxar (filter) - scum lean
6) Vivax (filter) - no idea
10) boxerfred (filter) - town
12) Trfel (filter) - lots of efforts lately, i like that, willing to lean town
13) LightningStrike (filter) - null
15) ObiWanShinobi (filter) - null
18) Breshke (filter) - town lean
19) Oatsmaster (filter) - null with a scum tendency
21) rsoultin (filter) - null
22) Half The Sky (filter) - null with a scum lean
23) Harkon (filter) - town for that vet claim
24) Holyflare (filter) - strongest scum lean, would lynch
25) XEliteBlueHunter69X (filter) - null
Totally fine with a HF lynch, the rest is rather hard. still saying HF better get shot this night.
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i'm sticking with town 
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On July 15 2015 01:11 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2015 22:58 Harkon wrote:On July 14 2015 20:43 marvellosity wrote:
1) Marvellosity (filter) - town
2) Scott31337 (filter) - maybe scum?
3) WaveofShadow (filter) - pooface
4) Clarity_nl (filter) - i think town
5) ruXxar (filter) - i thought town? Trfel made me doubt
6) Vivax (filter) - maybe town?
10) boxerfred (filter) - ?
11) Meapak_Ziphh (filter) DLME Investigator Shot Night 2
12) Trfel (filter) - dick move town?
13) LightningStrike (filter) - town
15) ObiWanShinobi (filter) - maybe town?
16) KelsierSC (filter) - modkilled
18) Breshke (filter) - tonally town
19) Oatsmaster (filter) - long filter, townish?
21) rsoultin (filter) - ?
22) Half The Sky (filter) - townish
23) Harkon (filter) - p likely town
24) Holyflare (filter) - ?
25) XEliteBlueHunter69X (filter) - seemed townish but could easily not be i guess ?
like i do this, there are 4 mafia, so i'm calling a bunch of mafia town. Cool, I have a similar problem but I am nullreading most people instead of townreading them. 1) Marvellosity (filter) - p likely town 2) Scott31337 (filter) - maybe scum? 3) WaveofShadow (filter) - bad 4) Clarity_nl (filter) - i think town or playing a really good scumgame 5) ruXxar (filter) - i thought town? Trfel made me doubt 6) Vivax (filter) - no idea 10) boxerfred (filter) - I think town? 12) Trfel (filter) - dick move town? 13) LightningStrike (filter) - town 15) ObiWanShinobi (filter) - no idea 18) Breshke (filter) - no idea 19) Oatsmaster (filter) - long filter, townish? 21) rsoultin (filter) - ? 22) Half The Sky (filter) - townish 23) Harkon (filter) - town 24) Holyflare (filter) - ? 25) XEliteBlueHunter69X (filter) - no idea Well if we're at it, I can join in: 1) Marvellosity (filter) - town but nothing happened last day to strengthen it 2) Scott31337 (filter) - null/scum lean 3) WaveofShadow (filter) - scum lean 4) Clarity_nl (filter) - by now, town lean 5) ruXxar (filter) - scum lean 6) Vivax (filter) - no idea 10) boxerfred (filter) - town 12) Trfel (filter) - lots of efforts lately, i like that, willing to lean town 13) LightningStrike (filter) - null 15) ObiWanShinobi (filter) - null 18) Breshke (filter) - town lean 19) Oatsmaster (filter) - null with a scum tendency 21) rsoultin (filter) - null 22) Half The Sky (filter) - null with a scum lean 23) Harkon (filter) - town for that vet claim 24) Holyflare (filter) - strongest scum lean, would lynch 25) XEliteBlueHunter69X (filter) - null Totally fine with a HF lynch, the rest is rather hard. still saying HF better get shot this night.
I'm struggling to find more than two scummy people, how do you have 6 scum leans?
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[QUOTE]On July 15 2015 01:09 ruXxar wrote:
Ok, so I'm thinking that kelsier is going to be a very interesting flip if he's mafia.
Once we have 2 mafia flipped we can start analyizing inter-mafia behavior and try to glean some information from how they interact(or don't!) with each other.
Until then it's sort of hard to draw any associative patterns between people.
Why are you so sure KSC was mafia?
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Damn bf your list is like really really bad.
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Stop calling me mafia guys.
Like really.
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On July 15 2015 01:09 ruXxar wrote:
Ok, so I'm thinking that kelsier is going to be a very interesting flip if he's mafia.
Once we have 2 mafia flipped we can start analyizing inter-mafia behavior and try to glean some information from how they interact(or don't!) with each other.
Until then it's sort of hard to draw any associative patterns between people.
Why are you so sure KSC was mafia?
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On July 15 2015 01:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Stop calling me mafia guys.
Like really.
I'm not. Apparently Oats and HF think you are...
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On July 15 2015 01:07 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2015 14:16 scott31337 wrote:On July 12 2015 13:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm losing all motivation to play this game. It's too goddamn big at this point and it's barely day 3.
I'm really hoping milo and scott are mafia because, if they're not, I'm afraid I'm never going to find more mafia.
Do we even have more scumreads outside of those two? This is a pretty bad idea - I just was filter diving on who talked about/with Damdred - You, Boxer, Trfel and Milo looked the worst, and Breshke, HalfTheSky and Vivax look much more interactive with him. What do you think of Boxerfred? Let me clarify. At Oats - basically he's saying that based on interactions with Damdred, 4 people looked really bad. I checked Damdred's filter first, then Trfel qualified it by saying the conclusion was based off HIS filter. So I went back and checked BF and OWS's filter and there were hardly any interactions between them and Damdred, and Damdred himself I think mentioned BF once in a question in passing) and OWS there was jack all. I hardly interacted with Damdred D1, I know I townread him until the reservations on his pushes came up. The point is, and especially now that Trfel is looking better and that milo is flipped town, this adds some weight to the fact that 1) Scott is taking things out of context here 2) his claims at least on 3 of the 4 people are definitiely not true, and he's saying I'm more interactive with him and without even checking Breshke and Vivax's filters, I KNOW that's wrong at least on me. Basically what I'm saying is, those reads and much of that statement is contrived. And I dropped the argument because he was wrong on the other two, I felt there was nothing to debate and it was 7am my time Sunday morning (and I was up all night Saturday night).
more interactive than nothing is correct.
You never asked him to clarify why exactly it is worse.
To me, if someone doesnt interact or even post stuff on the dude who is gonna get lynched and flips scum, thats at least a reason to scumread them.
So I dont know how you can definitively say that scott is basically lying.
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On July 15 2015 01:15 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2015 01:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Stop calling me mafia guys.
Like really. I'm not. Apparently Oats and HF think you are...
Hf is mafia so who gives a shit what he thinks.
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On July 15 2015 01:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Stop calling me mafia guys.
Like really.
dont bother wasting your time if thats your only thought process.
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On July 15 2015 01:11 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2015 22:58 Harkon wrote:On July 14 2015 20:43 marvellosity wrote:
1) Marvellosity (filter) - town
2) Scott31337 (filter) - maybe scum?
3) WaveofShadow (filter) - pooface
4) Clarity_nl (filter) - i think town
5) ruXxar (filter) - i thought town? Trfel made me doubt
6) Vivax (filter) - maybe town?
10) boxerfred (filter) - ?
11) Meapak_Ziphh (filter) DLME Investigator Shot Night 2
12) Trfel (filter) - dick move town?
13) LightningStrike (filter) - town
15) ObiWanShinobi (filter) - maybe town?
16) KelsierSC (filter) - modkilled
18) Breshke (filter) - tonally town
19) Oatsmaster (filter) - long filter, townish?
21) rsoultin (filter) - ?
22) Half The Sky (filter) - townish
23) Harkon (filter) - p likely town
24) Holyflare (filter) - ?
25) XEliteBlueHunter69X (filter) - seemed townish but could easily not be i guess ?
like i do this, there are 4 mafia, so i'm calling a bunch of mafia town. Cool, I have a similar problem but I am nullreading most people instead of townreading them. 1) Marvellosity (filter) - p likely town 2) Scott31337 (filter) - maybe scum? 3) WaveofShadow (filter) - bad 4) Clarity_nl (filter) - i think town or playing a really good scumgame 5) ruXxar (filter) - i thought town? Trfel made me doubt 6) Vivax (filter) - no idea 10) boxerfred (filter) - I think town? 12) Trfel (filter) - dick move town? 13) LightningStrike (filter) - town 15) ObiWanShinobi (filter) - no idea 18) Breshke (filter) - no idea 19) Oatsmaster (filter) - long filter, townish? 21) rsoultin (filter) - ? 22) Half The Sky (filter) - townish 23) Harkon (filter) - town 24) Holyflare (filter) - ? 25) XEliteBlueHunter69X (filter) - no idea Well if we're at it, I can join in: 1) Marvellosity (filter) - town but nothing happened last day to strengthen it 2) Scott31337 (filter) - null/scum lean 3) WaveofShadow (filter) - scum lean 4) Clarity_nl (filter) - by now, town lean 5) ruXxar (filter) - scum lean 6) Vivax (filter) - no idea 10) boxerfred (filter) - town 12) Trfel (filter) - lots of efforts lately, i like that, willing to lean town 13) LightningStrike (filter) - null 15) ObiWanShinobi (filter) - null 18) Breshke (filter) - town lean 19) Oatsmaster (filter) - null with a scum tendency 21) rsoultin (filter) - null 22) Half The Sky (filter) - null with a scum lean 23) Harkon (filter) - town for that vet claim 24) Holyflare (filter) - strongest scum lean, would lynch 25) XEliteBlueHunter69X (filter) - null Totally fine with a HF lynch, the rest is rather hard. still saying HF better get shot this night.
How the fuck you got me as null? I already claimed Gunsmith and gave my guns away and HTS(Who I gave my gun to Night 1) Confirmed that I gave her 1 of my guns. Read the thread.....
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I know I townread him until the reservations on his pushes came up.
Can I just clarify this?
You are saying that you townread damdred, until people started questioning his lynch? Or until people started questioning the people damdred pushed.
Cause he wasnt lynched off his pushes. He was lynched cause he got tracked.
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On July 15 2015 01:16 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2015 01:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Stop calling me mafia guys.
Like really. dont bother wasting your time if thats your only thought process.
Shut up oats.
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