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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 14 2015 16:18 GMT
#6541
On July 15 2015 01:17 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2015 01:11 boxerfred wrote:
On July 14 2015 22:58 Harkon wrote:
On July 14 2015 20:43 marvellosity wrote:
1) Marvellosity (filter) - town
2) Scott31337 (filter) - maybe scum?
3) WaveofShadow (filter) - pooface
4) Clarity_nl (filter) - i think town
5) ruXxar (filter) - i thought town? Trfel made me doubt
6) Vivax (filter) - maybe town?
10) boxerfred (filter) - ?
11) Meapak_Ziphh (filter) DLME Investigator Shot Night 2
12) Trfel (filter) - dick move town?
13) LightningStrike (filter) - town
15) ObiWanShinobi (filter) - maybe town?
16) KelsierSC (filter) - modkilled
18) Breshke (filter) - tonally town
19) Oatsmaster (filter) - long filter, townish?
21) rsoultin (filter) - ?
22) Half The Sky (filter) - townish
23) Harkon (filter) - p likely town
24) Holyflare (filter) - ?
25) XEliteBlueHunter69X (filter) - seemed townish but could easily not be i guess ?

like i do this, there are 4 mafia, so i'm calling a bunch of mafia town.

Cool, I have a similar problem but I am nullreading most people instead of townreading them.

1) Marvellosity (filter) - p likely town
2) Scott31337 (filter) - maybe scum?
3) WaveofShadow (filter) - bad
4) Clarity_nl (filter) - i think town or playing a really good scumgame
5) ruXxar (filter) - i thought town? Trfel made me doubt
6) Vivax (filter) - no idea
10) boxerfred (filter) - I think town?
12) Trfel (filter) - dick move town?
13) LightningStrike (filter) - town
15) ObiWanShinobi (filter) - no idea
18) Breshke (filter) - no idea
19) Oatsmaster (filter) - long filter, townish?
21) rsoultin (filter) - ?
22) Half The Sky (filter) - townish
23) Harkon (filter) - town
24) Holyflare (filter) - ?
25) XEliteBlueHunter69X (filter) - no idea

Well if we're at it, I can join in:

1) Marvellosity (filter) - town but nothing happened last day to strengthen it
2) Scott31337 (filter) - null/scum lean
3) WaveofShadow (filter) - scum lean
4) Clarity_nl (filter) - by now, town lean
5) ruXxar (filter) - scum lean
6) Vivax (filter) - no idea
10) boxerfred (filter) - town
12) Trfel (filter) - lots of efforts lately, i like that, willing to lean town
13) LightningStrike (filter) - null
15) ObiWanShinobi (filter) - null
18) Breshke (filter) - town lean
19) Oatsmaster (filter) - null with a scum tendency
21) rsoultin (filter) - null
22) Half The Sky (filter) - null with a scum lean
23) Harkon (filter) - town for that vet claim
24) Holyflare (filter) - strongest scum lean, would lynch
25) XEliteBlueHunter69X (filter) - null

Totally fine with a HF lynch, the rest is rather hard. still saying HF better get shot this night.

How the fuck you got me as null? I already claimed Gunsmith and gave my guns away and HTS(Who I gave my gun to Night 1) Confirmed that I gave her 1 of my guns. Read the thread.....

Yeah actually thats a pretty good point.
No gg, No skill.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 14 2015 16:18 GMT
#6542
Some of the more divergent reads I can understand from BF. He's been fear reading me the whole game for instance and he doesn't know or wouldn't know WoS's play.

But how does he think LS is null when KP's verified that there is a gunsmith? He'd have to believe that LS and I are on a scumteam together for one thing and that the real gunsmith didn't claim....I mean, someone grab the tinfoil hat please....
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 14 2015 16:18 GMT
#6543
On July 15 2015 01:18 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2015 01:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 15 2015 01:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Stop calling me mafia guys.
Like really.

dont bother wasting your time if thats your only thought process.


Shut up oats.

You gotta take it like a man.
No gg, No skill.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 14 2015 16:19 GMT
#6544
On July 15 2015 01:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2015 01:18 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 15 2015 01:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 15 2015 01:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Stop calling me mafia guys.
Like really.

dont bother wasting your time if thats your only thought process.


Shut up oats.

You gotta take it like a man.


lol
I love you Oats. Never change.
Retired.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
July 14 2015 16:19 GMT
#6545
On July 15 2015 01:18 Half the Sky wrote:
Some of the more divergent reads I can understand from BF. He's been fear reading me the whole game for instance and he doesn't know or wouldn't know WoS's play.

But how does he think LS is null when KP's verified that there is a gunsmith? He'd have to believe that LS and I are on a scumteam together for one thing and that the real gunsmith didn't claim....I mean, someone grab the tinfoil hat please....

Tubesock got plenty of those
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 14 2015 16:20 GMT
#6546
On July 15 2015 01:18 Half the Sky wrote:
Some of the more divergent reads I can understand from BF. He's been fear reading me the whole game for instance and he doesn't know or wouldn't know WoS's play.

But how does he think LS is null when KP's verified that there is a gunsmith? He'd have to believe that LS and I are on a scumteam together for one thing and that the real gunsmith didn't claim....I mean, someone grab the tinfoil hat please....


As much as I want to kill him scum for that horrendous list, I think it's more likely bad town. Like how does scum post that list? I had a townread on him prior to the list so... guess I'll stick to it.

List is terrible tho.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 14 2015 16:21 GMT
#6547
Yeah wave isnt actually town, his activity at this point is beyond town apathy, its not alignment indicative.
No gg, No skill.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 14 2015 16:21 GMT
#6548
On July 15 2015 01:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yeah wave isnt actually town, his activity at this point is beyond town apathy, its not alignment indicative.

mm.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 14 2015 16:21 GMT
#6549
On July 15 2015 01:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
I know I townread him until the reservations on his pushes came up.

Can I just clarify this?

You are saying that you townread damdred, until people started questioning his lynch? Or until people started questioning the people damdred pushed.

Cause he wasnt lynched off his pushes. He was lynched cause he got tracked.


My thought process was this - this was prior to the track claim

Early in the game we were talking about WoS. I told Marv that the ONLY reason I was TRing WoS was meta based on the fact that town WoS does little and plays a poor town game and that scum WoS based on his play in NSM11 was more active, more dickish, etc.

I crosschecked that meta in thread and OWS and Marv - both of whom were townreading at that time - said that the meta was true.

And if that held true, then that geript and KSC had reason or were onto Damdred not being as town and that's around the time I started doubting Damdred.

TLDR - the latter.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 14 2015 16:24 GMT
#6550
On July 15 2015 01:20 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2015 01:18 Half the Sky wrote:
Some of the more divergent reads I can understand from BF. He's been fear reading me the whole game for instance and he doesn't know or wouldn't know WoS's play.

But how does he think LS is null when KP's verified that there is a gunsmith? He'd have to believe that LS and I are on a scumteam together for one thing and that the real gunsmith didn't claim....I mean, someone grab the tinfoil hat please....


As much as I want to kill him scum for that horrendous list, I think it's more likely bad town. Like how does scum post that list? I had a townread on him prior to the list so... guess I'll stick to it.

List is terrible tho.


Normally I hate the too scum to be scum argument but then I also just realized with BF is that he is at least 30-40 pages behind every time he's in so it's very possible he could have missed the LS claim. But if he's examined it, it's just pretty out there.....ehhhhh and then again his scumhunting in general is pretty bad.

You're probably right.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 14 2015 16:26 GMT
#6551
So OWS, are your top scumreads still EBH/Scott? Or someone else?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 14 2015 16:26 GMT
#6552
I remember you pushing Scott pretty hard.....where do you stand on some of the other tossups?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 14 2015 16:29 GMT
#6553
On July 15 2015 01:26 Half the Sky wrote:
So OWS, are your top scumreads still EBH/Scott? Or someone else?


I've seen absolutely nothing in the last hundred pages to make me change my mind.
I love lynching low-impact players that don't post.

Hf is also possibly mafia.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 14 2015 16:30 GMT
#6554
On July 15 2015 01:26 Half the Sky wrote:
I remember you pushing Scott pretty hard.....where do you stand on some of the other tossups?


I already stated that I won't lynch ruxx because of the whole "lack of paranoia" thing.
I really don't think Wave is mafia because I can't see him being this apathetic but he probably needs to be shot/lynched anyway if he isn't going to play.

Who else?
Retired.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 14 2015 16:31 GMT
#6555
On July 15 2015 01:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2015 01:26 Half the Sky wrote:
I remember you pushing Scott pretty hard.....where do you stand on some of the other tossups?


I already stated that I won't lynch ruxx because of the whole "lack of paranoia" thing.
I really don't think Wave is mafia because I can't see him being this apathetic but he probably needs to be shot/lynched anyway if he isn't going to play.

Who else?


Vivax, Breshke and Boxerfred are also names being thrown around.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 14 2015 16:34 GMT
#6556
On July 15 2015 01:14 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2015 01:09 ruXxar wrote:
Ok, so I'm thinking that kelsier is going to be a very interesting flip if he's mafia.

Once we have 2 mafia flipped
we can start analyizing inter-mafia behavior and try to glean some information from how they interact(or don't!) with each other.
Until then it's sort of hard to draw any associative patterns between people.


Why are you so sure KSC was mafia?


Not sure at all.
It wouldn't surprise me though.
Like I've mentioned earlier he's acted really weird after D1, and his filter after D1 is really awful imo.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 14 2015 16:37 GMT
#6557
On July 15 2015 01:31 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2015 01:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 15 2015 01:26 Half the Sky wrote:
I remember you pushing Scott pretty hard.....where do you stand on some of the other tossups?


I already stated that I won't lynch ruxx because of the whole "lack of paranoia" thing.
I really don't think Wave is mafia because I can't see him being this apathetic but he probably needs to be shot/lynched anyway if he isn't going to play.

Who else?


Vivax, Breshke and Boxerfred are also names being thrown around.


I don't have a solid read on any of those players. I'll get back to you when I do.
Retired.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 14 2015 16:38 GMT
#6558
On July 15 2015 01:34 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2015 01:14 Half the Sky wrote:
On July 15 2015 01:09 ruXxar wrote:
Ok, so I'm thinking that kelsier is going to be a very interesting flip if he's mafia.

Once we have 2 mafia flipped
we can start analyizing inter-mafia behavior and try to glean some information from how they interact(or don't!) with each other.
Until then it's sort of hard to draw any associative patterns between people.


Why are you so sure KSC was mafia?


Not sure at all.
It wouldn't surprise me though.
Like I've mentioned earlier he's acted really weird after D1, and his filter after D1 is really awful imo.


Alright you did say "if he's mafia" but second sentence initially led me to believe you are expecting KSC to flip as mafia.

But given how you've been posting some obvious statements through this game I'm probably wrong and you're doing the same here too.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 14 2015 16:38 GMT
#6559
I am stepping out for food and I need to keep working.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 14 2015 16:41 GMT
#6560
On July 15 2015 01:38 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2015 01:34 ruXxar wrote:
On July 15 2015 01:14 Half the Sky wrote:
On July 15 2015 01:09 ruXxar wrote:
Ok, so I'm thinking that kelsier is going to be a very interesting flip if he's mafia.

Once we have 2 mafia flipped
we can start analyizing inter-mafia behavior and try to glean some information from how they interact(or don't!) with each other.
Until then it's sort of hard to draw any associative patterns between people.


Why are you so sure KSC was mafia?


Not sure at all.
It wouldn't surprise me though.
Like I've mentioned earlier he's acted really weird after D1, and his filter after D1 is really awful imo.


Alright you did say "if he's mafia" but second sentence initially led me to believe you are expecting KSC to flip as mafia.

But given how you've been posting some obvious statements through this game I'm probably wrong and you're doing the same here too.


I see how the second paragraph could be interpreted as related to the first paragraph, but they're meant as separate statements.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
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