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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 06 2015 20:15 GMT
#1367
On July 07 2015 04:46 boxerfred wrote:
I don't like the Miller claim that HtS spewed out, like he doesn't give a fuck. Reads more like a backup (which is sadly NAI), claiming Miller makes sense as scum and as town. He's threwing out cases and opinions without going too hard for someone. He did the same in the Himalaya game after he got in via replacement, he was scum in there.

I just want to say that before people start sheeping him.


Her, BTW. Usually it's a decent strategy to claim self-aware miller/wanderer in day 1 - if you try it later when you're already checked or being pressured no body will believe it. No body else has claimed miller as of yet (and BM claimed wanderer). I mean don't give her a confirmed town 100%, just look more into her thoughts and agenda - and at the moment they seem okay. HF had a good point though.

Why did you "hardclaim" cop while Rsoul was being pressured? Why did you time it then? Why did you say it at all?

What do you think of Palmar so far?

I guess for now I go with the believe ritoky on his claim for today.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 06 2015 20:26 GMT
#1376
I'm thinking I like a milo lynch -

On July 06 2015 11:48 milo109 wrote:
Damn, I want to follow Oats to victory. Let me be the first to call it out from the hilltops, and let all those with pure hearts rejoice, Oatsmaster is town.


Then Ruxxar has this post -

On July 06 2015 12:03 ruXxar wrote:
Oatsy <3

I like where you're going so far.
You're showing determination in your play.
That's what I wanna see from you.

Is there a difference between your mafia scum reads, or is everyone you call mafia equally mafia?


Oats and Milo call out Ruxxar's post, but Oats does not call out Milo's post for townreading him for his "name mafia" posts. Very interesting. I'm townreading Ruxxar but not Oats and Milo.

We still have two people who haven't even posted (Zipph and Elite69) for all we know they could be two out of the five mafia right there.

The rest of his filter basically has "Damd mafia" "Keis mafia" "Oats town".
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 06 2015 22:40 GMT
#1427
On July 07 2015 07:31 rsoultin wrote:
parrotstrike xP

oh noooooeees i posted another xP

oh wait there's another xP

o.0 the xPs are just multiplying!

xP xP xP xP xP

ahem

actually i misremembered lol >< i thought it was milo who actually called oats' case good

disregard

still, milo boring; could lynch lol ><

i dunnae that i want to lynch scott even though he was the one i was referring to above...i remember liking some of his posting :/ (plus um, the lack of sense thing i've seen from him before in obs xP)

YET ANOTHER xP!


xP over-compensation - extremely suspicious...

Referring to above, are you referring to the xP overload or something else? Because it wasn't me who went off on the xP's - so what do you mean?
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 07 2015 01:46 GMT
#1662
On July 07 2015 10:40 milo109 wrote:
Alright... Explanations for my reads. First of all, I've played one game. That game I happened to be scum and won. Perhaps my opening strategy is not indicative of alignment, as you have nothing to compare it to. I've not had as much time to devote to the game as I would like, so I threw out my gut reads. The game is hard when you're town. Almost everything is justifiable in one way or the other, which makes it hard to find certainty.

QUOTE]On July 06 2015 11:07 milo109 wrote:
I'm mildly certain Kelsier is scum.


I read this:
On July 06 2015 11:01 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 10:59 milo109 wrote:
Holy Crap this game is big.


like my dong


On July 06 2015 09:16 KelsierSC wrote:
scptt fuck you


On July 06 2015 08:00 KelsierSC wrote:
aight, I can beleeee dat


Dislike the dumb jokes. This is mildly amusing because my first read in my other game was based on tone too.


On July 06 2015 11:20 milo109 wrote:
Hmmm. I feel like I should post more but I don't have much more. Leaning town on Holyflare, and I want to call WaveofShadow also town. But I can't.


I liked WaveofShadow just for his tone, but wasn't willing to pronounce him town for it. Holyflare's filter was a pleasure to read. No reads that felt discordant or forced. Casual enough, but also not afraid to explain.

On July 06 2015 11:24 milo109 wrote:
It's harder to read Damdred when you aren't mafia. I'm gonna call him mafia here though.


He usually waits to start calling people trash.[/QUOTE]

I hope you have more then this because you just voted for LS and haven't said shit about him in your filter. Was it Trfel's case?
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 07 2015 01:48 GMT
#1664
On July 07 2015 10:46 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 10:40 milo109 wrote:
Alright... Explanations for my reads. First of all, I've played one game. That game I happened to be scum and won. Perhaps my opening strategy is not indicative of alignment, as you have nothing to compare it to. I've not had as much time to devote to the game as I would like, so I threw out my gut reads. The game is hard when you're town. Almost everything is justifiable in one way or the other, which makes it hard to find certainty.

On July 06 2015 11:07 milo109 wrote:
I'm mildly certain Kelsier is scum.


I read this:
On July 06 2015 11:01 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 06 2015 10:59 milo109 wrote:
Holy Crap this game is big.


like my dong


On July 06 2015 09:16 KelsierSC wrote:
scptt fuck you


On July 06 2015 08:00 KelsierSC wrote:
aight, I can beleeee dat


Dislike the dumb jokes. This is mildly amusing because my first read in my other game was based on tone too.


On July 06 2015 11:20 milo109 wrote:
Hmmm. I feel like I should post more but I don't have much more. Leaning town on Holyflare, and I want to call WaveofShadow also town. But I can't.


I liked WaveofShadow just for his tone, but wasn't willing to pronounce him town for it. Holyflare's filter was a pleasure to read. No reads that felt discordant or forced. Casual enough, but also not afraid to explain.

On July 06 2015 11:24 milo109 wrote:
It's harder to read Damdred when you aren't mafia. I'm gonna call him mafia here though.


He usually waits to start calling people trash.


EBWOP Fixed the quote - my previous message makes it look like I wrote the above.

I hope you have more then this because you just voted for LS and haven't said shit about him in your filter. Was it Trfel's case?

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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 07 2015 17:40 GMT
#2387
Catching up - at page 98 - Got a bit more to go -

On July 07 2015 20:18 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 12:42 Breshke wrote:
I also think scott is probably mafia.

His reads list was lackluster and jsut seems to be some surface level stuff without actually trying to work anything out.

The only interesting thing is this

On July 07 2015 05:26 scott31337 wrote:
I'm thinking I like a milo lynch -

On July 06 2015 11:48 milo109 wrote:
Damn, I want to follow Oats to victory. Let me be the first to call it out from the hilltops, and let all those with pure hearts rejoice, Oatsmaster is town.


Then Ruxxar has this post -

On July 06 2015 12:03 ruXxar wrote:
Oatsy <3

I like where you're going so far.
You're showing determination in your play.
That's what I wanna see from you.

Is there a difference between your mafia scum reads, or is everyone you call mafia equally mafia?


Oats and Milo call out Ruxxar's post, but Oats does not call out Milo's post for townreading him for his "name mafia" posts. Very interesting. I'm townreading Ruxxar but not Oats and Milo.

We still have two people who haven't even posted (Zipph and Elite69) for all we know they could be two out of the five mafia right there.

The rest of his filter basically has "Damd mafia" "Keis mafia" "Oats town".


But it feels like he is reaching and i don't really get why the AFK's get a mention halfway through.


Here it is. Initially I read this post because Breshke was throwing around weird "general" type accusations like:

"His reads list was lackluster"
"some surface level stuff without actually trying to work anything out"
"But it feels like he is reaching"

Like this is why I'm only half liking breshke even though I sorta like his case. This is the type of accusations people make when they don't know what they should be saying. But it's both conceivable that Breshke made this shit up as mafia, and that he simply doesn't quite know how to present his findings as town.

As almost an afterthought I read scott's post that Breshke highlighted and it's really a terrible post. The biggest thing I'm worried about is that it seems rather unlikely that scott would try to call out the entire mafia team like that if he is mafia.

So... as I write this I'm officially waffling.

idk what to think about either of them.


I really don't think Breshke is mafia either for trying to go after this. He made a decent point and Oats somewhat explained it himself as well. My reads was a copy and paste from my spreadsheet that I'm keeping notes in. I'm updating it along the way.

On July 07 2015 20:31 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 20:22 Palmar wrote:
Tbh, if clarity is mafia it's because in literally the second post in the game he said holyflare claiming VT in the first post of the game is somehow "interesting".

It's not interesting, people do this shit every fucking game and no one should give a fuck. The fact he tried to appear interested in something so completely and obviously worthless (nevermind that HF is the worst "dick around with claims" offender on TL) is actually kinda scummy and the reason I threw my vote on him yesterday.

Like I think it's sort of mafia like but I don't know if I can convince people that calling something interesting that isn't interesting is a solid case for someone being mafia.

I disagree on "noone should give a fuck". Every claim at every point in the game deserves attention. However I agree, pointing out how interesting it is does indicate that clarity wants to put emphasis on the claim - which he did not do. Although he said that due to him, people were talking "5 pages" about the claim which was simply a lie. I pointed that out alread (roughly page 40something I think) and I will point to that again. That's one of the reasons why clarity still is among my top scum reads!

So I'm fine with lynching HF and clarity. I can see that HF is not going to be lynched today although I'm not liking marv yet. He's engaging and discussing, but he's not really making points. However it's day1, he just caught up, so I keep it at a null read and won't lean towards any alignment.

I'll re-go for clarity and I'm fine with anyone who joins me on that.

##unvote ##vote clarity_nl


So if you are saying you are willing to vote for HF and Clarity - that means the posts at the beginning were a stunt and that they are both mafia? It honestly seems a little far fetched for me. If HF is mafia it's a great pocket post, and I could see him doing it, but I'm siding that he's town right now - including his observations, and how he went after rsoul.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 07 2015 18:54 GMT
#2482
So about Milo -

On July 08 2015 00:13 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 23:30 Harkon wrote:
This post is definitely a pretty bold statement especially since it isn't paired with any reason as to why.
On July 07 2015 11:37 milo109 wrote:
Meh. I think LS is a better lynch. Your case is unconvincing.


i thought the same about that comment


On July 07 2015 10:46 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 10:40 milo109 wrote:
Alright... Explanations for my reads. First of all, I've played one game. That game I happened to be scum and won. Perhaps my opening strategy is not indicative of alignment, as you have nothing to compare it to. I've not had as much time to devote to the game as I would like, so I threw out my gut reads. The game is hard when you're town. Almost everything is justifiable in one way or the other, which makes it hard to find certainty.

On July 06 2015 11:07 milo109 wrote:
I'm mildly certain Kelsier is scum.


I read this:
On July 06 2015 11:01 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 06 2015 10:59 milo109 wrote:
Holy Crap this game is big.


like my dong


On July 06 2015 09:16 KelsierSC wrote:
scptt fuck you


On July 06 2015 08:00 KelsierSC wrote:
aight, I can beleeee dat


Dislike the dumb jokes. This is mildly amusing because my first read in my other game was based on tone too.


On July 06 2015 11:20 milo109 wrote:
Hmmm. I feel like I should post more but I don't have much more. Leaning town on Holyflare, and I want to call WaveofShadow also town. But I can't.


I liked WaveofShadow just for his tone, but wasn't willing to pronounce him town for it. Holyflare's filter was a pleasure to read. No reads that felt discordant or forced. Casual enough, but also not afraid to explain.

On July 06 2015 11:24 milo109 wrote:
It's harder to read Damdred when you aren't mafia. I'm gonna call him mafia here though.


He usually waits to start calling people trash.


I hope you have more then this because you just voted for LS and haven't said shit about him in your filter. Was it Trfel's case?


He replies with
On July 07 2015 10:47 milo109 wrote:
It was his filter. I haven't read Trfel's case yet. Good on him though.


And his reasons are

On July 07 2015 10:50 milo109 wrote:
I hate all these posts.

Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 07:36 LightningStrike wrote:
On July 06 2015 07:35 rsoultin wrote:
no, i'm the copcake!

...........


Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 11:21 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I liking you this game KSC if you care just don't be a dick to me this game please? <3



Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 22:23 LightningStrike wrote:
Good morning Tina any thoughts you would like to share?



Some quotes which I really do not see LS as alignment indictive - which is one of the reasons I think milo is scummy.

On July 08 2015 02:00 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Not feeling an HTS lynch.

Try again town.


The most townie thing OWS has done all game.

My updated spreadsheet -

1) Marvellosity  townie been picking it up the last 36 hours with good marv thoughts
2) Scott31337  town
3) WaveofShadow  Voted HF weirdly (actually never did in thread) / null
4) Clarity_nl  mixed it with HF / slight town - defends Damdreds case ok - wants to lynch Vivax/BM/Milo
5) ruXxar  slight town/proviing insight of game - suspicious of rsoul, quite diff. then last game scums vivax/oats
6) Vivax  Meh/null of scum defends trfel calls Rsoul town
7) Bill Murray  wanderer claim/hasn't done shit otherwise, no CC
8) ritoky  reads boxer as town as well, claimed one shot cop, scum OBS
9) geript  slight town but could be doing this as either alignment - keep an eye out
10) boxerfred  scumlean posts fakeclaim cop to distract from rsoul. Scummers reading him town/votes HF with no solid reasoning. Seems to jump on any bandwagon lynch (oats, now clarity) Now HTS back to Oats
11) Meapak_Ziphh  No posts still as of yet.
12) Trfel  Crap start - really different from his last game - added apologies - don’t think he's mafia though. Unsure what to do with him.
13) LightningStrike  slight town Damdred brings up good conclusions on his meta / looking up cases had an okay defense
14) Palmar  Called boxerfred town which I don’t like/believe in but providing analysis - slight town
15) ObiWanShinobi  Bad vote on HF / scumlean - wants to lynch me for no reasons
16) KelsierSC  Trying to think the game / townlean
17) milo109  scumlean ,towns HF / Oats / Wave - voted LS for bad filter reading
18) Breshke  A post or two I like asking LS about me - could be anything - weak mafia read on me - nullish town
19) Oatsmaster  Says Clarity /WoS mafia now wants to vote HTS although - scumlean
20) Damdred  Slight town going after LS believes in his case on Clarity but I think Clarity's town
21) rsoultin  not a great defense when pressured, paranoid of her - scumlean
22) Half The Sky  miller claim / decent listpost - flipped read on HF after being questioned which was weird - slight townlean
23) Harkon  Smurf - JAT? Suspicious of ritoky's claim, but. Slight town
24) Holyflare  Mindmelt opening - Doesn't like certain Rsoul's play - town lean (day 3/4 alive watch out)
25) XEliteBlueHunter69X  Null- Vivax/Geript possible scum - Palmar town

I'm down most for a Milo lynch. I'm caught up in the thread.

@Boxerfred can you give an updated scum list? You just seem to be bouncing and voting and hoping to get something to stick - you went from HF (which you townread now?) to Oats, to HTS and then back to Oats. Are they all scummy?

@Breshke are you still scumreading me? Can you give me the reasoning of such?
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 07 2015 18:56 GMT
#2487
On July 08 2015 03:52 milo109 wrote:
I want to lynch ten people.

Damdred
Scott
Ritoky
HF
HtS
Clarity
Kelsier
LS
Rsoul
Vaxx(whatever his name is)

Hopefully I might be able to narrow that down a little.


This list is awesome - can you rank this at all?

Makes me feel that the Ritoky claim is even more legit.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 07 2015 19:55 GMT
#2616
On July 08 2015 04:52 ritoky wrote:
People need to move their votes. There are still 7 votes on milo and I am pretty sure he is also a cop like me. Even if you think that we're not cops and there's 1 mafia between us, you're still lynching me over him because he has a 2-shot ability and I have a 1-shot.

As I said, consolidate onto HtS or me.

Vote movement please.


He'll be roleblocked/killed anyway - why would it matter two shot one shot? I don't see the reasoning here. He looks scummier then you.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 07 2015 19:56 GMT
#2624
On July 08 2015 04:53 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 03:54 scott31337 wrote:
So about Milo -

On July 08 2015 00:13 marvellosity wrote:
On July 07 2015 23:30 Harkon wrote:
This post is definitely a pretty bold statement especially since it isn't paired with any reason as to why.
On July 07 2015 11:37 milo109 wrote:
Meh. I think LS is a better lynch. Your case is unconvincing.


i thought the same about that comment


On July 07 2015 10:46 scott31337 wrote:
On July 07 2015 10:40 milo109 wrote:
Alright... Explanations for my reads. First of all, I've played one game. That game I happened to be scum and won. Perhaps my opening strategy is not indicative of alignment, as you have nothing to compare it to. I've not had as much time to devote to the game as I would like, so I threw out my gut reads. The game is hard when you're town. Almost everything is justifiable in one way or the other, which makes it hard to find certainty.

On July 06 2015 11:07 milo109 wrote:
I'm mildly certain Kelsier is scum.


I read this:
On July 06 2015 11:01 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 06 2015 10:59 milo109 wrote:
Holy Crap this game is big.


like my dong


On July 06 2015 09:16 KelsierSC wrote:
scptt fuck you


On July 06 2015 08:00 KelsierSC wrote:
aight, I can beleeee dat


Dislike the dumb jokes. This is mildly amusing because my first read in my other game was based on tone too.


On July 06 2015 11:20 milo109 wrote:
Hmmm. I feel like I should post more but I don't have much more. Leaning town on Holyflare, and I want to call WaveofShadow also town. But I can't.


I liked WaveofShadow just for his tone, but wasn't willing to pronounce him town for it. Holyflare's filter was a pleasure to read. No reads that felt discordant or forced. Casual enough, but also not afraid to explain.

On July 06 2015 11:24 milo109 wrote:
It's harder to read Damdred when you aren't mafia. I'm gonna call him mafia here though.


He usually waits to start calling people trash.


I hope you have more then this because you just voted for LS and haven't said shit about him in your filter. Was it Trfel's case?


He replies with
On July 07 2015 10:47 milo109 wrote:
It was his filter. I haven't read Trfel's case yet. Good on him though.


And his reasons are

On July 07 2015 10:50 milo109 wrote:
I hate all these posts.

On July 06 2015 07:36 LightningStrike wrote:
On July 06 2015 07:35 rsoultin wrote:
no, i'm the copcake!

...........


On July 06 2015 11:21 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I liking you this game KSC if you care just don't be a dick to me this game please? <3



On July 06 2015 22:23 LightningStrike wrote:
Good morning Tina any thoughts you would like to share?



Some quotes which I really do not see LS as alignment indictive - which is one of the reasons I think milo is scummy.

On July 08 2015 02:00 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Not feeling an HTS lynch.

Try again town.


The most townie thing OWS has done all game.

My updated spreadsheet -

1) Marvellosity  townie been picking it up the last 36 hours with good marv thoughts
2) Scott31337  town
3) WaveofShadow  Voted HF weirdly (actually never did in thread) / null
4) Clarity_nl  mixed it with HF / slight town - defends Damdreds case ok - wants to lynch Vivax/BM/Milo
5) ruXxar  slight town/proviing insight of game - suspicious of rsoul, quite diff. then last game scums vivax/oats
6) Vivax  Meh/null of scum defends trfel calls Rsoul town
7) Bill Murray  wanderer claim/hasn't done shit otherwise, no CC
8) ritoky  reads boxer as town as well, claimed one shot cop, scum OBS
9) geript  slight town but could be doing this as either alignment - keep an eye out
10) boxerfred  scumlean posts fakeclaim cop to distract from rsoul. Scummers reading him town/votes HF with no solid reasoning. Seems to jump on any bandwagon lynch (oats, now clarity) Now HTS back to Oats
11) Meapak_Ziphh  No posts still as of yet.
12) Trfel  Crap start - really different from his last game - added apologies - don’t think he's mafia though. Unsure what to do with him.
13) LightningStrike  slight town Damdred brings up good conclusions on his meta / looking up cases had an okay defense
14) Palmar  Called boxerfred town which I don’t like/believe in but providing analysis - slight town
15) ObiWanShinobi  Bad vote on HF / scumlean - wants to lynch me for no reasons
16) KelsierSC  Trying to think the game / townlean
17) milo109  scumlean ,towns HF / Oats / Wave - voted LS for bad filter reading
18) Breshke  A post or two I like asking LS about me - could be anything - weak mafia read on me - nullish town
19) Oatsmaster  Says Clarity /WoS mafia now wants to vote HTS although - scumlean
20) Damdred  Slight town going after LS believes in his case on Clarity but I think Clarity's town
21) rsoultin  not a great defense when pressured, paranoid of her - scumlean
22) Half The Sky  miller claim / decent listpost - flipped read on HF after being questioned which was weird - slight townlean
23) Harkon  Smurf - JAT? Suspicious of ritoky's claim, but. Slight town
24) Holyflare  Mindmelt opening - Doesn't like certain Rsoul's play - town lean (day 3/4 alive watch out)
25) XEliteBlueHunter69X  Null- Vivax/Geript possible scum - Palmar town

I'm down most for a Milo lynch. I'm caught up in the thread.

@Boxerfred can you give an updated scum list? You just seem to be bouncing and voting and hoping to get something to stick - you went from HF (which you townread now?) to Oats, to HTS and then back to Oats. Are they all scummy?

@Breshke are you still scumreading me? Can you give me the reasoning of such?


This is a huge pile of words that does not say much.

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@Boxerfred can you give an updated scum list? You just seem to be bouncing and voting and hoping to get something to stick - you went from HF (which you townread now?) to Oats, to HTS and then back to Oats. Are they all scummy?


No changes apart from HF. My scum reads are clarity, oats, wave, trfel, ritoky. My slight lean is HtS.

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10) boxerfred  scumlean posts fakeclaim cop to distract from rsoul. Scummers reading him town/votes HF with no solid reasoning. Seems to jump on any bandwagon lynch (oats, now clarity) Now HTS back to Oats


I explained why I fakeclaimed post and why I abstained from it.
In a majority scenario, of course I jump trains. Though I'm not jumping on any bandwagon. What I did was thoroughly explaining my scum reads, then going after Oats. Which I still do.

I don't like the list you throw out. Some of the guys you read town are having a town lean on me (e.g. Damdred) although you say they are scum. Why are you reading him town although he's leaning me town?

Also, you basically have an opinion on everyone but refrain from putting some real pressure on people?

Scott, I'm not buying this as an effort.


I put the pressure and my vote on milo almost 24 hours ago. I'm not pressuring anybody?

Try again.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 07 2015 20:05 GMT
#2654
On July 08 2015 05:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
I have a lot of trouble lynching cop claims or hts.
Wat do


Oats thinks you're mafia.
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scott31337
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United States2979 Posts
July 07 2015 20:08 GMT
#2663
On July 08 2015 05:07 geript wrote:
I kinda want to lynch Scott


reasons?
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 07 2015 20:24 GMT
#2700
On July 08 2015 05:17 Trfel wrote:
I need to leave soon, and I haven't caught up in the thread.

I see that milo109 claimed two-shot cop, and Holyflare claimed vigilante.

If it's between milo109 and ritoky, I think I lynch ritoky.

I don't want to lynch Half the Sky, but I also don't know why people are scumreading her?

Anyway, (very) short version of why Holyflare is scum:

Someone once said that Holyflare gets mad as town, but not as scum. This isn't really true, but Holyflare's tone seems to be a fairly good way of reading him.

For example, in Linux Mafia, Holyflare was mad at most people in the game and towards the end of Day 1 started throwing suspicion more wildly at everyone. His anger didn't really have justification. Contrast with Guardians of the Galaxy, where Holyflare and Alakaslam scumread each other early on. Despite Alakaslam being somewhat scummy (he always is, to some extent), Holyflare eventually agreed that Alakaslam could be town, despite objectively having little reason for it. And he didn't let his anger get in the way of scumhunting.

Here, Holyflare's felt way too angry, way too often. One example of this is that he was angry at me. If Holyflare is very confident that I am scum, he should be happy at having caught me, not angry at me for doing scummy things. It makes sense for him to be angry at townies who don't want to lynch me. However, Holyflare's posting didn't at all seem interested in showing people why I am mafia, but instead focused on pointless arguing with me. Holyflare knows when an argument isn't going anywhere, especially when it's with one of his scumreads. Holyflare has no problem filling the thread with nonsense and arguing with no goal in mind.


HF jokes as vigi in like every game he's town - did you think his claim was serious?
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 07 2015 20:35 GMT
#2725
Meat ninja voted for Clarity
On July 08 2015 05:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
##Vote: Clarity_nl


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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 07 2015 20:51 GMT
#2769
On July 08 2015 05:50 milo109 wrote:
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On July 08 2015 05:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 08 2015 05:45 milo109 wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks a MZ/BM lynch tells us literally nothing?


It tells us their alignments.
So that's something.

But like... we can always do that later. They're not going to help me figure out who is next.


The nightkills will tell us quite a bit.

Or did you forget about that since you fake-claimed?
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 07 2015 21:11 GMT
#2792
Trfel slightly martyred and the wagon came off of him to milo
Milo claimed two shot cop and was taken off of him
Har hard defended Rsoul so we can't lynch her
MZ actually posted "let me read" and voted Clarity and the wagon jumped on him

Are you still scumreading me Breshke?
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 07 2015 21:12 GMT
#2794
Rsoul's back
Can we lynch her now Harkon?
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 07 2015 21:14 GMT
#2796
On July 08 2015 05:51 Half the Sky wrote:
HF, since you asked....

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On July 08 2015 05:34 Holyflare wrote:
On July 08 2015 05:30 Holyflare wrote:
plz

rsoultin hasn't really given ANY scum reads other than me

rsoultin said she had a hard on for lynching people she thought was scummy because she likes being correct

rsoultin cases me

rsoultin asks marv if i'm scum

marv says no

rsoultin completely drops it and never makes another read again

11 pages, what reads do you remember her making?



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On July 06 2015 23:11 rsoultin wrote:
Lol ruxx/hf prob scum

Get rekt

To the rest of y'all...learn to read


Pushes ruxxar after that. Is doubting that Damdred is town....

If you're going to argue that she hasn't been memorable that's a different argument I have to filter dive her to look at her other reads besides you....

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On July 07 2015 03:22 rsoultin wrote:
On July 07 2015 03:17 rsoultin wrote:
harkon, what you got?

you've been hanging back, and only one person i know i'm actually fine letting that slide with cause that's how he plays, but i don't think you're him anymore


disregard

i'm possibly just being more paranoid about ruxxar, because some of the biggest clues to his scumgame, apart from that damning post end-game in his first newbie where he basically described how he was playing mafia in himalayas to the world lol ><, were in the wording

he had a completely unnatural reaction to holyflare's "but i'm town guys really" whining in particular

i could retrieve the post

like my only reservation on the whole wording thing really is that it might be a language thing, but i didn't like the combination with the soft push when everyone was up my ass


The only question I have after going through her filter is how/why she drops the ruxxar read for milo. Or rather why she drops the ruxxar read altogether. She talks about ruxxar quite a bit in her filter. And I don't think her read on Damdred was hard scum but she had concerns on it.

I don't think I'd lynch her without her talking about that stuff though.

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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 07 2015 21:27 GMT
#2824
On July 08 2015 06:19 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
lol decided to refresh the vote thread and discovered I'm being killed. I'm currently on page 57, I legitimately have not read this thread. The vote on Clarity was so I didn't get modkilled as he was the scummiest person I found in the first 5 pages.

Top scum reads right now are clarity, milo, and trfel. There are also probably a red or two in the beginning of my wagon as well as the end of my wagon. I'm going to keep catching up but I'll leave another tab open with the current page and refresh it every so often.


Why were you AFK for so long?
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 07 2015 21:30 GMT
#2832
On July 08 2015 06:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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On July 08 2015 06:27 scott31337 wrote:
On July 08 2015 06:19 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
lol decided to refresh the vote thread and discovered I'm being killed. I'm currently on page 57, I legitimately have not read this thread. The vote on Clarity was so I didn't get modkilled as he was the scummiest person I found in the first 5 pages.

Top scum reads right now are clarity, milo, and trfel. There are also probably a red or two in the beginning of my wagon as well as the end of my wagon. I'm going to keep catching up but I'll leave another tab open with the current page and refresh it every so often.


Why were you AFK for so long?

forgot the game started. You can look at my TL post history, I'm not very active anymore when I don't have a mafia game to play.


If we give you another day will you actually play?
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