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I have problems with his post style and I hate to say that I am having problems with your filter
And I HATE to call you scum, but I can see you coming from that perspective now
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On June 18 2015 14:21 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 14:18 GlowingBear wrote: Breshke, why exactly you are reading shockey for? I assume this is meant to say town reading. I'm not. But he is LS's biggest scumread and instead of convincing me he is scum LS decides respond to random stuff that doesn't matter.
And why do you need LS to convince YOU that SHOCKEY is scum?
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On June 18 2015 14:21 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 14:16 Breshke wrote:LS isn't even trying to convince me of his read on shockey or any other player which i feel he should think is more important than this. On June 18 2015 14:13 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 14:10 rsoultin wrote:On June 18 2015 14:03 GlowingBear wrote:On June 18 2015 13:57 rsoultin wrote:On June 18 2015 13:54 GlowingBear wrote:On June 18 2015 13:43 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 13:37 GlowingBear wrote:On June 18 2015 13:35 LightningStrike wrote: [quote] No you just being bad. Why pointing out the "smurf hunt" thing then? Because from the way I read it was like you calling him Rayn(Who is usually a jerk as scum) and we shouldn't really care about the smurf's aka as long they help us as town. Here is my problem: I never intended to put effort in smurf hunting by calling him Rayn. I do this everytime with smurfs. Your interpretation was a huge overreaction. But the biggest problem is not that you looked at me and said: "GB we shouldn't smurf hunt dude" if you really read me as town. My concern is that you just posted "WOW YOU'RE SMURF HUNTING THAT'S ODD" in such a way that you clearly was throwing suspicions at me. Why throwing suspicions like that on someone you think is town instead of simply SUGGESTING that I should not scum hunt? dude haven't i already told you to let this go -_- even if ls is scum this has no bearing on his alignment. stop quibbling over trivialities How come not? He saw an opportunity to discredit me and took it, even while townreading me. Tell me how a town would react this way. if he indeed was attempting to discredit you, sure xP but how do you know that's what he actually was doing? or how strong his townread on you is? do you never question townreads when they say something that looks weird to you? see why this doesn't matter yet? I wasn't trying to discredit you GB I was just finding it odd that's all  ##Unvote ##Vote Lightningstrike The bolded is bull shit I actually been trying to convince you on my case but instead I facing a brick wall from everyone but it prob because everyone thing I a Mason with Damdred it just me and Damdred work well together -_-.
Wait, you're masoned with Damdred or not?
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On June 18 2015 14:23 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 14:22 GlowingBear wrote:On June 18 2015 14:21 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 14:16 Breshke wrote:LS isn't even trying to convince me of his read on shockey or any other player which i feel he should think is more important than this. On June 18 2015 14:13 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 14:10 rsoultin wrote:On June 18 2015 14:03 GlowingBear wrote:On June 18 2015 13:57 rsoultin wrote:On June 18 2015 13:54 GlowingBear wrote:On June 18 2015 13:43 LightningStrike wrote: [quote] Because from the way I read it was like you calling him Rayn(Who is usually a jerk as scum) and we shouldn't really care about the smurf's aka as long they help us as town. Here is my problem: I never intended to put effort in smurf hunting by calling him Rayn. I do this everytime with smurfs. Your interpretation was a huge overreaction. But the biggest problem is not that you looked at me and said: "GB we shouldn't smurf hunt dude" if you really read me as town. My concern is that you just posted "WOW YOU'RE SMURF HUNTING THAT'S ODD" in such a way that you clearly was throwing suspicions at me. Why throwing suspicions like that on someone you think is town instead of simply SUGGESTING that I should not scum hunt? dude haven't i already told you to let this go -_- even if ls is scum this has no bearing on his alignment. stop quibbling over trivialities How come not? He saw an opportunity to discredit me and took it, even while townreading me. Tell me how a town would react this way. if he indeed was attempting to discredit you, sure xP but how do you know that's what he actually was doing? or how strong his townread on you is? do you never question townreads when they say something that looks weird to you? see why this doesn't matter yet? I wasn't trying to discredit you GB I was just finding it odd that's all  ##Unvote ##Vote Lightningstrike The bolded is bull shit I actually been trying to convince you on my case but instead I facing a brick wall from everyone but it prob because everyone thing I a Mason with Damdred it just me and Damdred work well together -_-. Wait, you're masoned with Damdred or not? I thought I answered it clearly but apparently you can't read it but here a even clear answer: No I not masoned with Damdred.
Calm down. I've already dropped the suspicions on you. I do these kind of questions on purpose.
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On June 18 2015 14:25 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 14:17 ritoky wrote:On June 18 2015 14:06 rsoultin wrote:On June 18 2015 14:01 ritoky wrote:On June 18 2015 13:55 rsoultin wrote:On June 18 2015 13:52 ritoky wrote: ugh i am in such a bad headspace right now. reading this thread making me angrier.  why so angry? real life shit and LS' posting. i am about to say some fucking anti-town shit and i don't give a fuck. unless LS gets to a place where i can town read him for the remainder of the game today or there is slam dunk mafia i am probably voting on him. and i actually somewhat believe his blue claim is real. the problem is the guy keeps spewing anti-town sentiment every time he posts, seriously....he is going to be left alive all fucking game on this question mark of a claim and every phase we are gonna do the "whooaaaa should i lynch him today? dance" and it will probably cost town the fucking game. oh an if you're gonna fucking claim masons with damdred instead of your named VT shit, just do it. you're not subtle in the slightest. since you already claimed blue, if you don't do it now never gonna believe that shit. the state of this game angers me because i think the two people playing the most anti-town are likely town and we are in terrible trouble. ls and wbg if i recall correctly? eh turning off that rsoul persona y'all know and love -coughs- i understand your anger, ritoky. the reason i have so much trouble turning off the growl is nothing irritates me more than terrible arguments of nothing when i'm trying to solve a game...but there are always going to be bad players and bad plays and what it comes down to is if you actually think/believe these players are town you're gonna just have to let it go, you know? lol there's a reason my reads are like so much better on the big names...whether or not they're just being bad usually isn't in question work with me to find the scum? and while you're at it, if you have a townread on wbg, can you please explain it? his push on me...blah...and i just reread ksc and it's like how does anyone come up with scum from that? @.@ i don't get it when y'all are treating wbg like he's actually good (and i know he caught scum last game) alright let's find a scum case good enough to make me not vote on LS. who's your town, let's compare lists. lol >< you're catching me in the middle of my filter dives so i think this may change suddenly so bear with me :/ currently you, fidei and ksc are my top towns just got finished diving shockey and i dunnae...maybe you wouldn't mind taking a look at his filter? it doesn't actually seem that bad like the push on damdy was when damdy gave pretty paintbrush reads after being asked to substantiate them, which i think is fairly justified...plus you know, he posts an entire list of everyone and then criticizes damdy for 3...to me that seems like maybe he thinks posting lists like that is the right thing for town to do lol >< not a townread but i don't think i really want to lynch him today anymore
WAIT I'M NOT TOP THREE WTFFFFFFFF
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This should be the lynch list to discuss today:
- Lohengramm - ShoCkeyy - Fidei86 - Breshke - Mig - VayneAuthority - boxerfred
Not in order.
Rsoultin and ritoky, is there anyone from here you don't want to lynch today?
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On June 18 2015 14:32 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 14:28 GlowingBear wrote:On June 18 2015 14:23 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 14:22 GlowingBear wrote:On June 18 2015 14:21 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 14:16 Breshke wrote:LS isn't even trying to convince me of his read on shockey or any other player which i feel he should think is more important than this. On June 18 2015 14:13 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 14:10 rsoultin wrote:On June 18 2015 14:03 GlowingBear wrote:On June 18 2015 13:57 rsoultin wrote: [quote]
dude haven't i already told you to let this go -_-
even if ls is scum this has no bearing on his alignment. stop quibbling over trivialities How come not? He saw an opportunity to discredit me and took it, even while townreading me. Tell me how a town would react this way. if he indeed was attempting to discredit you, sure xP but how do you know that's what he actually was doing? or how strong his townread on you is? do you never question townreads when they say something that looks weird to you? see why this doesn't matter yet? I wasn't trying to discredit you GB I was just finding it odd that's all  ##Unvote ##Vote Lightningstrike The bolded is bull shit I actually been trying to convince you on my case but instead I facing a brick wall from everyone but it prob because everyone thing I a Mason with Damdred it just me and Damdred work well together -_-. Wait, you're masoned with Damdred or not? I thought I answered it clearly but apparently you can't read it but here a even clear answer: No I not masoned with Damdred. Calm down. I've already dropped the suspicions on you. I do these kind of questions on purpose. I just feel frustrated with how people are treating me.
This is a game based on discussion and being suspicious of everybody. You're just not helping because you're doing suspicious things which is kinda invalidating your reads. Don't worry, tho. I may be WHARRGARBLing on you but I will protect you from harm on day1
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On June 18 2015 14:34 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 14:32 GlowingBear wrote: This should be the lynch list to discuss today:
- Lohengramm - ShoCkeyy - Fidei86 - Breshke - Mig - VayneAuthority - boxerfred
Not in order.
Rsoultin and ritoky, is there anyone from here you don't want to lynch today? the problem is that is a list of low post count/low hanging fruit in a lot of cases which means i am probably wrong somewhere, but w/e. breshke and fid would be the last 2 i lynch on that list atm, but if a case was made that was good i could be convinced.
Lost post count is exactly what made this list + some scummy things in some of the filters. Like, if I had to put in order form LYNCH NOW to DUNNO LOL, it would be something like this:
- Breshke - ShoCkeyy - Lohengramm - boxerfred - VayneAuthority - Mig - Fidei86
Yes, I totally flipped my read on Breshke
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On June 18 2015 14:38 ShoCkeyy wrote: GB give me your real thoughts on myself and LS, also what did you think of my push against LS? you were one of the few that I quoted.
I don't remember it.
I'll need to read your filter again.
I think you're scum based on imperfect meta. I remember being on your skin last game and you kept being very... how could I say... cool headed? And I'm not actually seeing this here.
LS has 8 pages of filter and I'm not lynching anyone like that day1
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TBH i prefer to lynch Lohengrann over shockey
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On June 18 2015 14:44 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 14:40 GlowingBear wrote: TBH i prefer to lynch Lohengrann over shockey Why is boxer so far down.
I can see him coming from town perspective, which makes me very uneasy on him.
I don't know, maybe I should rearrange the lynch list at some point, but that's basically it.
I just think we are too disorganised and that we should narrow the lynch discussion today.
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On June 18 2015 14:41 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 14:38 GlowingBear wrote:On June 18 2015 14:34 ritoky wrote:On June 18 2015 14:32 GlowingBear wrote: This should be the lynch list to discuss today:
- Lohengramm - ShoCkeyy - Fidei86 - Breshke - Mig - VayneAuthority - boxerfred
Not in order.
Rsoultin and ritoky, is there anyone from here you don't want to lynch today? the problem is that is a list of low post count/low hanging fruit in a lot of cases which means i am probably wrong somewhere, but w/e. breshke and fid would be the last 2 i lynch on that list atm, but if a case was made that was good i could be convinced. Lost post count is exactly what made this list + some scummy things in some of the filters. Like, if I had to put in order form LYNCH NOW to DUNNO LOL, it would be something like this: - Breshke - ShoCkeyy - Lohengramm - boxerfred - VayneAuthority - Mig - Fidei86 Yes, I totally flipped my read on Breshke then what do you make of this interaction in the nested quotes between me and breshke? Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 16:09 Breshke wrote:I also like this post for ritoky On June 17 2015 13:52 ritoky wrote:On June 17 2015 13:51 Breshke wrote:On June 17 2015 13:51 ritoky wrote:On June 17 2015 13:49 Breshke wrote:On June 17 2015 13:47 ritoky wrote:On June 17 2015 13:46 Breshke wrote:On June 17 2015 13:15 ritoky wrote:On June 17 2015 13:11 Breshke wrote: [quote]
I agree the shitfight is not helping town but I don't think it is alignment indicative. Even before they interacted i knew her and bugs would not get along no matter their alignment unless they were mafia together. That is like the only thing I got out of that shitfight the fact that they i think they can not be mafia together.
But yeah I don't think you should judge them on the shitfight because it is jsut their personalities and yeah its boring as fuck but it is because they are both stubborn. They both seem likely town to me now another reason the shitfight is boring as hell.
GB why are you sheeping HF? Wheres the townread come from you might have said but i missed it. What about each of their play outside of the shitfight gave you these town reads then? Bugs is very similar to last game and is acting exactly how i expect him too as town for example almost started going after nydus because he thought he was a smurf, continued to hunt for good players to try and get their opinions. I also liked the effort he out in when i asked him to dive damdred. Rsoul i wont count the most recent thing i said because that was after i posted that. I don't actually remember the reason I think it was a gut thing or because she was being difficult. have you ever played with bugs when he was mafia? No. I understand the failures of the read but I don't care So you're saying you have town reads on them outside of their fighting and the reasons are: -incomplete meta read -i don't remember ?????? wat? Yeah that sums it up fairly well. content wise this is such trash mafia crap. but tone wise your defiance gives me a town chub. fuck you for sending mixed signals. Because I think it would have been so easy for him to shit on me there but he didn't. also the extra lines at end of posts always make me want to robik read people.
I'm not really worried about his "meta read" on bugs. I can see him doing that as town too. What worries me, for example, as that he quickly defended me in the beginning of the game. I felt it was townie but now, after reevaluating it, I was scum last game and he was calling me town there. I think if he got an impression on how bugs plays the game based on the latest game they played together, he would be wary of me today. But he isn't.
Also there are these little not-very-alignment-indicative things in his filter but I you add them up, they gain scum-body.
I love neologism.
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RSOULTIN
What about the list I proposed? Anyone there that you don't want to lynch today?
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On June 18 2015 14:59 Holyflare wrote: I would absolutely add gb to any lynch list by the way, says he was going to do shit and then just afk'd and asked me questions about stuff that I've made very clear and then went the full route of hipster mafia saying my reasons for bf were bad and instead still thinks he's mafia for the first post in the game. Then he just picks at irrelevant shit repeatedly - ls, breshke etc
Tell me what is irrelevant on Breshke
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On June 18 2015 15:03 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 14:54 GlowingBear wrote: RSOULTIN
What about the list I proposed? Anyone there that you don't want to lynch today? i responded to that already i thought? regardless just posted my much shorter list
Well just saw it now 
it's like 3 am here, I'm kinda braindead atm.
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On June 18 2015 14:58 ritoky wrote: GB, any semblance of a read on VA? cuz he is kinda toward the middle of your ranking rather than "I DONT FUCKIN KNOW" territory.
I can't read VA I don't trust any of his reads. I don't see an actual attempt to solve the game in his filter.
But him being in the middle is because I have some kind very faint town read on people in the bottom.
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+ Show Spoiler [Lohengaranganarnagnganrarn Post] +On June 18 2015 09:57 Lohengramm wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 07:19 NydusHerMain wrote: "My fucking vt claim"
Just feels like really awkward phrasing. Doesn't feel genuine, kinda like he's missing a couple of words. I feel like this is pretty awful Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 07:25 NydusHerMain wrote: I don't like kelsier either. Stupid thing to go on rofl. I think that if I saw someone else post what I did I'd be like "great that doesn't really mean anything. Let's move on" haha at least he realizes he's awful Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 07:42 GlowingBear wrote: The SUPER AWESOME PRELIMINARY READS LIST REGARDING THE FIRST 3 PAGES OF THE THREAD
Probs town LS Nydus
Probs mafai Boxerfred Onegu
Yeah. This little. feels off the tone of his posting is to trollish. as town he seems more dickish and tryhard. no like. this is what I have so far you guys deal with it
You see, this guy has 6 posts. 5 are him saying that he will not read the thread LOL will read the thread now after I decide who to lynch LOL TROLLY TROLLY TROLLY
Then after 60 pages of thread he throws these faint suspicions on posts from the first 3 pages of thread and fucks off.
-.-
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On June 18 2015 15:14 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 15:06 GlowingBear wrote:On June 18 2015 14:58 ritoky wrote: GB, any semblance of a read on VA? cuz he is kinda toward the middle of your ranking rather than "I DONT FUCKIN KNOW" territory. I can't read VA I don't trust any of his reads. I don't see an actual attempt to solve the game in his filter. But him being in the middle is because I have some kind very faint town read on people in the bottom. Which would mean you have at least a town lean on everyone else not on the list right? So what happened to this guy to make you read him town? Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 11:51 GlowingBear wrote:Actual Listpost v1.0 Probs town- Holyflare (not posting + ninja vote on Bill Murray isn't a thing I see scumFlare comfortable at doing)
- Damdred (tone reading, looks like town, fluid posts)
- NydusHerMain(? need to keep an eye on him because when he got universally townread he stopped caring and just
- came back to comment on posts that cited him, which is mafia indicative)
- Kelsier (? need to keep an eye on him because he oddly tried to disrupt town while throwing suspicions on LS without actually trying to convince thread with strong arguments)
- ritoky (trolled but jumped on rsoultin as a clear reaction to thread direction, not a strong read but could me town
- Breshke (thinking critically about the game)
- LS (a lot of activity early game, enough to grant him a day1 pass IMO)
Null- rsoultin (not caring for her today)
- Bill Murray (could lynch pls)
- Bugs (some of his approach looks scummy, some others look townie - in other words, I like that he pushes rsoultin but I dislike his unawareness of the rest of the thread - last game he was reacting to mostly everything but here he is tunneling rsoultin, which is a very easy behaviour for scum to adopt)
- Fidei (meh)
- Mig (who?)
Probs Mafia- Onegu (unnecessary need to claim VT ESPECIALLY after he was scumread for not claiming VT in a previous game + meta: town onegu is lazy and I don't see him giving himself the trouble to going into another game to paste an opening where he claimed VT as town + Onegu prefers playing as scum and he was too excited for rolling VT, meanwhile in the other game he was extremely upset he rolled VT)
[*]boxerfred (opening is a joke post commenting another joke post and fucking off of the thread) boxerfred Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 13:47 GlowingBear wrote: My Day1 PoE lynchlist (from most preferred to least preferred target)
- Bill Murray - boxerfred - ShoCkeyy - VayneAuthority - Fidei86 - Mig - Onegu
Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 23:57 GlowingBear wrote:On June 17 2015 23:54 Onegu wrote: GB and NHM town : ))))) ##Vote: OneguWhat about the Onegu rule you are so excited with, that got scum twice in the latest two games you played?
I've reevaluated him later, he looks like town Onegu.
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On June 18 2015 15:13 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 15:04 GlowingBear wrote:On June 18 2015 14:59 Holyflare wrote: I would absolutely add gb to any lynch list by the way, says he was going to do shit and then just afk'd and asked me questions about stuff that I've made very clear and then went the full route of hipster mafia saying my reasons for bf were bad and instead still thinks he's mafia for the first post in the game. Then he just picks at irrelevant shit repeatedly - ls, breshke etc Tell me what is irrelevant on Breshke Nitpicking uselessly at breshke asking ls to explain himself more thoroughly and elaborate on more points. You asked him the most retarded question which just blatantly threw him off kilter from that line of thought WHILE TELLING LS THAT HE DOESN'T MAKE SENSE AND LOOKS SCUMMY. Like how on earth do you defend ls while saying he looks scummy while attacking the guy who is trying to make the scummy looking guy divulge more info. You don't unless you aren't thinking and are instead just saying things for the sake of saying them.
HF, LS has 8 pages of filter and he claimed a role. This is enough for me to give him a town pass. It's not because he is making scummy things that he is necessarily scum. Come on. You know that talkative people will have things to be picked on their filter regardless of alignment.
I'm not attacking Breshke because he was inquiring LS. I just reevaluated my read on him.
Do you think Breshke is town?
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On June 18 2015 15:16 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 15:16 GlowingBear wrote:On June 18 2015 15:14 ritoky wrote:On June 18 2015 15:06 GlowingBear wrote:On June 18 2015 14:58 ritoky wrote: GB, any semblance of a read on VA? cuz he is kinda toward the middle of your ranking rather than "I DONT FUCKIN KNOW" territory. I can't read VA I don't trust any of his reads. I don't see an actual attempt to solve the game in his filter. But him being in the middle is because I have some kind very faint town read on people in the bottom. Which would mean you have at least a town lean on everyone else not on the list right? So what happened to this guy to make you read him town? On June 17 2015 11:51 GlowingBear wrote:Actual Listpost v1.0 Probs town- Holyflare (not posting + ninja vote on Bill Murray isn't a thing I see scumFlare comfortable at doing)
- Damdred (tone reading, looks like town, fluid posts)
- NydusHerMain(? need to keep an eye on him because when he got universally townread he stopped caring and just
- came back to comment on posts that cited him, which is mafia indicative)
- Kelsier (? need to keep an eye on him because he oddly tried to disrupt town while throwing suspicions on LS without actually trying to convince thread with strong arguments)
- ritoky (trolled but jumped on rsoultin as a clear reaction to thread direction, not a strong read but could me town
- Breshke (thinking critically about the game)
- LS (a lot of activity early game, enough to grant him a day1 pass IMO)
Null- rsoultin (not caring for her today)
- Bill Murray (could lynch pls)
- Bugs (some of his approach looks scummy, some others look townie - in other words, I like that he pushes rsoultin but I dislike his unawareness of the rest of the thread - last game he was reacting to mostly everything but here he is tunneling rsoultin, which is a very easy behaviour for scum to adopt)
- Fidei (meh)
- Mig (who?)
Probs Mafia- Onegu (unnecessary need to claim VT ESPECIALLY after he was scumread for not claiming VT in a previous game + meta: town onegu is lazy and I don't see him giving himself the trouble to going into another game to paste an opening where he claimed VT as town + Onegu prefers playing as scum and he was too excited for rolling VT, meanwhile in the other game he was extremely upset he rolled VT)
[*]boxerfred (opening is a joke post commenting another joke post and fucking off of the thread) boxerfred On June 17 2015 13:47 GlowingBear wrote: My Day1 PoE lynchlist (from most preferred to least preferred target)
- Bill Murray - boxerfred - ShoCkeyy - VayneAuthority - Fidei86 - Mig - Onegu
On June 17 2015 23:57 GlowingBear wrote:On June 17 2015 23:54 Onegu wrote: GB and NHM town : ))))) ##Vote: OneguWhat about the Onegu rule you are so excited with, that got scum twice in the latest two games you played? I've reevaluated him later, he looks like town Onegu. Why does he look like town onegu?
Lazy, inactive, genuinely upset that he rolled VT.
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