On June 30 2015 03:07 Damdred wrote: Also its worth noting that the effort NHM is showing at this juncture makes me want to say hes town, the last time that he rolled scum and I was in the game with him he really just found someone he wantd to vote out and parked his vote and when it turned against him he showed up, but hes really pressuring hf here.
I think its a pretty good chance hes town still.
On top of that Nydus also had a 4 page filter in 4 Days and he gotten 11 pages and was around like 9-10 area at End of Day 4
On June 30 2015 03:10 Damdred wrote: Its a really tough game honestly, I'm like 99.9% sure that LS is town in this situation and I sort of hope hes scum just so I can be proud of him changing his meta in a way I didn't think he could.
FId is confirmed town
I know i'm town obviously.
This leaves me in a world where all I have to do is find town in Onegu, Shockey, HF, NHM and Rux. There are two towns and three mafia in this group.
Content wise HF could look ok, red check withstanding I still want some more of his thoughts around the GB lynch.
Oneg has 0 real content voted with his mafia read in lynching GB which was headed by confirmed mafia mig.
Shockey is sort of weird.
Rux could of carried a shot and got blocked or been shot, he seem to be trying to solve the game though that is true, but isn't really evolving his reads in a way.
On June 30 2015 03:10 Damdred wrote: Its a really tough game honestly, I'm like 99.9% sure that LS is town in this situation and I sort of hope hes scum just so I can be proud of him changing his meta in a way I didn't think he could.
FId is confirmed town
I know i'm town obviously.
This leaves me in a world where all I have to do is find town in Onegu, Shockey, HF, NHM and Rux. There are two towns and three mafia in this group.
Content wise HF could look ok, red check withstanding I still want some more of his thoughts around the GB lynch.
Oneg has 0 real content voted with his mafia read in lynching GB which was headed by confirmed mafia mig.
Shockey is sort of weird.
Rux could of carried a shot and got blocked or been shot, he seem to be trying to solve the game though that is true, but isn't really evolving his reads in a way.
Its a sort of a hard game at thi sjuncture though
What part of Shockeyy is weird?
I only asking this because I want your full thoughts on him that's all.
On June 29 2015 23:13 Holyflare wrote: Let's do a little exercise called actually playing the game of mafia.
If there were no such thing as a cop or red check in a normal game and everything you see points to someone being town and you think he is towny and has a lot of content then why on earth would you ever contemplate lynching that guy? The simple fact of the matter is that you wouldn't. This red check is clouding your actual judgement and making you forget how to play the game.
It's triple lylo and I'm not just going to sit back and let you get away with stuff like this. If I get lynched then we lose and it's on YOU. I absolutely will not accept the excuse post game that you got lazy and followed the red check despite thinking I was towny. I will look down on you as a player if that's how you play this game.
Nobody is interacting with me about nydus or any of the points or anything I'm raising (apart from nydus looool) and it's pathetic.
I think Nydus is most likely Town he had just rolled scum vs Damdred in Holy Guardians and he had 4 pages of filter plus he really just stuck to 1 thing parking votes more there compared to here.
On June 30 2015 03:07 Damdred wrote: Also its worth noting that the effort NHM is showing at this juncture makes me want to say hes town, the last time that he rolled scum and I was in the game with him he really just found someone he wantd to vote out and parked his vote and when it turned against him he showed up, but hes really pressuring hf here.
I think its a pretty good chance hes town still.
On top of that Nydus also had a 4 page filter in 4 Days and he gotten 11 pages and was around like 9-10 area at End of Day 4
I don't think its exactly fair to compare filter lengths in the two gams, one is a bit longer than the other.
So, in your world it would be
Ruxxor, HF, Shockey and Oneg as the last scum candidates yea? Which one is town ls
Again it goes back my question regarding the Night Phase because VA said he blocked rux's slot Night 1 and Mig said something about it idk I felt like the slot is town but I could be wrong.
Sorry I just got home from playing Pokemon TCG(Forgot to tell you guys that I was going out but I also did stayed longer than normal so meh) but honestly I willing to lynch Onegu and Shockeyy for certain but the question is who should we lynch first?
Okay I think maybe our best lynch is to lynch Shockeyy and here's why: Onegu is known to be terrible as town and his tunnel on me is kinda like he did in Assassination where I lynched him out of spite if I recalled correctly. Also I think it was Rux who made a case on Shockeyy which pretty much summed up what I been saying a little about Shockeyy. Even though Shockeyy had posted more this game than all his games in the database this is also a very large post number game so it could be inflated because of it. Also since all of the people who were night killed did scumread Shockeyy that could be a reason as to why they were killed other than VA being the claimed Jailkeeper(Like seriously why did scum decided to kill Rsoultin over a claimed Jailkeeper that was bad play by scum seriously -_-). I will lay my hammer on Shockeyy today. ##Vote: ShoCkeyy
rux since you scumread Shockeyy why not vote him with me right now? Pretty much all of the Night Killed Townies were scumreading him before they got killed including VA who shoulda been a auto kill on any team I think because VA did hard claimed Jailkeeper.
On July 01 2015 01:38 LightningStrike wrote: Okay I think maybe our best lynch is to lynch Shockeyy and here's why: Onegu is known to be terrible as town and his tunnel on me is kinda like he did in Assassination where I lynched him out of spite if I recalled correctly. Also I think it was Rux who made a case on Shockeyy which pretty much summed up what I been saying a little about Shockeyy. Even though Shockeyy had posted more this game than all his games in the database this is also a very large post number game so it could be inflated because of it. Also since all of the people who were night killed did scumread Shockeyy that could be a reason as to why they were killed other than VA being the claimed Jailkeeper(Like seriously why did scum decided to kill Rsoultin over a claimed Jailkeeper that was bad play by scum seriously -_-). I will lay my hammer on Shockeyy today. ##Vote: ShoCkeyy
I don't like the fact that you're basing your townread on onegu off meta. I tried using that approach in my last game and it only ended up shooting me in the foot.
I'd rather lynch onegu than shockey at this point, but I feel better about a shockey lynch than a HF lynch. At least shockey showed up at said a couple words, even though I find it lackluster.
I want onegu to show up and defend himself so that I'll get convinced that he's a worse lynch than Shockey. If he doesn't show up I'll take that as an admission of guilt and hope to vote him out as #1 scum.
Why don't you join me in pressuring onegu to defend himself?
I not really town reading I was just saying what I remember based both reputation and past games I had played with him.
On July 01 2015 01:38 LightningStrike wrote: Okay I think maybe our best lynch is to lynch Shockeyy and here's why: Onegu is known to be terrible as town and his tunnel on me is kinda like he did in Assassination where I lynched him out of spite if I recalled correctly. Also I think it was Rux who made a case on Shockeyy which pretty much summed up what I been saying a little about Shockeyy. Even though Shockeyy had posted more this game than all his games in the database this is also a very large post number game so it could be inflated because of it. Also since all of the people who were night killed did scumread Shockeyy that could be a reason as to why they were killed other than VA being the claimed Jailkeeper(Like seriously why did scum decided to kill Rsoultin over a claimed Jailkeeper that was bad play by scum seriously -_-). I will lay my hammer on Shockeyy today. ##Vote: ShoCkeyy
I don't like the fact that you're basing your townread on onegu off meta. I tried using that approach in my last game and it only ended up shooting me in the foot.
I'd rather lynch onegu than shockey at this point, but I feel better about a shockey lynch than a HF lynch. At least shockey showed up at said a couple words, even though I find it lackluster.
I want onegu to show up and defend himself so that I'll get convinced that he's a worse lynch than Shockey. If he doesn't show up I'll take that as an admission of guilt and hope to vote him out as #1 scum.
Why don't you join me in pressuring onegu to defend himself?
I not really town reading I was just saying what I remember based both reputation and past games I had played with him.
Also Onegu at least showed up better than Shockey I feel.
On July 01 2015 02:14 NydusHerMain wrote: Yeah I dunno Fidei... I feel most comfortable lynching shockey as much as I say that HF should die off red check
On July 01 2015 02:23 Fidei86 wrote: Also, for the post-game cred, I'm going to go for the scum team of HF, Damdred and Shockkey. Rsoult had Ruxx rather than Damdred as the fourth scum, but I'm seeing a Damdred deflect of HF combined with his generally shoddy play this game (in contrast to last game, where he was really strong).
This is my post-game cred for today if we don't lose (yes I know I called HF town). Watch LS + HF be mafia.
On July 01 2015 01:38 LightningStrike wrote: Okay I think maybe our best lynch is to lynch Shockeyy and here's why: Onegu is known to be terrible as town and his tunnel on me is kinda like he did in Assassination where I lynched him out of spite if I recalled correctly. Also I think it was Rux who made a case on Shockeyy which pretty much summed up what I been saying a little about Shockeyy. Even though Shockeyy had posted more this game than all his games in the database this is also a very large post number game so it could be inflated because of it. Also since all of the people who were night killed did scumread Shockeyy that could be a reason as to why they were killed other than VA being the claimed Jailkeeper(Like seriously why did scum decided to kill Rsoultin over a claimed Jailkeeper that was bad play by scum seriously -_-). I will lay my hammer on Shockeyy today. ##Vote: ShoCkeyy
I don't like the fact that you're basing your townread on onegu off meta. I tried using that approach in my last game and it only ended up shooting me in the foot.
I'd rather lynch onegu than shockey at this point, but I feel better about a shockey lynch than a HF lynch. At least shockey showed up at said a couple words, even though I find it lackluster.
I want onegu to show up and defend himself so that I'll get convinced that he's a worse lynch than Shockey. If he doesn't show up I'll take that as an admission of guilt and hope to vote him out as #1 scum.
Why don't you join me in pressuring onegu to defend himself?
I not really town reading I was just saying what I remember based both reputation and past games I had played with him.
And maybe he's using this tactic again to make you think he's town? I mean, if you are mafia, what are the first thing you will try to do? You will try to play the same was as you did when you were town. So people will think, oh he played this way when he was town, now he's playing the same way == he must be town!. This is like the most basic way and easiest trick for mafia to look like town, and is why I don't like using meta for things like this.
You can't just say "Oh he played terrible in this other game, it's fine that he's playing terrible here too!". NO It's not fine to play terrible here even if you played terrible as town in another game. You need to step up and do your best. If you're not trying to help town win then I don't care about how towny your meta makes you look.
You're playing anti-town and you're not helping us win!
Again I don't think he's exactly town but he a pretty capable scum player though so(Shrugs).
On July 01 2015 02:29 Fidei86 wrote: BTW if Shockey flips town and HF flips scum, you are all going to feel sooooo stupid that you let him argue you out of a red check.
If Shockeyy flips scum we can still possibly lynch him later but not today.
On July 01 2015 02:32 Fidei86 wrote: So basically I'm at:
Town: Ruxx LS Me
Scum: HF Shock
Meh: Damdred Onegu
I'm going with Damdred over Onegu because Onegu is useless in every game, whereas Damdred was specifically very helpful in his last game, and has been rubbish in this game.
On July 01 2015 05:20 ShoCkeyy wrote: LS if you're not mafia, then why vote for me? You still haven't given a good reason why to vote for me? All you're doing is voting for a town. You vote for me and it's an auto lose. Why not vote for obvious mafia unless you're mafia too?
I sheeping the dead plus rux's case pretty much summed what I had thought of you throughout the game. If you're town I sorry that you get lynched but if you're scum at least I can still win since I'm Town.
On July 01 2015 05:20 ShoCkeyy wrote: LS if you're not mafia, then why vote for me? You still haven't given a good reason why to vote for me? All you're doing is voting for a town. You vote for me and it's an auto lose. Why not vote for obvious mafia unless you're mafia too?
I sheeping the dead plus rux's case pretty much summed what I had thought of you throughout the game. If you're town I sorry that you get lynched but if you're scum at least I can still win since I'm Town.
you should be lynching onegu with me
I can see him being town but he also appears really scummy though based on our past together. Also the dead too that were NK'd said to lynch Shockeyy(Including VA)
On July 01 2015 05:20 ShoCkeyy wrote: LS if you're not mafia, then why vote for me? You still haven't given a good reason why to vote for me? All you're doing is voting for a town. You vote for me and it's an auto lose. Why not vote for obvious mafia unless you're mafia too?
I sheeping the dead plus rux's case pretty much summed what I had thought of you throughout the game. If you're town I sorry that you get lynched but if you're scum at least I can still win since I'm Town.
So you're following others because you can't form your own opinion? Good job. Now I know to never play with you again. Thanks, you're terrible at this game unless you're mafia, then you're not that bad by playing dumb the whole game.
I had already you were Mafia beforehand? Look rux pretty much summed up what I had said about you and sometimes I look at the dead for reasons why they could be NK'd since it's LYLO and we didn't have a clear lynch. Ofc they all had scumread you the night they died I know it's WIFOM but it all matches up to you.
On July 01 2015 05:20 ShoCkeyy wrote: LS if you're not mafia, then why vote for me? You still haven't given a good reason why to vote for me? All you're doing is voting for a town. You vote for me and it's an auto lose. Why not vote for obvious mafia unless you're mafia too?
I sheeping the dead plus rux's case pretty much summed what I had thought of you throughout the game. If you're town I sorry that you get lynched but if you're scum at least I can still win since I'm Town.
So you're following others because you can't form your own opinion? Good job. Now I know to never play with you again. Thanks, you're terrible at this game unless you're mafia, then you're not that bad by playing dumb the whole game.
I had already you were Mafia beforehand? Look rux pretty much summed up what I had said about you and sometimes I look at the dead for reasons why they could be NK'd since it's LYLO and we didn't have a clear lynch. Ofc they all had scumread you the night they died I know it's WIFOM but it all matches up to you.
Dude you posted reasons for shockeyy not to be mafia a million times about how his past games were completely different and you've just afk'd the entire game basically and sheeped other people's opinions. Did you even read my case on onegu just now? YOu KNOW how awful it is to sheep dead people too and if you did want to do that all of the dead people in this game said that onegu could be mafia.
Ugh I said I couldn't tell on meta? I already had checked his past games I came to a conclusion that I couldn't tell a difference between his scum play and Town play on posts alone -_-. Also the ones who were NK'd were mixed on Onegu some said he was town some said he was scum.