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Seens like n00bking was right after all.
I'll just leave this here:
On June 13 2015 15:07 n00bKing wrote:
Situation: 11 players have votes in place, and 2 players are not voting. All 11 of the votes are on either batsnacks or Sulfurus. No one has a vote on anyone else.
At this stage of a Day 1, I'm more used to seeing a smattering of votes on some other miscellaneous players too. Maybe partially because the scum team doesn't want to have all their votes in one place, so they fan out some (and maybe a random Townie or two gets tunneled on their respective targets, and won't budge, even though no one else has any interest in following along).
Theory: This situation makes it pretty likely that one of the two players receiving votes is actually scum, and that we don't have a Town vs. Town situation for our two vote leaders. The scum team has not been able to fan out their votes, because they've needed "all hands on deck" to make sure that the scum player doesn't take a runaway lead in the voting.
Conclusion: Even though there's a lot of time left in the Phase, we may not want to introduce a third lynch target, and should instead stick to trying to pick between these two (since, if the Theory is correct, one of them would flip Red).
Thoughts? Does the Theory seem reasonable, or is the Situation more likely just an odd coincidence?
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I'm going to re-read some more filters but did some filter find scans of each interaction and I'm thinking Sulfurus/Ruxxar/Oats at the moment.
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On June 17 2015 08:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm not buying it until you explain why scott31337 went for Sulfurus early in the thread until now.
You're right.
When i look at Scotts voting patterns it doesn't make sense, since he even voted for Rels.
Yup Scott is town and Rels is mafia.
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What do you think about Oatsmaster?
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I really dont think anyone should be given a townread for that lynch without kickstart flipping.
Sulph looked really bad the whole game, it might just have been a bus.
Also, both sulph and kickstart expressed an interest in lynching me.
Which is really weird.
Scott switched really late, like 10 minutes before the deadline and you guys are calling him town?!??
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From how much I misjudged sulfur I would say that he'd never vote for his teammate.
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On June 17 2015 08:29 scott31337 wrote:
I'm going to re-read some more filters but did some filter find scans of each interaction and I'm thinking Sulfurus/Ruxxar/Oats at the moment.
really, why am I on a team with sulf?
Come on, make up something.
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My head is very flipfloppity right now, so I'm making comments as ideas pop into my head.
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I want peoples opinions on sulfurs last read list.
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Here comes oats to do nothing but create chaos. Why don't you do something towny and hunt scum? Or will you not because you are scum and just took a huge blow in losing sulf? Like why would you come in after this really good lynch for town and first thing you say is "I dont think we should town read anyone based on this lynch", like LOL are you even serious. Now you look to be trying to create some world where I and sulfurus were scum buddies which is just too ridiculous to warrant me arguing against.
Oats like nothing you have done seems to be from a town point of view and then you come in with this bullshit after a good lynch for us. Like you are the only person in the world who would argue that no one looks townie from that flip.
Oats is such scum here. But also, its night phase you don't vote yet you nerds.
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There isn't much point in going into sulfs list post before his flip, everyone will just WIFOM it to death and there is no way we can figure out what to make of it. In my opinion he listed people who were obviously pretty much universally town read (moosey and bats), listed me who was going to look real town after he flips red, and then oats his scum buddy to try and throw him into a list of greens after his lynch. People will disagree and like I said its just going to be a WIFOM debate which isn't very productive.
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Assuming he was very likely to be lynched, he must've known it would make eels look bad.
However he's kept that town read on rels the whole game.
I'm inclined to just face palm and say he put his mafia friend as top town read.
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Ruxxar of all the thing to analyze from this day that post is literally the last thing on the list.
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On June 17 2015 08:46 ruXxar wrote:
I want peoples opinions on sulfurs last read list.
It doesn't mean shit.
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On June 17 2015 08:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
I really dont think anyone should be given a townread for that lynch without kickstart flipping.
Sulph looked really bad the whole game, it might just have been a bus.
Also, both sulph and kickstart expressed an interest in lynching me.
Which is really weird.
Scott switched really late, like 10 minutes before the deadline and you guys are calling him town?!??
I picked up on some anomalies with Scott which I pointed out earlier, but he did vote for slug day 1 where it was a close race.
He also jumped on trfels rels read, much to the dismay of sulfur if you recall.
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Sulf* god damn iPhone crap.
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Hmm. Surely not all 3 mafia were on me. I hate it when people use the "that is too obviously scum for them to be scum", but I mean holy shit all the people I was suspicious of stuck with the vote on me and most of my town reads went onto sulfurus. Game too ez and mafia done goofed in trying to lynch me so hard or???
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I mean I guess as either alignment Oats would need to come in after this lynch and try to say that he isnt as scummy over this lynch as I tend to think but then the part that no one comes out of this looking more townie is just wrong and weird from town perspective. Like if you are town this is easily the event that gives us the most information but oats comes in and says "hey guys we can't really get any information from this flip". To me this doesn't at all show an interest in solving things or figuring them out or anything, it looks like an attempt to create doubt and seems like something scum would try to do to downplay the events. Even as a town who looks bad after this event you would still surely look at what happened and be able to put a few people higher up on your town list but he just comes in and says nope we got no info from this. Makes no sense to me.
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Why do you think he wanted to stop the train on you so badly?
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EPT
