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On May 28 2015 22:02 Tictock wrote: Humm, what was your thinking blocking Bara? You've been clearly scumming me since much earlier than N2, why didn't you block me? No I didn't, you remember the post where I ask bunny to go out and give her gut read and said I thought you were town? It was just when batsnacks claimed cop along with all his checks that I slowly crept on the thought that you are scum. And the town elimination thing just supports this: Bats = cops Bunny = town Barakos = town plotspot = RB Breshke = Mason disformation = town boxerfred = Mason --- there are two people left = you and Sulfurus. I rechecked the filters and you it would fit that you and Sulfu and scott are scum trio. | ||
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On May 28 2015 09:48 Sulfurus wrote: @Batsnacks How do you know Bunnies is not the GF? I will explain how this post will reveal Sulfurus as Mafia, and basically supports my case without the Tictock interaction. Sulfurus posted that question after clueless Batsnacks and disformation are hysterical about there being another Mafia RB. The right question would have been "How do you know Bunnies and Barakos are not the GF"? In her mind it was 100% technically perfect that Barakos cannot be mafia. She assumes that Batsnacks believed this lie. The truth his however it is totally possible for Barakos to be Godfather with the Town RB setup. He just automatically reads him town because he is mafia. | ||
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On May 28 2015 13:43 Tictock wrote: Ok I skimmed from EoN till now, there's a lot to think about and some stuff I want to look into. First things first, farewell to Breshke one of our town masons. 2nd off, I really don't think town RB should claim, maybe I'm wrong here but wouldn't Town RB be the strongest role in a cop, mason, RB town setup? Town RB claiming will make them a sure fire target tonight, seems to me town RB will want to hold off claiming as long as possible to avoid being NK'd and allowing potential blocks of NKs. Masons seem like a weakish role. I don't see much reason why the remaining mason shouldn't claim as it will help confirm one more town. I notice SL and Dis are expecting me to claim mason. Honestly though, I feel like if I were a role wouldn't I be in the best position to not claim? Like most people are reading me as town anyway, if I were to claim a role it wouldn't really narrow things down at the moment. Also, why the hell is plots trying to No Lynch? and here On May 28 2015 13:57 Tictock wrote: I'm clearly very bad at role speculating + Show Spoiler + carried away by SK nonsense, that is clearly false now Ok we have Bre as the only confirmed role since he flipped mason. There is a strong possibility of a town role blocker, but I don't see why it would be impossible for mafia to have 2 RBs it's not very likely but I don't want to rule it out just yet. Bats claiming Cop is interesting, and it makes sense with how he's been playing. However, there is the (admittedly slim) possibility of Bats and 27nb being scum partners and them pushing inactives for their 3 needed mislynches. Also, if we assume that town has Masons, a Cop, and a RB it seems VERY likely that mafia would have a GF and means we can't trust the cop checks 100%. I know I'm getting a bit WIFOM here, but this is what is running through my head and are all things town needs to keep in mind. Town really needs to lynch Scum today because we are starting to loose our ground so I just want us to really think through the options now. | ||
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On May 28 2015 22:25 disformation wrote: trying to discredit some people unlikely to buy your story? cute. I'm supporting you guys here, it's naturally that you are confused whether there is a Mafia RB or not. I'm a Town RB, it's impossible. I'm not discrediting you, the way you have been reinforces that you are town. You even made a big case trying to solve the game. | ||
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Even today in the morning when interacted a bit with him, all he calls me is "you're a bad townie" like he has basically read me town. I promise you if there was any slight chance I was not confirmed 99% town he would have used quite some different words. At that time Mafia was still clueless remember? They wanted to establish confusion that there was a possible 2nd Mafia RB, but if they wanted to hold up this theory they would have to 100% read me town, just like Tictock does. Now he finds some support and manages to swing the votes on me. Sulfurus is safe, never to be mentioned again, or only in weak-ass push attempt I betcha. | ||
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On May 28 2015 22:37 Tictock wrote: I would have held to this thinking as well, but once the role speculation started to get too out of hand I realized it was in fact doing town more harm than good. And thanks to a thing known as "a flip" Bre is in fact the only confirmed blue role at this moment in the game. It's up to town to decide if the people claiming roles have been acting in line with that role, and to sniff out any fake claims that have inconsistencies. I think he still missed my question. PLOTSPOT!! The "him" = Barakos I couldn't read him that well. While I said he was town earlier, I had my doubts internally and not published. I wonder why batsnacks thought the same? | ||
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If Sulfurus flips green feel free to lynch me next, because obviously then I haven't got the game solved and wasted all your time. Do we have a deal? | ||
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On May 28 2015 22:58 disformation wrote: That is basically the only mention of barakos in your filter... Why the fuck would you roleblock a null/town read over a scum read? I'm sorry I confused you disformation. Yes I town read him there, but I observed something about him that raised my suspicion, but since I am Town RB I may not always post what I find suspicious next just to RB it. It may give away my that I'm the RB. You see I was terrified that Mafia would discover me on the account of this post about Rels here right after she died: On May 25 2015 07:10 plotspot wrote: How do you know Rels wasn't Vig shot? I was about to make a case on scumreading him hard for the following points I prepared: Rels: referring too much to others opinion, reading thread very carefully, the way RELS sets up lynch is also very comfortable (like lynch inactives), giving orders to others, thanks my post but posts no further thoughts, in comparison to Disinformation who displays overall anxiety in his reads and thoughts, Rels looks like he can handle any sudden change, there is nothing clouding his mind, others apparently have to do more than Rels, you bet if I was Vig I would have shot her. If for some reason Mafia thought:"who the fuck would RB this guy? Like who, wait a minute: Maybe he blocked himself to establish a story? That would look so bad. Why would he waste a block on himself? Hey maybe he blocked Rels. Yeah that's it he scumread her after she died remember? He even said he would have shot her if he was Vig. So if this guy is RB he would definitely have blocked her. Now that she is dead, no one can tell if he lied or not, but he establishes himself as town. Hehe; this guy is so dead" Ok I'm sorry for all the mucus earlier. I apologize for my bad behavior. I shouldn't have done this. It was just I work for it all night and posted what I thought was the solution for us at 4:00 am (4hours after D3). You guys don't believe I am the RB and blocked Barakos? I can even semi-prove it, but I'd rather not as it gives away some info for possible future mafia. Please allow me some secrecy in that regard. | ||
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On May 28 2015 23:00 Barakos wrote: We'll not have to wait till next lynch... I am pretty sure, boxerfred will enter the thread, not cc and your whole "sulfurus, tictock"-theory will come crushing down. even if he counterclaims, all my money is on bf being the fakeclaim... the reason for this just being his excitement of finally finding a bluerole last night, when he thought it breshke softclaimed cop. Tictock being breshkes masonpartner is the far more believable option. Okay, I see it now. That might be the case. Maybe I was just tunneling to hard on the Sulfurus tictock theory and saw it as perfect. We wait what boxerfred says, I can agree to it. I'm definitely the Town RB. | ||
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Tictock Mason plotspot RB disformation VT 27ninjabunnies VT sicklucker VT batsnacks Cop Barakos VT --- wouldn't that leave: Sulfurus and boxerfred left as Mafia? | ||
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On May 28 2015 23:33 disformation wrote: Well, Sulfurus and boxerfred being mafia would align with my huge wall post. Opposing to ticktoc I read you willing to die for the lynch on Sulfurus as rather towny. The misslip is a good point actually enough. *Sigh* I'm not making stuff up guys. I admit in shame that I tunneled Tictock hard, and that it is totally possible to swap him with boxerfred now, which I slowly see as the more reasonable choice, because if boxerfred was Mason and lurking why the hell did he not just finish it with one blow, by CCing. But my points on Sulfurus stays. Hence I'd vote for Sulfurus and think we will mostly like get a red flip here ##VOTE:SULFURUS | ||
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