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plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 29 2015 21:59 GMT
#1939
if you lynch someone who is not checked, we can use bats to check on someone else. It's just safe elimination.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 29 2015 22:00 GMT
#1942
If we lynch bunnies, bats has to check one more person for us to be sure about the setup. That's just what it is.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 29 2015 22:37 GMT
#1951
they will kill bats, that's for sure, and then they will try to lynch me. It's ok, I said I'd be fine with that if Sulfurus was town. This is a depressing game.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 29 2015 22:47 GMT
#1955
For all I know even SL could be mafia here. So who even guarantees, like Spott spewed me town, than BM town. It's not automatically that SL is also town with that logic. SL has so many things that points to him being town. But he is like so crazy that I think he's certainly capable of doing this as mafia.
Or even freakin Barakos, still has the possibility of being GF, although making very towny posts today. The difference between Barakos and Tictock is just that Barakos is logically safe while Tictock isn't. So like he is totally capable of looking the most townish, just based on on Tictock's fallacy. Tictock might be really just frustrated and didn't care about mechanically safe play regarding myself.
Barakos, the whole way he summarizes his points in clear logic. This guy is just very intelligent, totally capable of playing GF like that.
Just me wondering about technical possibilities. They could also just be townie. Idk.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 29 2015 22:54 GMT
#1956
Like for example I pick these two posts from SL

On May 30 2015 07:38 sicklucker wrote:
plots dont roleblock who he says. Theres 2 mafia if they know who your roleblocking its pointless. Pick like the 3or 4 scummiest players and rng it


On May 30 2015 07:45 sicklucker wrote:
acualy plots if your around like 10 minutes before the end of the night, I might have a good suggestion on who to roleblock that will seal town the win. But if i say it now mafia will just change who delivers it.


If I believe he is town, than everything is ok. But if I think he is scum: then it's like he is here appearing townish by giving the RB some good tactics. The second is just some random shit that makes me pay attention to something that doesn't exist logically, he wants me to block one of the guys 10 minutes from before the game. Obvious townies so that I waste my RB.
Like how do I differentiate that?
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 29 2015 23:03 GMT
#1957
Or even disformation, I think can read him pretty well, but what I do know? He might just be some kind of mastermind, that surfs well through interactions. While he posts smileys and stuff, he could actually be perfectly stoic behind his PC, never missing a beat. LOL Idk.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 29 2015 23:25 GMT
#1960
I think it's kinda funny how at night everyone is friendly with eachother. And on day it's just about: you are fucking scum for this, for that. If I wasn't the RB I believed I'd be dead by now. I shouldn't have been so fucking sure of myself, which got me into problems and reveal my role. I think this is what I've learned from this game here at least. Like never ever.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 29 2015 23:29 GMT
#1961
On May 30 2015 08:23 boxerfred wrote:
Plots, please don't go down this road.

"They could also just be townie. Idk." after a big paragraph on Barakos/Tictocs? Not helpful at all, more like "here are some random thoughts but they can be wrong". Leave it then. Same goes for "He might just be some kind of mastermind, that surfs well through interactions. While he posts smileys and stuff, he could actually be perfectly stoic behind his PC, never missing a beat. LOL Idk."

I'm not sure if I should interprate those posts as..

a) ..scum alignment: after confusing the shit out of town last day, you now want to confuse them even more since you had success with a town flip lynch or..
b) ..town alignment: after having a huge, seemingly flawless theory and solved the game proven wrong, you're a bit in a sad mood and see your efforts going down the drain.

I tend to b). Just go to sleep, re-order your thoughts and theories, re-target your efforts on whoever you think is most scum-ly to you, and do your best to clear things up.

In any case, I'd like you to stop those "well idk can be everyone at everything" posts. You'll end up with saying "lel batsnacks no cop" while pretty much everything by now relies on him and his claim.


That's exactly what I mean. You make so much sense now, totally unlike day.^^ LOL. This game. Yeah ok, I'll go to sleep soon.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 29 2015 23:35 GMT
#1964
yeah how do we secretly communicate this, I dont have so much time, only 22:25h left.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 29 2015 23:41 GMT
#1965
lol give me a riddle, I may be able to solve it, but it has to be something mafia can't solve
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 29 2015 23:47 GMT
#1968
like I don't know SL if you have two sure mafias, than it's 50% 50% but town will win anyway. My actions don't matter than.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 29 2015 23:48 GMT
#1969
How about using some ... *cough 27 cough* things like that?^^
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 30 2015 00:14 GMT
#1970
I don't know I don't get it, I just RB the one I think is the most townish. Maybe that would actually work.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 30 2015 00:15 GMT
#1971
I have a 12.5% chance to get it right.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 30 2015 00:27 GMT
#1972
So who is the most townish? Is Tictock really Mason? Do we really have a Cop, 2xMason, RB setup? Is there a technically sure way of finding that out, other than Breshke left no hint? Was Breshke really sure he would die that night? If any of you guys can explain to me why Tictock is really a Mason, that would help me personally a big deal, just to eliminate one from the list of targets.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 30 2015 00:28 GMT
#1973
Whoever writes next gets RB from me. Good night.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 30 2015 11:51 GMT
#1987
yeah I'm sorry I pressured you for this. Did you really flip a coin for that?
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 30 2015 11:53 GMT
#1988
I don't know I wont be so active today. The game it feels like there's less and less to talk about really, and I'm running with a heavy cloud around.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 30 2015 21:51 GMT
#1993
Okay here is the case, it will come down to these two players. I have no clue. They are like the yin and yang of what I think as opposed to what everybody else thinks.

Tictock: like virtually everybody reads this guy town, and that not only based on his Mason claim. For this claim we only have as a clue because Breshke didn’t leave a clue. I was wondering why Breshke never did that, as opposed to only say “only one” or something before his demise. Could Breshke have thought “it doesn’t matter, when there is another blue role, then it can only mean that I am the only Mason, town will figure it out, I won’t risk giving things away, if there is still a chance left I didn’t die and still could hide our setup.”? Supporting this is the relentless will of Tictock to go against me, even beyond the logic of what a townie would do, when everything has been detailed out. It’s just INSANE. I know why others might think I could be technically still Mafia, but since I know am not this, this even makes more sense that he is actually scum. What did I miss here?

Bunnies: then we have bunnies, who almost everybody thought was scum, where I thought she was just lazy, plus the green-check mechanics gave her an 84% chance of being town than scum (I was wrong yesterday when I thought it was only 80%). Like today it is, 80% when we take into consideration that boxerfred, disformation, SL and Barakos are also in the pool. Usually this is the theory, but does math really help here? Even the math falls, when I start to read 3 of the remaining 4 players town, because it’s IMPOSSIBLE of all of them to be mafia. So what? it reduces it down to 50-60% still. If I RB her, there is a chance we establish her as town, at least more than when she was not RBed in comparison to any players I haven’t RB yet.

I think that’s it, everything else is purely WIFOM in a setup where I increase my chances from maybe 15% to 25% if I think hard enough to spin this thing. Is it really worth it? I think it fits that I select two players on the extremities of my thinking versus that of what others think. Nothing in between, so if you guys have anything to suggest concerning these two that is able to push my one decision over my other, please do so right now. We still have some time left.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 30 2015 21:57 GMT
#1995
I'm not even sure about you SL, you are in the middle of all this, this could all be your grand scheme of persuasion.
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