EPTi dislike hts because she is having opposite reactions to them.
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i dislike hts because she is having opposite reactions to them. | ||
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stutters is also declining rapidly at this point. place them both on the lynchable list. | ||
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On May 05 2015 01:33 -Celestial- wrote: Stutters CLAIMS that he doesn't really do day 1. Given that we have a couple of high potential lynch targets already I'm okay with not lynching him day 1 for that but I'm expecting huge things for day 2 as a result. yes but even though i think scott is probably scum based on his play, i have an doubt and mechanics as to why i want another target. the doubt is simple: literal 0 people have defended him. when 0 people defend some1 they are either slam dunk mafia or they are town and mafia is pulling wool over eyes. the mechanics of why i want a 2nd target are that voting logic is a strong indicator of alignment, ESPECIALLY in newbie games. if every1 votes scott, regardless of his alignment when he flips. we end the day with shit vote logic info. i don't want that. | ||
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On May 04 2015 19:40 Tictock wrote: I'm having a hard time deciding who I want to vote for as well. Scott is still the most appealing case, even though I have some doubts. I'm tempted to make a case against prp but there just isn't enough to go on. I just don't like his dismissive post regarding how he "spams town" normally and says he isn't around. If he is legit too busy to play a town would likely replace, this seems more like a scum excuse to skate by day 1. Unfortunately that's all I have as prp, as well as several other ppl, just aren't active enough to make real reads on. this post strikes me as odd...he is having a hard time deciding who to vote for, yet he thinks 1 guy is scum and the other guy is inactive and that's his two top scum reads? seems like not a hard decision there. i don't really understand where his hesitancy is coming from here. | ||
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On May 05 2015 04:34 The Shining wrote: I do. I thought I scummed him somewhere for it, I might not have posted it, though. He claimed to have read my past games but I'm not sure I believe him, unless it was "these posts look about the same size and posted the same, good enough." He claimed my filter here looked those town filters. If that were the case, he'd know I opened this game exactly like my last town game. Name 3 random ppl who have alrdy posted, call them scumteam, gg. He'd also know literally any time I've been scummed, I defend myself tooth and nail. So scumming me for being bitter and sardonic when he's the reason I'm bitter(scumming me over an HtS slip that was clearly in her filter) instead of looking at it objectively just looks like trying to push me. It felt more to me like he asked for those games, skimmed 1 or 2, claimed to read them for town cred(what scum would read games to figure out meta? they know alignments) and then let it go. i read your filters too, and didn't think superbia was that far off. he was a bit hyperbolic at points, but i certainly understood the perspective. had he done quotes and whatnot i woulda been over the moon town on him. it is surprising to me that you give effort reads to certain people, but not to others. i don't really know what to make of it right now. i can't tell if you're just really inconsistent or if it is my desire to lynch you creeping into my head. | ||
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On May 05 2015 04:39 The Shining wrote: So if he doesn't know these things I've mentioned, how would he know I'm more relaxed and jokey as town? You either did read or didn't read. And if you only skimmed and have partial information i.e. reading only my entrances instead of skimming through different phases, how could you be confident enough to scum me for it? because self perception is not always what others perceive. for example i have rolled scum in games, posted in the game and been like "i am town jesus here" and literal 0 people read me town. i have also rolled scum, thought i was shit and got universally town read. my point is that some of what he read and mentioned from your filters i also read. i also think the simple effort of reading someone's past game filters is more town indicative; it is a waste of effort on d1 as scum. | ||
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On May 05 2015 04:40 The Shining wrote: Effort read? effort reads are things like x is town cuz he is posting a lot, reading shit, considering things, asking questions, and such similar things. | ||
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On May 05 2015 04:45 The Shining wrote: Then maybe I'm in a tunnel. It doesn't matter. Super isn't getting lynched today and unless you or he pushes me, neither am I. This is the 2nd time in as many days I've been forced to defend/talk about Superbia and his scumread on me. Then you wonder why I'm "inconsistent" and giving effort reads to some, not others. i am just really confused about your alignment, you're a very complex null read for me and i am trying to push you to give responses so that i can get a more solid read on you. | ||
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On May 05 2015 04:48 The Shining wrote: Ohhhh, like my read on HtS VS my read on Super. Like the fact that Super had no proof he even read any of my past games, other than claiming I'm usually relaxed. Whereas HtS has been in games with me, and in her other posts not regarding me, uses quotes to illustrate her thought process. Is that what you meant when you said I was inconsistent? no i meant you're giving effort based reads on HtS, yet you avoid giving effort based reads on say...me or ff. if you think x is town for doing y thing, and z and a are also doing y thing, why aren't z and a town for same reason? that's what i mean by inconsistent. | ||
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On May 05 2015 04:51 Half the Sky wrote: I am really curious to see what Tictock has to say on Superbia particularly on the exchange between him and Celestial if he has any input or even between that and Shining. Both disinformation and myself are also headscratching on him at the moment, and one of my issues with Superbia is that particular exchange. I realise he's partying hard (happy birthday btw!) but look forward to a response when he returns. wtf, this is way too diplomatic sounding. has damdred taken over your account and taught you the diplomacy voice? | ||
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On May 05 2015 05:37 Half the Sky wrote: 1 Already rationalised the opposite reads. If you agree to disagree, fine. 2 I've made points against my two top scumreads (additional against Scott/original against Superbia), neither of which are or have been in the thread as of late to further engage. But there are three scummers in this setup, so why not just keep digging and seeing what else turns up? 3 Diplomatic tone (reading what you just posted) was from one post. Go back to how I cased Superbia and tell me that's diplomatic. In fact I would think #1 (your point on reading them opposite) contradicts the fact that I'm diplomatic. The post you quoted, I'm looking for followthrough from Tictock in case you couldn't tell. 4 The "don't feel obviously town" is about as bad as it gets as you could apply that to half the players in this game right now. That's a PoE argument best saved for late game. Plus you were more interested in Stutters when you threw your vote on me. There are some flaws in your logic. Particularly #3. Try again. and this: On May 05 2015 04:51 Half the Sky wrote: I am really curious to see what Tictock has to say on Superbia particularly on the exchange between him and Celestial if he has any input or even between that and Shining. Both disinformation and myself are also headscratching on him at the moment, and one of my issues with Superbia is that particular exchange. I realise he's partying hard (happy birthday btw!) but look forward to a response when he returns. in terms of my 3rd point. you're actually pushing me on the points i made above, which is cool and i can get behind that. yet here you're curious and in passive voice and not actively seeking responses or answers, which i can't get behind and sounds mafia being diplomatic style. | ||
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On May 05 2015 05:49 Half the Sky wrote: Okay, so you have a problem with how I phrased it. Active voice versus passive voice is your argument for scumreading me. I'll be completely honest here - I have never heard anyone in TL scumread someone for phrasing in active versus passive voice. That's a new one. Regardless though, it's still not obvious to you that Tictock should be responding to that? It's still not obvious I'm looking for followthrough? no because you haven't followed through. mind you i don't think he has posted since, but if he came back and posted about other stuff and ignored you; i am not confident you would press him on ignoring you. | ||
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