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Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 03:45 GMT
#1151
Also the doubt in the scumreads thing is kinda similar to guardians where yeah i have doubt but I don't really have space to show it. Ended up me pushing for at least one town lynch in guardians so maybe I should rethink that.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 03:48 GMT
#1155
Oh and the BH stuff basically I wanted to lynch him that day but would have understood if someone didn't as we probably would have ended up lynching him anyway so if someone voting him wanted to unvote and give it more time i was fine with that but I didn't feel like i needed more time myself.

I also think I was reading most of the people on the wagon town at the time aswell
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 03:50 GMT
#1159
On April 28 2015 12:48 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2015 20:51 Palmar wrote:
On April 27 2015 07:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
And where do you get 'stay alive-y' from Palmar?
He's been coming in and posting at pretty random times and none of i is when he's under suspicion or anything, and you don't feel as though he has an agenda even though he's pushed me (and to a lesser extent yamato) nonstop?

I don't udnerstand though how Palmar immediately townreads yamato just because of his few posts last night tbh

I don't townread him. I just think it's less likely he's mafia than you, hence I moved my vote.
Breshke, Palmar didn't flip on yamato77. He just decided that WaveofShadow was a better lynch.


Yeah but he thinks art and wave are both more likely scum than him so that is basically flipping on him from my perspective
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 03:52 GMT
#1160
Rso it can be frustrating that you have a lot of tone reads and such that can't be explained. Like i get it is a legitimate way to play the game and probably more useful than what ive been doing but it is jsut so hard to interact/defend with reads like that.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 04:02 GMT
#1167
On April 28 2015 12:59 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 12:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
It's completely different.
I've even explained it pretty simply.
Breshke and Trfel both have the 'uncertainty-woe-is-me-I-have-no-good-reads' stuff going on, but Breshke has a whole bunch of posts that are all but impossible to have come from sum in between. Artanis picked up on that too even though he now apparently scumreads me for picking that up. Trfel up until this point had NONE of those, so I don't understand what you were tonereading him on.


lol

put your ego aside for one second and realize that it's possible i actually know some of the players that i've been playing with since i started on this site better than you do xP my tonereads are based on personality as much as they are general tonereads

and this "these posts are impossible to come from scum" arguments are really just bad. what you're essentially doing is saying breshke is a worthless town player who should be relegated to the bottom of the heap with other newbies who can only be read for how their posts are worded, when i know for a fact that he is not worthless at all


I like all the nice words in the second paragraph haha but your wrong on me this game so the first paragraph is wrong at least for this game

Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 04:07 GMT
#1172
I really think we should aim to lynch next phase as we shouldn't rely on the very last one to get the lynch.

Rso pretend im not in the game anymore. Who do you want to lynch?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 04:17 GMT
#1186
On April 28 2015 13:11 rsoultin wrote:
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On April 28 2015 13:07 Breshke wrote:
I really think we should aim to lynch next phase as we shouldn't rely on the very last one to get the lynch.

Rso pretend im not in the game anymore. Who do you want to lynch?


i want to lynch you ^^

i could be convinced to lynch wave but ironically you've made me doubt lynching yamato again, so congratulations

we have three up for lynch that most people agree the scum is between and two want to lynch the other one and neither questions that? like...you don't even know who you want to lynch other than yamato so blah

and i don't know what wave is doing...wanting to lynch palmar even though he doesn't really think he's scum? or just not wanting to commit to a scumread cause he thinks/it looks like it's omgus?


How is this important? Lynch me I flip town and it says fuck all about waves alignment tbh because if he is scum he calls me town here anyway because ive called him town all game. Do I think that is the case? No because I think the reasons he says im town are fine but im obviously biast in this situation.

Basically me and wave reading each other town means nothing
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 04:18 GMT
#1189
On April 28 2015 13:16 rsoultin wrote:
i'm actually very good at getting townread as either alignment...better at it when i'm town but still xP


This is another thing. You know i suck at it but think i managed to get most people to call me their top town D1 as scum. I'll take it as a compliment that you think iv'e improved my scum game that much
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 04:39 GMT
#1198
Hey trfel where you at right now.

In the hope of getting this moving forward a bit do you want to place a vote.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 04:40 GMT
#1200
On April 28 2015 13:37 Trfel wrote:
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On April 28 2015 13:26 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 28 2015 13:19 Trfel wrote:
Okay, okay, I get it.

STOP ARGUING

It's really not something you need to be arguing about.

WaveofShadow's perspective

Breshke and Trfel are somewhat similar, however Breshke has made several posts that I can't see scum making while Trfel has not.

rsoultin's perspective

Breshke and Trfel are somewhat similar, however Trfel has produced some original content while Breshke has not.

Settled?

No it's not because that point is shit if that's what rsoul is saying. Breshke has produced absolutely plenty.
What did I miss in this post?


This isn't directed at me but there was one of my pushes you missed which might be the reason ive been off this game
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 04:49 GMT
#1204
On April 28 2015 13:43 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 13:40 Breshke wrote:
On April 28 2015 13:37 Trfel wrote:
On April 28 2015 13:26 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 28 2015 13:19 Trfel wrote:
Okay, okay, I get it.

STOP ARGUING

It's really not something you need to be arguing about.

WaveofShadow's perspective

Breshke and Trfel are somewhat similar, however Breshke has made several posts that I can't see scum making while Trfel has not.

rsoultin's perspective

Breshke and Trfel are somewhat similar, however Trfel has produced some original content while Breshke has not.

Settled?

No it's not because that point is shit if that's what rsoul is saying. Breshke has produced absolutely plenty.
What did I miss in this post?


This isn't directed at me but there was one of my pushes you missed which might be the reason ive been off this game
Hm, who was the push on? And why?

At the moment, were I to vote, I think I would vote for Breshke. But I need to check the points that WaveofShadow mentions first. I think I'll need to spend quite some time working on this tomorrow to really decide the best lynch.


I think what happened between me and rso you could count as a push
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 04:50 GMT
#1205
Wave's post of "me or yamato" has really caught me off guard by the way.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 05:01 GMT
#1211
On April 28 2015 13:52 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 13:50 Breshke wrote:
Wave's post of "me or yamato" has really caught me off guard by the way.


...does that make you think anything about his alignment or what?


Obviously yes.

I'm pushing for this 3 man lynch idea and he just totally take myself out of the equation and continues to push the person I am scum reading.

Theoretically this is probably how wave wins the game. Get's the lynch on yamato today only needs one townie to be wrong tomorrow which would be me because his defense of me is really really compelling to read him town.

The thing is I don't think im wrong on yamato so even if I wasn't reading wave town this would be another reason to not lynch him as he is basically pushing what I think is a mafia lynch.

Also a side note Rso I also think your thoughts that wave and especially myself are mafia is affecting how you look at yamato.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 05:08 GMT
#1213
On April 28 2015 13:58 rsoultin wrote:
yeah, bresh, it was some weak oh yamato and rsoul are townreading each other comment -_- that started everything, that and you asked what conclusions i was making while in the thread...when i had come to conclusions, right after truffle said his spiel on my doing nothing but being aggressive and annoying is my town meta lol ><

so i was irritated and came at you guns blazing

tbh the only thing there really in your favor as a "push" is you didn't run away with your tail between your legs? oh and that you noticed me being upset was weird xP


I never pushed you for you and yamato townreading eachother ffs

I pushed you for getting so defensive that when i was saying where i was at and said you two were towning each other you blew up like it was the end of the world and started being paranoid that me and yamato were mafia together even though you townread him.

On April 28 2015 14:03 Trfel wrote:
Breshke, do you understand WaveofShadow's read progression and townread justification on you?


I don't know I find it really hard to look at it without bias at this point. I also find it hard to criticise peoples reads when they could apprently just say it is a tone read and can't be explained
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 05:22 GMT
#1217
On April 28 2015 14:10 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 14:01 Breshke wrote:
On April 28 2015 13:52 rsoultin wrote:
On April 28 2015 13:50 Breshke wrote:
Wave's post of "me or yamato" has really caught me off guard by the way.


...does that make you think anything about his alignment or what?


Obviously yes.

I'm pushing for this 3 man lynch idea and he just totally take myself out of the equation and continues to push the person I am scum reading.

Theoretically this is probably how wave wins the game. Get's the lynch on yamato today only needs one townie to be wrong tomorrow which would be me because his defense of me is really really compelling to read him town.

The thing is I don't think im wrong on yamato so even if I wasn't reading wave town this would be another reason to not lynch him as he is basically pushing what I think is a mafia lynch.

Also a side note Rso I also think your thoughts that wave and especially myself are mafia is affecting how you look at yamato.


lol admittedly it is, though i actually don't rule out bussing at all after the last several games i've been in since it's apparently the thing these days, and you my friend SCREAMED to have me lynch in our scumgame together so i know you're willing to buss for a fact

i'm not convinced on wave but i think how he's been handling himself today was awful and i'm perfectly fine with lynching him ^^

the thing is i don't think i'm wrong on you xP

breshke i have a problem with this post. you're saying it could make wave scum if yamato is town because it's how he "wins" when from your perspective if wave is scum leaving it as a 3-way...wouldn't it make it more likely town gets lynch if both you and yamato are town?

and if he's bussing, why limit the options to him and his scum-mate?

so you think it's weird but you want to lynch yamato anyway so essentially...your post was just as purposeless as it appeared when you first mentioned it looked weird >< because it has not given you pause to re-evaluate

if you didn't think it made him look scummy why mention it at all?


That was fairly funny what a dumb thing to do the panic was real haha

Yeah it is probably more optimal for him to leave both of us as lynches today but this way if he does get the yamato lynch with this ploy so thats another reason he is probably town doing it.

Err i think you misunderstood. I was caught off guard with how heavily he townread me and was willing to defend me. Call it useless as much as you like but it reinforces my townread on him.

Also just went and looked back and I think my original point was very valid.

You got angry because you though i was lumping you together with yamato even though you read him town.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 05:45 GMT
#1220
On April 28 2015 14:26 rsoultin wrote:
nope i got angry cause people kept saying i wasn't contributing anything ^^

thank you for telling me what makes me angry though, appreciate it


you are legit such a pain this game

Ill be back later
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 13:00 GMT
#1224
On April 27 2015 03:39 Palmar wrote:
Quickly skimmed Yamato since he came back. Moving my vote to waveofshadow

##unvote
##vote waveofshadow


I think it's less likely that Yamato is mafia now so that kinda puts artanis back on the table


Palmar any chance of you explaining what made you think he was less likely mafia around the time of this post?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 22:33 GMT
#1302
On April 29 2015 07:00 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2015 06:58 rsoultin wrote:
make that this is the first time you've mentioned a read on him at all -_- please explain

people calling me mafia are bad

or scum

I lean scum

seriously though, single-minded play combined with low activity is not good


Did artanis not already show that this is not a low activity game for me so this read is bullshit.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 22:36 GMT
#1305
On April 28 2015 13:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2015 07:11 yamato77 wrote:
On April 22 2015 07:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 22 2015 06:53 rsoultin wrote:
On April 22 2015 06:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
That's a gross miscommunication to think that was what Artanis had in mind.
Seriously you think you got hop off yamato's head or whatever it is you do for a minute and think?


lol i think we're generally agreeing? "miscommunication at best" is what i said, after all. usually i hop on people's heads when they're being gooberly lol >< or suspicious

i'd give more credence to the two of you growling at each other, but you did it in aperture, too, so eh. at least yamato is pushing something. if he was scum trying to mislynch someone i don't see why he'd pick artanis xP

What does us arguing in aperture have anything to do with this game?

And nobody is ignoring you right now yamato but excuse to fuck off noted.

lol

you're floundering around and I'm the one fucking off

good lord this game.


Show nested quote +
On April 22 2015 07:05 yamato77 wrote:
I guess I'm going to be ignored.

I'll play more later.


Show nested quote +
On April 22 2015 15:39 yamato77 wrote:
I was playing DotA

what the fuck happened

Show nested quote +
On April 22 2015 15:50 yamato77 wrote:
I'll read this shit later

I've lost my general will to play mafia for today

Show nested quote +
On April 22 2015 15:55 yamato77 wrote:
On April 22 2015 15:54 Blazinghand wrote:
oh come ON yamato it's like 8 paragraphs, TOPS. If you don't read my case then you don't deserve to behold the BEAUTY of it

I'll read everything in the last few pages later

in the mean time, I'd rather relax more.

Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 08:04 yamato77 wrote:
I'm pretty lost.

Show nested quote +
On April 24 2015 09:06 yamato77 wrote:
will play later. have LYLO to do in other game


Have you EVER seen more excuses not to play in your life?
I think there are even more in his filter that I didn't even get to.

A) He's not playing
B) He's making excuses for not playing
C) He hasn't actively pushed ANYTHING. Ever.
D) Does he look like he's attempting to solve the game when he DOES post?


Bonus points for shit meta - scum yamato doesnt play the game


Goodnight.


Add this to the list of excuses

On April 29 2015 06:24 yamato77 wrote:
I've really said everything I can say about wave at this point

still cba to make a case

if someone wants to talk to me about it I will but meh

Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 22:53 GMT
#1311
I really don't think there is much I can do to stop this / get yamato lynched instead.

I don't really see how yamatos analysis on wave is that good like analyzing anyone's BH vote you are going to find it was shit because it was policy for like everyone no matter what way you spin it.

I also like rso far less now because yes she talked about suspicion of wave a lot of the day and the fact that his points were good but he hasn't done much with it when that same thing could be said about wave yet she still prefers to lynch wave over yamato when she can't get her lynch on me.

It is even worse knowing that if wave was around he could probably get this lynch off himself aswell. Like i am all for lynching today but knowing ill still be around in what will most likely be lylo probably with an rso that is tunneld on me is just really not optimal.
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