On April 01 2015 04:40 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh that's actually a good point. That sounds very 3P-y
To be clear, this is what happened:
On April 01 2012 13:15 GreYMisT wrote:
GLaDOS has been Lynched!
So, you finally killed me. Maybe if you weren't so fat you could have done it sooner.
Okay, look. We both said a lot of things that you're going to regret. But I think we can put our differences behind us. For science.
You monster. Look at me still talking when there's Science to do. When I look out there, it makes me GLaD I'm not you. I've experiments to run. There is research to be done. On the people who are still alive. And believe me I am still alive.
Test Subject Lyncher: Moderators(Kenpachi) has been escorted to the party by the Party Escort Bot. + Show Spoiler +
Welcome to Aperture Mafia! You are the Lyncher! the Dimensional rift has opened your mind’s eye, allowing you to look beyond the facade that is this realm and see those pulling the strings: the Moderators. Angered that your life serves only as a meaningless and cruel game for the Users, you have decided to take revenge on those that created you. However, you feel you owe it to the other players to still use flavor. Therefore,your alternate win condition is to get a majority of the players in the game to type in the thread ##Vote: GLADOS. If this happens you win and will be removed from the game. Be warned, the moderators GLaDOS may actively fight against this. To preserve reality, you also are forbidden from claiming your role. Otherwise you win with the town.
With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch.
Unlikely it's literally the same role here, but I am not inclined to vote GLaDOS nonetheless because precedent tells us that this kind of thing can end poorly and let a player use an alternative wincon to exit the game.
On April 01 2015 08:09 Keirathi wrote: Man BH, I liked you a lot more when you were yelling that I was scum. Yelling about an red check on god knows who is so much more annoying because you're trying to remove people's ability to think/reason for themselves and just blindly follow a check when we don't even know who the check was on.
ok, fair enough. i'll talk about other things during the night. I jsut want it stated, for the record though, that I was the one who could have saved us all, who could have avoided us. Where others were too cowardly to see the truth, I pierced the veil and tried to unite us. Where others lacked the strength of character to unite behind a just cause, I rallied us.
Today could have easily ended with a lynch, but the cowardly invertebrates that make up most of this town refused to really to my banner.
so, SLAM, what you're sayign is I fuckin' called it and you're a 3p victory con guy who wins if we lynch GLADOS, and to punish us for not lynching glados you're not letting us lynch scum?
On April 02 2015 00:42 Koshi wrote: JAT. I need you for a sec.
Do you know WoS is mafia?
No. He could be but I don't know he is mafia. Why?
Well. It is night and I could die but I can not hardtry. Just know that I am sure. Like... The true Koshi sure. Which isn't a 100% thing but I am just sure. I know it in my hearth he is mafia.
Here is the tldr version.
WoS:
1) reads yamato read was horrible. I think it might be mafia lazyness, a bit too quickly answered. VA read was wrong. I do not believe a townie makes such a read, such a construction. Hapa read was a slip imo. Hapa too easy to read when he starts posting.
2) emotionless WoS is a whiny bitch when he is town. This is pure meta but I know I am right. After 100 hours into a thread it mostly shows.
3) disconnected His posts are disconnected from the thread. WoS is more a in the thread guy. I made the argument D1 already with WoS and kita.
WoS whined plenty.
the PMs for example is also why he is mafia. He is lighthearted about not tryharding, but then is overdramatizing the PMs.
I don't know who exactly complained about the PMs but except for rsoultin and maybe kita nothing special is happening there that is hurtful for town. I am reading the thread and almost didn't PM and I can follow just fine. I am not missing anything.
Keir is the other one who's loudly complaining about PM use.
BTW I am 100% on board with lynching Keir, I don't think any of the relevant portions of my case have changed, and he hasn't really done anything important since then that I remember.
hmmmm yeah I guess the like, objective merit / behavioral case on Keirathi is better than the one on vayneauthority (who we know is capable of being utterly unhelpful as town, a fact I learned in the last game I played where I carried town to victory), but even with all these wackly claims and crap basically I still think there's at least a 75% chance that the red check was 100% on vaynauthority
Why are we wanting to lynch HtS btw? I had some convos with her in PMland and nothing struck me as off. here's how they went, roughtly:
Hts: Tell me about your thoughts on ExO and Kita. Kita reads town to me but I think he'd do that as scum. Exo seems town but he's fallen off. Maybe there's one scum between JAT/RSO. Also, some questions about your role.
Me: Kita's resistant to the obviously correct VA lynch means he's probably town. Even without associative tells (like the fact that there's no way scum would stick neck out to save obvious scum) his strident defense is unlikely to come from scum in general. If he's scum, lynch him later, there will be others to lynch first. Scum may shoot him or he may get checked or shot. ExO probably not scum. JAT easily could be scum, but VA and Keir are much surer things. No thoughts on rso other than that she seemed very very enthusastic in pmland, seemed legit to me. explanation of my rol ein detail.
HtS: It's N2. I'm using my power on Kita. Any actions Kita send get redirected to me. IF he fires a bullet, it hits me. If he sends a check or a save, it affects me instead. If I die, Kita was progbably scum delivering kp. ExO talked to me in pms, he's probably town. JAT, WoS, HF, just screaming about pm land. they should take part. I've told others about my plan for Kita.
Me: talking about my night action
HtS: JAT might be a good target, or snarfs, or Keir. Third party claims could be fake, maybe verify. more questions about my role.
On April 03 2015 02:07 Half the Sky wrote: BH, if you think VA is scum, do you think you can ply any potential other scummers based on his interactions/discussions about others?
That might be another avenue to wander...
If VA flips scum, it will be a good idea to look for associative tells for sure. I don't think it's good to go down that path now though, because like, let's say VA has 75% chance of being scum (with 25% being him not being checked, weird role interactions, millers, and so on). Now let's say Palmar was defending VA and we think he was trying to save a scumbuddy, so there's a 2/3rds chance Palmar is scum given that VA is scum. Now, if VA has already flipped scum, then we can say "67% chance Palmar is scum" and go for Palmar. But, right now, it's still possible VA will flip town. So we should lynch VA first.
This is what I call the "dont' draw associative tells between unflipped players" rule and basically an associative tell is rarely more accurate than the initial scumread on the first player, so you should lynch the scummy player first, have him flip, THEN do associative tells once you know what he was.
EPT
