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On March 06 2015 15:40 your mom wrote: I'm not fully sold that GB is mafia like you are HF, how much wiggle room do you give yourself to reconsider, or are you not going to consider anyone else for today.
0 other people are mafia, this guy is 100% mafia! If the mafia team was 1 person it would be this guy! Seeing as the mafia team is 3(?) then he's 3x mafia
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well duh it obviously doesn't make him mafia at all
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well he was only here for like 5 minutes so I doubt it would be 100% anything when nobody had posted anything concrete
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although I wanna know why he's voting for gb now after telling me he was town
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On March 06 2015 16:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: idk yamato, what's bad in HF's case?
pretty sure he's talking about mm case
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aOn March 06 2015 17:09 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2015 17:05 Holyflare wrote:On March 06 2015 16:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: idk yamato, what's bad in HF's case? pretty sure he's talking about mm case no, I think your case is meh it's based entirely off of GB's changing response to what is perceived to be a static action by soren, but unfortunately that's just not the case soren continued to explain his "reasoning" or whatever as the game went along and GB eventually realized it was fucking bad, and soren isn't a total noob Show nested quote +On March 06 2015 09:46 GlowingBear wrote:On March 06 2015 09:42 Soren333 wrote:On March 06 2015 08:37 _Tormented_ wrote:On March 06 2015 08:03 Soren333 wrote:On March 06 2015 08:02 GlowingBear wrote: O hai! I'm mafia! I don't like this at all. Why did you write mafia in green? Did you you vote him for this reason alone? o.O Isn't day 1 just RVS anyways where votes don't have a strong conviction to back it up? Or do you guys treat day 1 lynching differently here in TL? Hm. This is bad. Why voting me at all in the first place? You're also showing you have some knowledge in Mafia, which contradicts the "I am newbie" statement you conveniently left this out of your "case"
I didn't leave this out of my case at all????
then gets mad that he's making newbie town mistakes (even if he's said he's played some mafia elsewhere the rng day 1 comment and that above quote should be more than enough reason to realise he's still just a newbie) and that reaction was so ott!
So. GB's initial outset to the game is that:
On March 06 2015 08:24 GlowingBear wrote: Ok Soren is town Because voting me like that means nothing in the first 5 minutes of the game. It actually made me think you were possibly a cute Mafia trying to get town cred for being aggressive
On March 06 2015 09:31 GlowingBear wrote: I thought Soren is town because he feels like newbie town. I don't think newbie scum would be this vocal already at the beginning of the game. I also believe that he is putting clear statements in the thread which aren't actually looking fabricated, but rather fluid
Also, damdy, I have no idea why you ready believe I'm mafia
He initially thought he was mafia but him being new made it seem impossible, yet, as soon as he realises he's not a newbie WHERE DOES HIS READ CHANGE? It doesn't change at all! He yells at him and tells him that's not how he's supposed to play mafia!!!!
If he now thinks he's actually a newbie he wouldn't be yelling at him for an obvious newbie comment (something that should be obvious from all his day 1 rng talk and stuff like that)!
If he now thinks he's not a newbie his original read would be true, he should be pushing soren as a MAFIA read because that was his initial read but it got changed because of the "newbie" aspect. Now, if THIS is the case then WHY IS HE MAD AT HIM?????
clearly because he knows he's town and soren had bad reasoning for different approaches to people/d1 and gb got caught
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yes I can, gb always follows up his scum reads???
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carol and me is like the most obvious example
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On March 06 2015 17:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2015 17:38 yamato77 wrote:On March 06 2015 17:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: I also have an issue with cpt fail's town read on Holyflare. A big issue. He is a smurf. Therefore he knows Holyflare. While Holyflare is a really good player as town he is most known for his even better mafia play.
I just cannot believe he could somehow have a town read on HF at the time he did. I can somewhat agree with this I'm never comfortable townreading good scum players unless I've played >10 games with them And it is even more than that, are you ever comfortable in reading Holyflare town until like D3 regardless of what he does and if he lynches mafia or not? Because i am not.
I liked your mindmeld thingy on him tbh I wouldn't mind forcing him to out his smurf anyway. Any smurf that is town should automatically out themselves for 100% free town credit, there's simply no reason NOT to and only mafia have something to hide.
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On March 06 2015 17:36 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2015 17:34 Holyflare wrote: yes I can, gb always follows up his scum reads??? you're preempting any possible followup with this premature case
he's had his chance to follow up and his follow up was the yelling?????????
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nah I haven't, there's some scenarios here:
a) Either GB thinks he is a newbie town in which case he wouldn't be mad at a newbie town for having a read like that at all, especially as he coaches and stuff in newbie games and I'm sure would be much more approachable.
b) GB thinks he is mafia in which case he wouldn't be yelling about the read being bad and would 100% be following up by calling him mafia. Since you were talking about thread atmosphere, the thread was absolutely dead at that point so he just left because he didn't need to do anything.
You're telling me town GB thought he saw a newbie with a bad read and yelled at him for no reason and then left after that without talking about it?
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On March 06 2015 17:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2015 17:48 Holyflare wrote: nah I haven't, there's some scenarios here:
a) Either GB thinks he is a newbie town in which case he wouldn't be mad at a newbie town for having a read like that at all, especially as he coaches and stuff in newbie games and I'm sure would be much more approachable.
b) GB thinks he is mafia in which case he wouldn't be yelling about the read being bad and would 100% be following up by calling him mafia. Since you were talking about thread atmosphere, the thread was absolutely dead at that point so he just left because he didn't need to do anything.
You're telling me town GB thought he saw a newbie with a bad read and yelled at him for no reason and then left after that without talking about it? leaving is not alignment indicative at all here....
it was, there's no way he'd leave after that bombshell!
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On March 06 2015 18:02 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2015 17:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 06 2015 17:48 Holyflare wrote: nah I haven't, there's some scenarios here:
a) Either GB thinks he is a newbie town in which case he wouldn't be mad at a newbie town for having a read like that at all, especially as he coaches and stuff in newbie games and I'm sure would be much more approachable.
b) GB thinks he is mafia in which case he wouldn't be yelling about the read being bad and would 100% be following up by calling him mafia. Since you were talking about thread atmosphere, the thread was absolutely dead at that point so he just left because he didn't need to do anything.
You're telling me town GB thought he saw a newbie with a bad read and yelled at him for no reason and then left after that without talking about it? leaving is not alignment indicative at all here.... it was, there's no way he'd leave after that bombshell!
I absolutely refuse to believe town GB uses the phrase "this is bullshit!" then rages at a guy and then says "oh yeh gonna go sleep now!"
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you guys can hate on the read all you want but i'll stick to it and dig up more later, mark my words!
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On March 06 2015 18:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:lol where did he say he is going to sleep? 
the second "-----" was extrapolated
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your mum is like 1000% town by the way, legit read from cell!
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On March 06 2015 22:46 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2015 10:05 captain fail wrote: Anyway I'm not damdred.
Right now I have
Hf Rayn Tormented
As town not bad so far Show nested quote +On March 06 2015 10:27 captain fail wrote:On March 06 2015 10:16 Holyflare wrote:On March 06 2015 10:16 captain fail wrote: Good thing you are wrong Rayn.
I know tormented meta and it's not to buddy up or act somewhat aggressive in the first couple hours of the game.
Also you are making good points even though you are wrong so I like you regardless care to explain why you put me as town when i've not particularly done anything at all? Sure, I like your tone you told people to leave soren alone for a moment instead of s allowing us to pile on him. You are also letting the thread do its thing and give you information instead of forcing the thread where you want it to go. FYI, i find this interesting.. or is it ^^ not interesting?? Captain Fail, doesnt include soren as a town read. Yet, thinks HF is town because he asked ppl to leave soren alone??? I think this is TMI from mafia ##Vote: captain fail
I could have easily just told people to leave a mafia alone and just be town......? The guy seemed new and people were calling his posts terrible and I thought it was rude. It's not exactly rocket science.
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I also really don't like that after 14 hours in the game gb returns and only comments on robik who has posted absolutely nothing new!
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undecided on the kelsier stuff, the only part that really bothered me was the backwards reading stuff and not the part about not town reading rayn
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gonna go get wasted on 0 hours of sleep, fun! don't expect anything from me till tomorrow
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