On February 22 2015 08:18 Blazinghand wrote: we will not lynch you today Palmar.
So, LS, got any other things you want me to look into?
Check ritoky, VA(again).
can you link me to your thoughts on them?
On February 20 2015 00:32 LightningStrike wrote: My entire thought process for now: Confirmed Town: Blazinghand, Superbia, Half the Sky. Non confirmed Town: ritoky, VayneAuthority, IAmRobik,, Alakaslam, prplhz ,Fecalfeast, Palmar, rsoultin, Damdred. POE out of META from being Antitown: Fecalfeast, Palmar, rsoultin, Damdred. Reason for each one of them: Fecalfeast looks like he did in Slytherin Mafia although he looked worse than that game when I first read him but his read on me is bad Palmar: Palmar being Palmar I heard he doesn’t try when he’s Mafia and he been trying this game since the weekend when he normally cba on the weekend. Rsoultin: I know her pretty well and the last time she was Mafia she was reading very weird that entire game but this game she just been calling town and been standing her ground like she normally does <3 Damdred: Despite coming in late he looking like himself being very decisive which he was every time I played with him but I never played with him when he was Mafia though but he doensn’t really look like his scum game in Imperial which is a semi recent game that got a Mafia victory. Now there is Mafia in my eyes in ritoky, VayneAuthority, IAmRobik,, Alakaslam, prplhz so this could be very well the entire anti town for me which 4 Mafia and 1 SK is 5 players and I got 5 and Robik might have been a wrong meta read which I taking into account for this and the fact he been tunneling the shit out of me and Slam is mostly unreadable for me this game and the last I couldn’t read him he was Mafia in Slytherin so I think he might be Mafia this game on meta for me. Ritoky although he looked better than his last mafia games I seen him play (Carol which I played and Imperial I shadowed) but he seem to still have some of his mafia traits in him but not as much as that time and give there been time since these two games happened he could of worked on his Mafia play. Prplhz he might be a vet as far I’m concerned and if he is one he looks really bad like Gobble bad meaning he could be mafia with very poor play and he doesn’t look very townie this game. VA he being absolutely useless this game and even more useless than in NYE Party mafia which I played with him so I think he could mafia on that alone.
On February 22 2015 08:18 Blazinghand wrote: we will not lynch you today Palmar.
So, LS, got any other things you want me to look into?
Check ritoky, VA(again).
can you link me to your thoughts on them?
On February 20 2015 00:32 LightningStrike wrote: My entire thought process for now: Confirmed Town: Blazinghand, Superbia, Half the Sky. Non confirmed Town: ritoky, VayneAuthority, IAmRobik,, Alakaslam, prplhz ,Fecalfeast, Palmar, rsoultin, Damdred. POE out of META from being Antitown: Fecalfeast, Palmar, rsoultin, Damdred. Reason for each one of them: Fecalfeast looks like he did in Slytherin Mafia although he looked worse than that game when I first read him but his read on me is bad Palmar: Palmar being Palmar I heard he doesn’t try when he’s Mafia and he been trying this game since the weekend when he normally cba on the weekend. Rsoultin: I know her pretty well and the last time she was Mafia she was reading very weird that entire game but this game she just been calling town and been standing her ground like she normally does <3 Damdred: Despite coming in late he looking like himself being very decisive which he was every time I played with him but I never played with him when he was Mafia though but he doensn’t really look like his scum game in Imperial which is a semi recent game that got a Mafia victory. Now there is Mafia in my eyes in ritoky, VayneAuthority, IAmRobik,, Alakaslam, prplhz so this could be very well the entire anti town for me which 4 Mafia and 1 SK is 5 players and I got 5 and Robik might have been a wrong meta read which I taking into account for this and the fact he been tunneling the shit out of me and Slam is mostly unreadable for me this game and the last I couldn’t read him he was Mafia in Slytherin so I think he might be Mafia this game on meta for me. Ritoky although he looked better than his last mafia games I seen him play (Carol which I played and Imperial I shadowed) but he seem to still have some of his mafia traits in him but not as much as that time and give there been time since these two games happened he could of worked on his Mafia play. Prplhz he might be a vet as far I’m concerned and if he is one he looks really bad like Gobble bad meaning he could be mafia with very poor play and he doesn’t look very townie this game. VA he being absolutely useless this game and even more useless than in NYE Party mafia which I played with him so I think he could mafia on that alone.
quick Q, why is HtS conftown? couldn't she be fakeclaiming miller?
Why would Mafia claim Miller so early in the game without pressure? Also she saw Marv claim Miller to counter claim Eden's Miller claim in Horns of Africa I not doubting that where she got the idea to claim Miller so early.
On February 22 2015 08:18 Blazinghand wrote: we will not lynch you today Palmar.
So, LS, got any other things you want me to look into?
Check ritoky, VA(again).
can you link me to your thoughts on them?
On February 20 2015 00:32 LightningStrike wrote: My entire thought process for now: Confirmed Town: Blazinghand, Superbia, Half the Sky. Non confirmed Town: ritoky, VayneAuthority, IAmRobik,, Alakaslam, prplhz ,Fecalfeast, Palmar, rsoultin, Damdred. POE out of META from being Antitown: Fecalfeast, Palmar, rsoultin, Damdred. Reason for each one of them: Fecalfeast looks like he did in Slytherin Mafia although he looked worse than that game when I first read him but his read on me is bad Palmar: Palmar being Palmar I heard he doesn’t try when he’s Mafia and he been trying this game since the weekend when he normally cba on the weekend. Rsoultin: I know her pretty well and the last time she was Mafia she was reading very weird that entire game but this game she just been calling town and been standing her ground like she normally does <3 Damdred: Despite coming in late he looking like himself being very decisive which he was every time I played with him but I never played with him when he was Mafia though but he doensn’t really look like his scum game in Imperial which is a semi recent game that got a Mafia victory. Now there is Mafia in my eyes in ritoky, VayneAuthority, IAmRobik,, Alakaslam, prplhz so this could be very well the entire anti town for me which 4 Mafia and 1 SK is 5 players and I got 5 and Robik might have been a wrong meta read which I taking into account for this and the fact he been tunneling the shit out of me and Slam is mostly unreadable for me this game and the last I couldn’t read him he was Mafia in Slytherin so I think he might be Mafia this game on meta for me. Ritoky although he looked better than his last mafia games I seen him play (Carol which I played and Imperial I shadowed) but he seem to still have some of his mafia traits in him but not as much as that time and give there been time since these two games happened he could of worked on his Mafia play. Prplhz he might be a vet as far I’m concerned and if he is one he looks really bad like Gobble bad meaning he could be mafia with very poor play and he doesn’t look very townie this game. VA he being absolutely useless this game and even more useless than in NYE Party mafia which I played with him so I think he could mafia on that alone.
quick Q, why is HtS conftown? couldn't she be fakeclaiming miller?
Why would Mafia claim Miller so early in the game without pressure? Also she saw Marv claim Miller to counter claim Eden's Miller claim in Horns of Africa I not doubting that where she got the idea to claim Miller so early.
On February 22 2015 11:11 Superbia wrote: I say let's lynch prplhz and let SK shoot LS or Palmar. If we don't hit scum with that then town should uninstall mafia.
On February 22 2015 12:06 LightningStrike wrote: rsoultin I need you to sheep my case on prplhz please and read it too so you can understand why I think prplhz is Mafia.
I'm already voting prplhz for mafia?
I know you voting him but I wanted you to check my case on him. Think about it as similar to how I constructed my case on JAT in Horns of Africa I guess.
On February 22 2015 12:11 rsoultin wrote: I think LS is still the lynch?
That's a huge case LS ^^;;
I remember agreeing with some of it and not understanding most of it. Is there any way you could condense it into a point with a single sentence for each thing you're scumreading him for?
A. He claimed Red which is a power role in this game but in normal games that isn't this game or Carol Mafia is Red B.He contradicts himself a lot this game espcally about Rayn first calling him Green (VT or Miller) then went on to calling Rayn Mafia but wouldn't lynch him top scumread in Rayn due to Rayn's reputation. C. Asking pointless questions a ton. D. His read progression isn't clear for someone who is a Vet in TL Mafia. E. Voted without explaining until much later kind of reminds me on how Cele did that from Unvoting me to Voting JarJar in Newbie LX when Cele was Mafia. F. Attacking KSC and BH on small things they said and shit.
On February 22 2015 12:11 rsoultin wrote: I think LS is still the lynch?
That's a huge case LS ^^;;
I remember agreeing with some of it and not understanding most of it. Is there any way you could condense it into a point with a single sentence for each thing you're scumreading him for?
A. He claimed Red which is a power role in this game but in normal games that isn't this game or Carol Mafia is Red B.He contradicts himself a lot this game espcally about Rayn first calling him Green (VT or Miller) then went on to calling Rayn Mafia but wouldn't lynch him top scumread in Rayn due to Rayn's reputation. C. Asking pointless questions a ton. D. His read progression isn't clear for someone who is a Vet in TL Mafia. E. Voted without explaining until much later kind of reminds me on how Cele did that from Unvoting me to Voting JarJar in Newbie LX when Cele was Mafia. F. Attacking KSC and BH on small things they said and shit.
Thanks for making this easier, LS <3
A. Okay...soft-claiming could be something. B. I actually agree that strong town players shouldn't be lynched Day 1, to be honest. I don't think that's an unusual sentiment. C. This. There were many posts that led nowhere. D. Mmm, I see your examples. It's not enough to lynch him by itself, cause not everyone is clear on their reads even as town, but I can see it as a supporting point with other scummy things about him. E. That was the last lynch of the game? JarJar's mislynch one mafia the game. I'd actually think that scum would want to be clear on why they were placing their votes just so it doesn't kick them in the butt later, but that's WIFOM. F. Agree on this. It generally irritates me, actually, when people start sniping instead of reading a player as a whole.
I was talking Day 1 in Newbie LX when Cele did a unexplained vote change then made that giant post on why he changed and stuff. His explanation for his vote on BH was 7 hours after he voted him and unvoted him which is a really long to keep a question mark on why you voting someone like you should explain your reason for voting someone not leave it without a explanation for long period of time. Also don't Yolo that will get me lynched my lady T_T
On February 22 2015 12:45 prplhz wrote: A) yea people who claim mafia are often mafia eg. rayn in this game. B) yes lets lynch the people who thought rayn was town then scum, no wait that's everybody in this entire game. C) no pointless questions. please provide one single example of this and i will lie down and get lynched. D) no idea what you're trying to say. E) okay i remind you of someone, whatever. i'm usually lazy like this and hope someone else will explain things so i don't have to. F) well that's just how i play. some people like text walls but i don't, i look for single things that make me think people are scum because even scum are usually only scummy in a few posts.
On February 15 2015 09:08 Blazinghand wrote: So, guys. It looks like nobody can agree on any sort of wagon, right? I think it's fair to say that we're in a bit of a disarray. Palmar recently was talking about the importance of sheeping as a skill. You see, with 5 votes on 5 different wagons we're in a bad place. There's no clear town consensus or counterwagon forming, and everyone is pulling every which way trying to make things happen. If like, one scum votes one way then that wagon could jump into the lead or something, and it wouldn't be clear where people stand because none of these wagons are important enough yet (another reason why Majority Lynch is better than Plurality Lynch)... but most importantly, people seem afraid to sheep. Sheeping is important! It's a vital skill. Here, Palmar from the Past will tell you:
On March 12 2014 17:57 Palmar wrote: A little point about this game:
It really, really proves the value of NOT GETTING LYNCHED as town. For some reason staying alive, just like sheeping, is a pretty devalued skill in mafia. Everyone wants to focus on amazing reads and shit, and while those are great, the main job of any townie can simply be to not get lynched. If townies don't get lynched town wins the game by default.
On February 03 2015 00:23 Palmar wrote:
On February 02 2015 23:12 Damdred wrote: HTS was pretty towny d1 especially early part when I was talking to her with rsoultin not sure what was going on with that lol.
While I'm on the topic of underrated skillsets, HTS has an amazing ability look town when she is. She is just so painfully obviously town that it makes the game so much easier.
Like for some reason everyone seems to think the be-all end-all townplayer skill in mafia is to figure out who is mafia, when in reality it's only one of half a dozen or so very important skills that can't exist without each other.
The ability to convince, the ability to be townread, the ability to sheep when needed, the ability to control atmosphere and focus discussion etc etc etc.
This game was actually a very good example of how unimportant actually figuring out who the mafia is can be. If you polled people in this game, more than half of them would put me in the bottom half for performance as town here. But no one was more right on the mafia than I was this game. I literally tried to kill 3 people day 1 and those were the mafia. However:
I was not useful for direction/focus/atmosphere I couldn't convince anyone to follow me Half the players thought I was mafia.
I agree! I didn't play this game well at all. And of the two things I did right, only one of them was actually really good, and it wasn't the fact that I went after the entire mafia team. In the end my willingness to sheep Damdred's case and thus make a good judgement call is something I'm far more happy about than being right.
So yeah, don't sleep on players even if they are wrong sometimes. The #1 priority of any town player is to not get lynched.
So as you can see, we have problems in this thread because our votes are all over the place. People are focussed too much on trying to look good (for example, numerous peoples' extremely wrongheaded attack on my RNG) or like, trying to hunt scum or something, when they should be focused on constructing a solid town discourse. I propose we focus this discourse around my wagon on Vayne. It's the largest wagon by a good amount, and on top of that, despite his protestations Vayne isn't contributing. Oh, he might, and if he's town I'm sure he'll pick things up, but it's not like we lose anything by lynching him, or pushing a lynch on him. Think about all the people who have come out of the woodwork to attack my case, or even worse, to ignore it utterly. What's the agenda here? Clearly scum are afraid. Afraid of the glory of RNG.
Now, maybe you have your own cases, or your own ideas, and that's fine. I appreciate that. Maybe that one-vote case on rayn or whatever could be a thing. But right now, we need to focus on the task at hand, which is sheeping me and voting Vayne. It's our best chance to unify this town onto a solid goal, which is lynching according to RNG.
Vote Vayne, lynch him for unity and because you understand that sheeping me is an underrated skill.
any questions?
i have a question
are you not aware the the bullshitting phase of this game is long over?
On February 19 2015 06:26 prplhz wrote: any particular reason everybody is ignoring everything i say?
EPT
