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On February 10 2015 12:43 LightningStrike wrote: So OWS what are your reads atm and can you explain to me why your reads are the way there are please?
Tomorrow, mayhaps.
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On February 10 2015 12:44 Damdred wrote: I know what I think is the scum ream. Also it is either you or gobble so not sure if needing a reason is an issue.
I'm open to people being town, but gobble isn't trying to be town really
Ehhhhh. Maybe.
I can see the whole "not trying to be town" thing, but if that's the case then why bother even commenting on the most popular lynch for tomorrow? Why not just ride the waves?
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On February 10 2015 13:31 liancourt wrote: Obi wat do u think of how LM is playing?
Still kind of lurky and spotty.
He always looks scummy to me in terms of activity, but the few posts he has look okay. The one thing I really noticed about him is the fact that he's much more direct; that is, he's actually going out and questioning people instead of just cranking out list posts and leaving things open ended as he did before. I don't get the feeling that he's hiding in his posts, which is a good sign.
Townlean for that.
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On February 10 2015 14:38 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2015 12:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On February 10 2015 12:43 LightningStrike wrote: So OWS what are your reads atm and can you explain to me why your reads are the way there are please? Tomorrow, mayhaps. So who doesn't want to lynch this guy again?
You gonna call me mafia because I felt like putting my reads off for a day?
Ok.
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On February 10 2015 14:15 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 06:40 Fecalfeast wrote:LIST POST LAWFUL GOOD 1) raynpelikoneet - where did you go?  9) Damdred - Driving discussion, seems to be cooperating with people, I like his posting NEUTRAL GOOD 12) Alakaslam - idk his posting felt good early on but my townread is waning on him TRUE NEUTRAL 2) geript - geript is a good player and good players intimidate me so I will refrain from making a read for now. 13) LightningStrike - He has been looking at meta stuff but his posting feels more reserved than I'm used to seeing 11) sicklucker - I read him correctly last game but have yet to get a good read this game 6) ObiWanShinobi - I haven't looked too closely here NEUTRAL EVIL 3) Onegu - posts a lot of one-liners and does a lot of asking for reads without presenting many. 10) LoneMeow - lurkerrrr 8) Keirathi - my sheep powers too stronk, though I miss rayn so I will wait for him to come back and yell at me CHAOTIC EVIL 7) gobbledydook - sheeping townbro damdred 5) liancourt - did this one already Show nested quote +On February 10 2015 04:52 Fecalfeast wrote: oh god i have to pick between two town jesus' How the hell does he go from his read procession, he has gobble as uber scummy and keir as scummy, Rayn as uber town and Damdred way up there to and now he has to choose between 2 town? He gives no reason for this. This guy is scum I have already pointed out the problems with his lian case.
Do you think he's referring to lynching between two town or choosing between sheeping two town?
I'd wager that it's the latter.
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On February 10 2015 14:44 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2015 14:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On February 10 2015 14:15 Onegu wrote:On February 09 2015 06:40 Fecalfeast wrote:LIST POST LAWFUL GOOD 1) raynpelikoneet - where did you go?  9) Damdred - Driving discussion, seems to be cooperating with people, I like his posting NEUTRAL GOOD 12) Alakaslam - idk his posting felt good early on but my townread is waning on him TRUE NEUTRAL 2) geript - geript is a good player and good players intimidate me so I will refrain from making a read for now. 13) LightningStrike - He has been looking at meta stuff but his posting feels more reserved than I'm used to seeing 11) sicklucker - I read him correctly last game but have yet to get a good read this game 6) ObiWanShinobi - I haven't looked too closely here NEUTRAL EVIL 3) Onegu - posts a lot of one-liners and does a lot of asking for reads without presenting many. 10) LoneMeow - lurkerrrr 8) Keirathi - my sheep powers too stronk, though I miss rayn so I will wait for him to come back and yell at me CHAOTIC EVIL 7) gobbledydook - sheeping townbro damdred 5) liancourt - did this one already On February 10 2015 04:52 Fecalfeast wrote: oh god i have to pick between two town jesus' How the hell does he go from his read procession, he has gobble as uber scummy and keir as scummy, Rayn as uber town and Damdred way up there to and now he has to choose between 2 town? He gives no reason for this. This guy is scum I have already pointed out the problems with his lian case. Do you think he's referring to lynching between two town or choosing between sheeping two town? I'd wager that it's the latter. No it has to be the first, why would he be upset about having to choose between 2 town reads to sheep?
I don't really see how that matters, ftr.
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All of SL's votes look like he's just trying not to get modkilled. He came back and took a stance when he was back in the thread.
What's the problem?
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On February 11 2015 01:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote: All of SL's votes look like he's just trying not to get modkilled. He came back and took a stance when he was back in the thread.
What's the problem?
Specifically all of the "weird votes" people are talking about are things I don't necessarily have an issue with.
Also I don't like FF's case on LS.
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I didn't really forget. I'm working on them right now.
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So here's where I stand at the moment:
LM: Townlean. I kind of already explained this. His activity usually makes it really hard to gauge his alignment but I do like the few posts that he has. My biggest issue with him in Carol was that he was posting like he wanted other people to scumhunt for him and he gave off this really weird aura of wanting to "hide." I'm not getting any of that here, so I think he's mostly okay for the moment.
Geript: Null. I'm in kind of a weird position with geript. I didn't like his list post earlier on but I was inclined to leave him alone for his "I'm obviously town" lunacy and whatnot, especially since it was so similar to the time we hydra'd together and he started throwing around the same phrase and such.
Then there's the fact that he's using whatever he can get a hold of as ammo (specifically, he's using my not posting reads for a day against me, I mean lol are you serious) to go after me. I don't know. I'm probably a bit more "wait-and-see" with geript.
I do get the feeling that he wouldn't want to lynch me if he were mafia but I don't know how much that's going to matter if he keeps tunneling me over bullshit.
Slam: Scumlean. His start was okay but then he posted a giant wall of nothing, where he came to no conclusion about pretty much anything. Then he decided that he was going to sheep geript despite geript having him as a scumread and then being totally fine with not being townread by geript for it.
Sicklucker: Town. A bunch of his thought processes are very similar to mine (the commentary on the two wagons from yesterday specifically, plus his thoughts on the voteswap being accurate without being overly precise) which means he's probably town.
Damdred: Town. Could be jumping on me but isn't, and combined with the fact that he's being towny outside of that (taking a bunch of solid stances that he's going to be held accountable for later as well as actively scumhunting and pushing lynches) makes this slot an easy townread.
LS/Liancourt: Town. I have absolutely nothing wrong with these slots and I don't understand why other people do.
Rayn is obviously town for obvious reasons.
That's what I've got so far. I know I've missed a few but I've given opinions on almost everyone at this point.
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I've already covered GD and my opinion hasn't changed. I want to see how he handles tomorrow. If you put a gun to my head, I'd probably lynch him but I wouldn't be super confident on that.
I mostly took rayn's word that Onegu is town but /shrug. I don't know what to do with that slot.
I haven't put the time in to read FF. I do know that I didn't like his LS case so I'm probably going to head back and take a look at it again when I get a chance to see if he was cherry picking mistakes or actually trying to find mafia.
I think Slam might be the best lynch tomorrow, though.
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I might be back for deadline to see if I get vigi'd but maybe not. Idk.
I'll be around intermittently.
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On February 11 2015 04:02 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2015 01:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote: All of SL's votes look like he's just trying not to get modkilled. He came back and took a stance when he was back in the thread.
What's the problem? I tried to hammer. I would have if you guys didnt go rapid change on your votes.
I have no issue with any of your votes, to be clear.
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On February 11 2015 10:51 Onegu wrote: Alright I'm here. Guess I'm off FF for the time being. Can see as OWS, LS, or Slam lynch today.
Can you explain these pls?
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On February 11 2015 07:21 Fecalfeast wrote:Conspiracy theory: Sicklucker said I might be scum or a role. The decision to RB me seems stupid to me but since SL was reading me blue I can see him suggesting me for RB Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 09:16 sicklucker wrote:On February 09 2015 06:30 Damdred wrote: Ff made a decent case. Good conclusions and proofs. He has one great point in it actually the bleeding mafia but no vote is interesting. Think I'm more confident in town!ff.
What do you think of the other cases ff on gobble etc. It was good. But like ive never seen ff try to make a good case. Im scared hes a role or mafia
Not alignment indicative for him, I'm afraid. He talks about bluehunting literally all the time.
In fact, you've played with him several times and he was bluehunting before, and you were both town. Why is it a scumtell now?
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I'm aware that Slam is martyring which is townie, but I still want him to do towny stuff like make reads and figure the game out because I know he can totally do it and be an asset if he does so.
I'm also aware that I still need to look at FF's other case but I don't really feel like doing it right now.
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On February 11 2015 12:43 gobbledydook wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2015 12:28 LightningStrike wrote:Okay I checked it out and he's not Mafia this game. As Mafia he slipped so many times I would of called him out and pushed him very hard on there in his longer game but his 2nd mafia game was to short for me to make good use of it T_T So FF is definitely town for now as he tried to make to make a case on me being Mafia although it's not a good case of me being Mafia as my last game as Mafia I was much more scared to post and slipped pretty damn bad that game. Here's my mafia game if anyone is interested my filter length is pretty small and should be quick for anyone to read  My game as Mafia: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/471489-student-mafia-iv-new-newish-players-welcome?user=LightningStrike ??? ITT: long sentence of a meta read on fecalfeast whos pretty obviously town just based on the rb and lack of counterclaim, ie pretty useless filler
This is not a good point to make, and LS explained why. If the scumteam thought lian was blue, then FF claiming the RB for towncred would be a smart move.
What's your read on FF outside of this?
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On February 11 2015 13:58 Alakaslam wrote: Pah! Be not silent!
Hm.
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On February 11 2015 14:09 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2015 14:08 Onegu wrote: Oh btw speaking of Geript
@geript: good luck Wait what happneed
Geript got a job offer.
Slam: if you had a gun to your head and you had to lynch anyone but me, who would it be and why?
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