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Also I don't like instant majority with announced host deadlines. Like I think host should be able to end the day whenever the fuck he feels like it as long as it's been at least 36 hours or something. | ||
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On January 31 2015 08:48 LightningStrike wrote: Hi what you think of the openings so far? Literally not read a single post except this one. I'm going to ctrl+f for my name though, so I might read posts where people mention me. | ||
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Back to civ then. | ||
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Policy lynch. Back to Civ now. | ||
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On January 31 2015 18:29 sicklucker wrote: Can you at least explain your policy lynch? Thats way too convenient. LAS (lynch all sickluckers) | ||
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Wow such meta | ||
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On January 31 2015 20:44 marvellosity wrote: to the dear readers: I have never mislynched Palmar (as town ![]() ever. Now I'm excited about this lynch. | ||
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On January 31 2015 23:15 rsoultin wrote: I kinda agree with LS that SL is a hard read cause he's always a bit insane (though I don't understand how that translates into a townread, LS; the two of you make as much cents as a broken coke machine). Marv, can you explain your Palmar read a little better? I was under the impression (entirely from being a fly on the wall in earlier games) that he cba to play weekends on a regular basis. What makes this weekend special? + Show Spoiler + It's not a read, he has no idea if I'm mafia or not+ Show Spoiler + He just wants to force me to play+ Show Spoiler + well that's the most likely explanation+ Show Spoiler + Although there could be another one+ Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + He just hates me+ Show Spoiler + hehe no I'm kidding, marv and I are bros+ Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + No he most likely just wants me to play+ Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + Maybe he's mafia though, just using this opportunity to get rid of me and a free mislynch+ Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + although, I think that's kind of unlikely+ Show Spoiler + because he doesn't know if I'm gonna turn it on or not+ Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + So in conclusion, it's a "pressure vote"+ Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + Man robik's response to marv calling him "sweetie" was hilarious. | ||
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On February 01 2015 03:40 Damdred wrote: People not reading thread get Scum points strike one to hts and rs hey what about me I want my points I've not read anything | ||
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On February 01 2015 03:54 Damdred wrote: But you aren't misrepresenting palmar I'm just here so I won't get lynched. | ||
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On February 01 2015 04:05 Half the Sky wrote: Palmar what are your reads on people so far? Probably the first and obvious thing. I'm just here so I won't get lynched. On February 01 2015 04:05 Half the Sky wrote: Second what are your thoughts on HF and Chez scumreading you based on meta? Including the relevant quotes: I'm just here so I won't get lynched. | ||
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On February 01 2015 04:27 Trfel wrote: Palmar, you are currently leading the voting. Please do something about it. I'm just here so I won't get lynched. | ||
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On February 01 2015 04:34 Half the Sky wrote: Trfel are you not with the program? Sicklucker has 4 votes. And Palmar you aren't helping yourself doing jack all. Answer my questions please. I'm just here so I won't get lynched. | ||
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On February 01 2015 07:32 Trfel wrote: Hi Palmar. Scumreads please? Myself, someone made a really good meta point. | ||
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On February 01 2015 07:41 Trfel wrote: I guess I don't really see the case on Damdred yet. His change in opinion on Palmar is really weird, but almost everything else he has said seems null at worst. Though I do find it weird that he said he was feeling really good about this game and then vanished. He's literally the only one that got my joke. Doesn't really say much about him though. | ||
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On February 01 2015 09:35 Holyflare wrote: if my scum team is ff/palmar/sl and none of them are even around in the slightest what exactly am I supposed to be doing? People are pointing out pretty good inconsistencies with what you are saying and doing and you are telling me i'm wrong when in fact I was actually quite correct which dropped you a tier in my list I am here broski | ||
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On February 01 2015 09:22 Fecalfeast wrote: I'll kill palmar ok Et tu, Brute? | ||
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On February 01 2015 09:40 Trfel wrote: Palmar. Is marvellosity scum for wanting to lynch you? Depends on if I am mafia or not I'd think? | ||
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On January 31 2015 09:04 Palmar wrote: oh nobody mentioned me. Back to civ then. There's like 400 mentions of me now. I should be a kardashian, I'm really good at getting attention without contributing anything valuable to society. | ||
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On February 01 2015 09:46 sicklucker wrote: Off the top of my head tho eden, palmer I like marvs case on rsou. Im not sure his alignment but I would lynch ff as pure policy hes garbage. Why am I your scumread? Explain this now. | ||
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On February 01 2015 09:49 sicklucker wrote: Because up to page 33 you were anti town doing nothing. Marv is town and that thing were you didnt read your pm role is kind of damning. I read my role pm before I started playing wtf is wrong with you. 100% mafia ##vote sucklucker | ||
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On February 01 2015 09:51 sicklucker wrote: And palmer where was your presure marv tactic that has a 100% record of finding scum marv. Like If I had an angle that caught marv as marfia 3/3 times I would probably continue doing it I've never "pressured" marv to find out he's mafia. Again, confirmed mafia. Like two out of three times I've got him recently it's because of strange wording/shitty content in his opening posts. That has literally nothing to do with pressure (these instances being the "bitch" thing and the one where I called him mafia for the "partially conflicts with someone else" thing that was completely pointless) So yes. Keep saying things like this. | ||
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On February 01 2015 09:49 Holyflare wrote: hey palmar have you actually read anything at all yet? not even my role pm bro ))))))) | ||
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On February 01 2015 09:54 Holyflare wrote: you gonna start playing if we leave you alive till after weekend? kinda want to I am the void. | ||
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On February 01 2015 09:55 sicklucker wrote: Well regardless. Marv didnt give up in those games because "you saw a tell" he gave up because he was mafia. So if you wanted to be a perfect town player you should find a "tell" in everygame you two are in untill it doesint work. Have I told you whether or not I've been looking for a tell, and if I have found one or not? You can't just assume things like that. Also this: On January 31 2015 07:53 sicklucker wrote: This is a absolutely terrible read. The only time ive rolled mafia mspaint. I froze up and had a 2-4 page filter day1. Dandred/chezina my mafia partners can verify this. I was super afraid to post early in that game. I want to scum read ff for it since he was in that game. But he just puts scum on me everygame and im always town. The one time I was mafia he actually laid off me. Do you think this is a reasonable reaction to something that's very, very clearly a joke vote? | ||
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On February 01 2015 09:59 sicklucker wrote: Shut up yes you do. PALMERS SAYING HE KNEW MARV WAS MAFIA BECAUSE OF A TELL. like who cares? MARV GIVES UP AS MAFIA. You fucking pressure him. and its what a town palmer should do everygame and the one time he didnt mafia marv won. So he should have learn from that mistake. Im making perfect sense This is so dumb. I can just feign having found something and start calling him mafia... That's literally the dumbest plan I've ever heard. | ||
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On February 01 2015 09:55 Holyflare wrote: is that a yes? I'm here so I won't get lynched. | ||
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On February 01 2015 10:02 Trfel wrote: Sicklucker, you aren't making sense. You are aware that marvellosity is among the best scum players on this site? And that he is capable of not giving up right at the start of the game? See Imperial Mafia, Palmar was town and marvellosity was mafia in the same game, and marvellosity survived. Even with that aside, marvellosity would know if Palmar's reason is genuine or not, he is smart. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't give up and quit over a falsified scumread. And even ignoring that, it's obvious that Palmar hasn't been doing anything in this game. So why does it matter if he pressured marvellosity or not, when he is clearly not playing? The only thing that a Palmar lynch has going for it that a normal non-post policy lynch doesn't is that marvellosity seems confident that Palmar is mafia. What is the last thing you ate? | ||
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aww man, that sucks. I just had some toast with smoked salmon and butter and some leftover wine. Shit was great. | ||
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On February 01 2015 10:22 sicklucker wrote: No kidding palmer. My top town read marv with a 100% rate of calling you mafia is calling you mafia. Why are you overly defensive to me? You should be worrying about marv. I will vote with him. The fact your putting scum on me for sheeping a read you yourself believes in probably makes you mafia. What the hell are you on about. I cannot by definition agree with a read that says I'm mafia, even if I was mafia. Marv is wrong about my alignment, hell he isn't even sure I'm mafia. Also, please explain why you defended yourself so hard against a joke vote. Please don't change the subject. | ||
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On February 01 2015 10:57 sicklucker wrote: what joke vote? I dont remember maybe because im a serious person I just quoted the occurrence a few posts ago. | ||
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On February 01 2015 18:49 Trfel wrote: First sicklucker, then Chezinu, then Palmar.... next thing you know, maybe Robik will come back. I will look at the Holyflare/Damdred interactions later. Palmar, who do you want to lynch? I'm here so I won't get lynched. | ||
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On February 01 2015 18:56 Fecalfeast wrote: we should kill palmar I disagree, he's a nice guy. | ||
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On February 01 2015 18:59 Fecalfeast wrote: why are you reading your own filter? Palmar is here taunting us while robik is ded Apply brain to statement please. | ||
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Why? | ||
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On February 01 2015 20:15 marvellosity wrote: because my general play + the fact i'm happily going after you are more pertinent facts. which you should know. pretty sure you know i wouldn't be playing this game at all if i were mafia. you know that. so yeah, it's a bad answer. having said that, it's a mindnumbingly tedious read right now, i almost cba. I disagree | ||
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That depends! | ||
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On February 01 2015 20:29 marvellosity wrote: I *hate* HF's reaction to Damdred being suspicious of him. it's awful. I already said it's weird that hf is mad that damdred is smarter than him ))))))))))))))))))) | ||
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On February 01 2015 20:48 marvellosity wrote: i saw a couple votes for robik in the vote thread. i don't think we should vote a blue-claimer even if he is afk. There are other mafia even if he is mafia, so it pays to wait a day. I think LS looks pretty bad for being absent so long I claimed gentoo? | ||
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On February 02 2015 00:59 Half the Sky wrote: Being a vet, why don't you explain what you are seeing in HF, that most here are not? He's so mad at Damdred! | ||
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On February 02 2015 01:02 LightningStrike wrote: Sorry to tell you this but HTS is a girl and so is rsoultin ![]() Have I ever told you how much I like you LS? | ||
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On February 02 2015 01:02 LightningStrike wrote: Sorry to tell you this but HTS is a girl and so is rsoultin ![]() Like this sentence here is just fantastic. First of all, most likely LS fails to properly read that when I say "He is so mad at Damdred" I'm talking about HF to HTS, which is why the gender is correct. But what if this assumption is incorrect? We can also take the post to mean that LS thinks that I need to be aware of HTS being a girl while talking to her, as if I should change my presentation based on what, and given the "sorry" at the beginning there it implies that if we assume that he did understand that I was talking about HF, he doesn't expect HTS to quite get my argument simply because she is a girl? I think an alternative to explain this option is "Sorry palmar, but she's not gonna get that, please present simpler arguments a woman could understand". Then there is the possibility the sorry is aimed at me, as in "you poor soul, you're talking to women here, you should tread carefully", in which case LS clearly thinks of the gender as not only relevant but also something to treat with the utmost care because it could have dire consequences if I don't. Thirdly, maybe the "sorry" is aimed at himself, and he just feels incredibly saddened by the situation, as if a conversation between two people is extremely sad if those people happen to be of a different gender. "I'm so sad this conversation is happening between these people of differing genders". And lastly, maybe it's aimed at my intelligence, in kinda the same way southerners say "Bless your heart". As if he is simply pointing out my perceived ignorance that he somehow managed to extract from a post that had nothing to do with either HTS or rsoultin. "Bless your heart Palmar, but didn't you know they were women?" | ||
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On February 02 2015 01:20 LightningStrike wrote: He was making a statement about my post towards him. I was literally not doing that. | ||
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So the sheriff walks into the local bar and announces "Everybody stay quiet and raise your hands". He quickly sees that two people are wearing white hats. One of the guys is playing cards, he barely takes notice of the sheriff and just keeps bantering at his table and when the sheriff repeats his request, he flips him off, it's not until the sheriff shoots a warning shot the guy shuts up. The other guy is deathly silent sitting in a corner. He complies with everything the sheriff says without question. Who would you arrest? | ||
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On February 02 2015 02:17 marvellosity wrote: given smurfs are usually decent players trying to hide their identity, he has been massively shit and unproductive. he's hiding behind the smurf. he would still have had to search out that palmar game, unless he's a fucking freak and has palmar quotes saved somewhere on his hard drive like i definitely don't. ♥ | ||
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On February 02 2015 03:07 Damdred wrote: Eden should be the lynch today, his play has been totally uneven and inconsistent with any iteration of his town game and tonely sounds close to the way he played in New Years Eve mafia. Eden comes into the game being sarcastic and useless, he has several posts that are questionable at the time. The first post that is a head scratcher for me is the weak soft defense of me. He is disagreeing with HF case but draws no conclusions from it, he doesn't seem to draw any conclusions in his early filter at all his thought process is just totally devoid and lacks focus and direction. No reads at all are given in the early going and no scum hunting is going on, when this is somewhat alluded to Eden begins to pull the I do not want to get N1 card. His first large post is mainly him complaining about getting killed N1, with a question to SL at the very end. The post lacks any real content and has a real feeling of trying to look like hes doing something rather than what he was being accused of. Still he lacks conclusions and any type of reads in the thread at all. He also sheeps a vote onto SL, but its very noncommittal vote that can be taken back very easily. Its a really weird vote that just doesn't seem right, I can sheep this but wait theres more. Just feels like trying to follow along with the thread sentiment at that point while looking for a way out and keeping options open. First real reads in the thread are that Marv and HF looked ok and then that Rsoultin has a tentative town read because of his push on me. This is the second time that we see Edens scum hunting come down to sheeping people and not given any real thought to it. But I would be a good lynch for my flip on Palmar, but no real thought seems to go into it or fact checking, says they have read my filter but its a weird read because he says he can understand, and then goes on to call Palmar town even though hes starting to scum read me for not wanting to lynch Palmar? That doesn't make sense to me. After this post there really is not much of substantial value in the filter its just a lot of one liners some of them wanting to kill me, and then my blue claim and he looks for somewhere to put his vote and tells everyone to vote FF. Gives no explanation really why FF should be the lynch that day and never realy pushes it just afk a vote on FF and leaves the thread with the only content after that being that Palmar is town. Town reading people for no reason Inconsitant thought process Not scum hunting at all, barely giving any reads Only sheeping people Throwing away his vote Eden is scum vote him I am enchanted by your grandiose words, by your burly manliness, by your unwavering confidence and your courage. If by my life or death I can protect you, I will. You have my sword. | ||
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On February 02 2015 03:42 Chezitwo wrote: Marv votes me and no one follows? I do not understand. Maybe it needs help. ##Unvote ##Vote Chezitwo This town isn't big enough for two trolls. | ||
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On February 02 2015 03:53 Damdred wrote: I really want people to read my case read Edens filter. So do all who live to make such cases, but that is not for them to decide. All we have to do is decide what to do with the votes given to us. There are other forces at work in this world Damdred, besides the forces of the mafia. | ||
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On February 02 2015 05:24 Eden1892 wrote: ok well that was fun and I believe I look scummy enough now that I'll never be nk'd so here we go I'm the Parity Cop, move your votes off of me. YOU SHALL NOT PASS | ||
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On February 02 2015 05:31 Damdred wrote: YOU CLAIMED SCUM YOU CLAIMED SCUM THATS NOT HOW TO PLAY BLUE, YOU DONT DO REACTION TESTS IN THE LAST HOUR OF A LYNCH CYCLE Cast it into the fire! | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + Microsoft is love, Microsoft is life | ||
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On February 02 2015 06:02 marvellosity wrote: Palmar mafia ![]() | ||
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On February 02 2015 06:13 marvellosity wrote: LS could still be mafia LS #2 townread. | ||
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On February 02 2015 06:29 Chezitwo wrote: How do you know you're alive tomorrow? HA! Caught, scum. This is actually distinctly possible ![]() | ||
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See it's stuff like this that makes you look bad. Now I'm nowhere near certain, but still. There's something about how you've been posting after the deadline that's just off. Like you mentioned LS being possibly scum, and even if you retracted it, you should have known he was literally the first person to sheep Damdred's case. | ||
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chez LS rsoultin Palmar :D:D:D:D | ||
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I think it's probably marv actually. Although Trfel is an option too. | ||
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On February 02 2015 06:44 marvellosity wrote: no, palmar is just trying to make me look bad ![]() You should know I'm town and yet you're trying to kill me. | ||
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On February 02 2015 06:46 marvellosity wrote: you should know i'm town 100% after our irc conversation shortly before this game. Maybe, maybe not. Like it is super concerning you still think I could be mafia with these flips. 1) In the midst of my trolling today I actually took the time to argue with sicklucker quite a bit. (although on second thought that very argument sort of makes you less likely to be mafia.... idk). Go read it, it's in my filter. 2) I hadn't mentioned or talked to Eden all day, yet within like 10 minutes or something of Damdred dropping the case I sheep it, vote Eden and don't try to take any credit for a bus or anything. I was the third vote (after Damdy and LS) on Eden. Even if I was mafia, wouldn't I try to at least gain something from a bus by actually pushing the case? | ||
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On February 02 2015 06:46 Chezitwo wrote: I'm not really that concerned by what you think, Palmar. To solve the game you must die, and I'm just making sure everyone else knows I should never be lynched this game as my part of solving the game. @LS that sounds kinda boring. Vivax would be more interesting. Why? | ||
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ok then. | ||
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On February 02 2015 06:53 marvellosity wrote: palmar such a baddie You tried to lynch townie after townie. I tried to lynch mafia, got distracted a bit by HF, and then I instasheeped a case onto mafia. | ||
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On February 02 2015 06:54 marvellosity wrote: i went through people like i always do on day 1. and then sheeped my townbro who i said people should sheep. duh. Yeah well I shap much better than you, and with more swords. | ||
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On February 02 2015 06:57 Holyflare wrote: because he was ignoring everything people were saying and calling me mafia for having a problem with him saying nothing new He was being a total bro You were being a dickhole. | ||
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I was kinda assuming the named townies would get actually named distros like "you are fedora" "you are centos" "you are elementaryos" "you are DSL" "you are slackware" etc etc. | ||
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On February 02 2015 06:59 Holyflare wrote: When 3 people post reasons that he has inconsistencies and he ignores them and calls them all mafia and doges with a summarised post of everything he had already said this game, it's very questionable. I didn't find it questionable. Then again, I hardly read it. | ||
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On February 02 2015 07:00 Holyflare wrote: i actually abhor the way you play by the way, it's a total waste of a slot you mad bro? | ||
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It's quite efficient, honestly. Especially with no time to read the thread. Just wait for someone to do your job for you and sheep that ![]() | ||
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On February 02 2015 07:04 Holyflare wrote: you could also just not play in the game and achieve the same effect without any of us wasting time talking about you I didn't ask you to talk about me? | ||
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Well it's sort of true. I don't think HF has any right to be mad at how I play mafia simply because it doesn't fit his standards. He himself is very guilty of what I consider to be a very detrimental way to play, which is to spam so much that no one that's on a reasonable time schedule can follow the thread. Everyone knows I don't play on weekends, yet during the limited time I had this game, I managed to do quite a few things. 1) I actually built a case on sicklucker, based on mostly the massive overreaction to a joke made in the early game. It was just not a natural reaction at all. 2) I called (likely wrong now) holyflare mafia for being mad with Damdred for making sense. What Damdred said was essentially 100% correct. HF had no business being mad at him for that. 3) I read Damdred's case, agreed with it and sheeped it immediately. Yes, I only have 5 pages of filter. I am NEVER going to change the fact that weekends aren't the time when I play mafia. And yes, I don't only play mafia to win, I also play it for theatrics, having fun, quoting movies, singing and just in general having a good time. So back off with that "get off my lawn" attitude please. | ||
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Only because he ragequits before he gets lynched. | ||
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On February 02 2015 07:13 Palmar wrote: Well it's sort of true. I don't think HF has any right to be mad at how I play mafia simply because it doesn't fit his standards. He himself is very guilty of what I consider to be a very detrimental way to play, which is to spam so much that no one that's on a reasonable time schedule can follow the thread. Everyone knows I don't play on weekends, yet during the limited time I had this game, I managed to do quite a few things. 1) I actually built a case on sicklucker, based on mostly the massive overreaction to a joke made in the early game. It was just not a natural reaction at all. 2) I called (likely wrong now) holyflare mafia for being mad with Damdred for making sense. What Damdred said was essentially 100% correct. HF had no business being mad at him for that. 3) I read Damdred's case, agreed with it and sheeped it immediately. Yes, I only have 5 pages of filter. I am NEVER going to change the fact that weekends aren't the time when I play mafia. And yes, I don't only play mafia to win, I also play it for theatrics, having fun, quoting movies, singing and just in general having a good time. So back off with that "get off my lawn" attitude please. The point I want to make with the bolded is not that his way IS actually detrimental, or wrong, I'm just pointing out that we don't qgree. | ||
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well I sort of expected the game to become extremely dull, but robik is adding some spice to it. | ||
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Also I'm glad it was HF. Means I only voted mafia. | ||
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Except of course town hero Damdred. Maybe marv should learn something from you on how to read people. Town hero Damdred never doubted me, so when he presented his case I did not doubt him. I would have followed you. My brother, my captain, my king. | ||
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When you present a concise, well structured and insightful case, people are going to sheep it. I've written so much over the years on how sheeping is an essential (and very underrated) skill in mafia, and I actually pride myself in being a very strong sheep player. When I have an idea I would like to be sheeped, so when others have an idea I try to return the favor. | ||
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On February 02 2015 23:12 Damdred wrote: HTS was pretty towny d1 especially early part when I was talking to her with rsoultin not sure what was going on with that lol. While I'm on the topic of underrated skillsets, HTS has an amazing ability look town when she is. She is just so painfully obviously town that it makes the game so much easier. Like for some reason everyone seems to think the be-all end-all townplayer skill in mafia is to figure out who is mafia, when in reality it's only one of half a dozen or so very important skills that can't exist without each other. The ability to convince, the ability to be townread, the ability to sheep when needed, the ability to control atmosphere and focus discussion etc etc etc. This game was actually a very good example of how unimportant actually figuring out who the mafia is can be. If you polled people in this game, more than half of them would put me in the bottom half for performance as town here. But no one was more right on the mafia than I was this game. I literally tried to kill 3 people day 1 and those were the mafia. However: I was not useful for direction/focus/atmosphere I couldn't convince anyone to follow me Half the players thought I was mafia. I agree! I didn't play this game well at all. And of the two things I did right, only one of them was actually really good, and it wasn't the fact that I went after the entire mafia team. In the end my willingness to sheep Damdred's case and thus make a good judgement call is something I'm far more happy about than being right. So yeah, don't sleep on players even if they are wrong sometimes. The #1 priority of any town player is to not get lynched. | ||
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![]() In fact the post where you left and said "trust Damdred over HF" (I was voting HF at the time) was my "I'm now fairly confident marv is town" moment. Whereas when you didn't realize that my instasheep on Damdred into a correct lynch made me town, because I've done the same thing with you a few times (smart sheeping ![]() | ||
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On February 03 2015 00:46 IAmRobik wrote: Marv. Were you planning on having me mislynched the next day it would you have stopped trolling me post night phase? My stance was "well robik is probably not mafia but man this is too funny I'm willing to lynch him anyway". | ||
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On February 03 2015 00:50 marvellosity wrote: tbh i didn't pay nearly enough attention to that part of the game because i was catching up in a hurry like you noticed i called LS mafia briefly before retracting it, i hadn't noticed how he'd followed the case either Yeah that was super bad. | ||
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