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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
January 13 2015 21:14 GMT
#7841
On January 14 2015 06:07 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 06:01 GlowingBear wrote:
When I asked marv if he would lynch damdred he gave a very fluffy answer. I asked him "yes or no" and he refused to say it.
This kind of non commitment reveals that he doesn't want to link himself to damdred.

is this for real? you asked me for my read, I gave it, then I backed up my reasons for the read.

Why would I come across as unnaturally certain if I'm not certain?

Explain


I don't have reads on damdred = won't lynch
I think he is scum = lynch

Instead, you gave a really unclear answer.
But the lynch today should be damdred. I've played with damdred a lot and I'm positive he is mafia.
I'm adorable.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 13 2015 21:14 GMT
#7842
On January 14 2015 06:12 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 06:09 Palmar wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:08 marvellosity wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:06 Palmar wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:05 marvellosity wrote:
alright i'm back

On January 14 2015 05:54 Palmar wrote:
Actually let's just do this.

Like what I said on night... 2? is still relevant. Marv 100% knew I wasn't afraid to push him, I was just uncertain. I've questioned all my reads this game. I'm not good enough to be right on everything every game.

Marv SHOULD by now have an opinion on me stronger than meh. If he thinks I'm mafia, so be it, but at least he should sort of think that. The problem is he sort of is okay with townreading me but doesn't really commit to it.

##vote marvellosity

why?

Because you literally always do. I've never had you openly, repeatedly doubt my alignment like this throughout a game.

you fucking admit yourself your play this game has been unusual. which it has!

Who cares. The only thing that's unusual is the activity patches. Literally everything else is exactly how I play town.

You know I bus the fuck out of everyone on my team as mafia anyway.

well that's wonderful if you're sitting there as town with a town role PM. "i'm playing like town because i am town" is a nothnig argument.

your words, more or less precisely -

"there is one tell that i know you use that makes me 100% mafia"

so we go from that premise, but somehow that tell doesn't seem quite right and i don't quite see how or why.

you stepped up your play today, but not to the extent that i quite expected, again leading to uncertainty.


Doesn't matter bro.

also this last sentence is such bs.

It's okay marv. It'll all be over soon.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 13 2015 21:14 GMT
#7843
On January 14 2015 06:14 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 06:07 marvellosity wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:01 GlowingBear wrote:
When I asked marv if he would lynch damdred he gave a very fluffy answer. I asked him "yes or no" and he refused to say it.
This kind of non commitment reveals that he doesn't want to link himself to damdred.

is this for real? you asked me for my read, I gave it, then I backed up my reasons for the read.

Why would I come across as unnaturally certain if I'm not certain?

Explain


I don't have reads on damdred = won't lynch
I think he is scum = lynch

Instead, you gave a really unclear answer.
But the lynch today should be damdred. I've played with damdred a lot and I'm positive he is mafia.

mafia isn't binary.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 13 2015 21:15 GMT
#7844
On January 14 2015 06:13 KelsierSC wrote:
LM can you explain to me why marv looks worse than palmar?

He doesn't really seem interested in getting scum lynched.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 13 2015 21:15 GMT
#7845
On January 14 2015 06:14 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 06:12 marvellosity wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:09 Palmar wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:08 marvellosity wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:06 Palmar wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:05 marvellosity wrote:
alright i'm back

On January 14 2015 05:54 Palmar wrote:
Actually let's just do this.

Like what I said on night... 2? is still relevant. Marv 100% knew I wasn't afraid to push him, I was just uncertain. I've questioned all my reads this game. I'm not good enough to be right on everything every game.

Marv SHOULD by now have an opinion on me stronger than meh. If he thinks I'm mafia, so be it, but at least he should sort of think that. The problem is he sort of is okay with townreading me but doesn't really commit to it.

##vote marvellosity

why?

Because you literally always do. I've never had you openly, repeatedly doubt my alignment like this throughout a game.

you fucking admit yourself your play this game has been unusual. which it has!

Who cares. The only thing that's unusual is the activity patches. Literally everything else is exactly how I play town.

You know I bus the fuck out of everyone on my team as mafia anyway.

well that's wonderful if you're sitting there as town with a town role PM. "i'm playing like town because i am town" is a nothnig argument.

your words, more or less precisely -

"there is one tell that i know you use that makes me 100% mafia"

so we go from that premise, but somehow that tell doesn't seem quite right and i don't quite see how or why.

you stepped up your play today, but not to the extent that i quite expected, again leading to uncertainty.


Doesn't matter bro.

also this last sentence is such bs.

It's okay marv. It'll all be over soon.

it really won't.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 13 2015 21:16 GMT
#7846
On January 14 2015 06:14 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 06:13 Palmar wrote:
Jesus, it's all clicking now.

The whole thing about "you're usually not afraid of pushing me" by marv confirms him as mafia in a way I hadn't even thought of before.

If he actually is town, it's 100% acceptable to him that I don't push him, because in that case I _could_ be town (he has never committed to reading me scum, at least not back then). Like he shouldn't even question it because it would be exactly how I act as town because I SHOULD (ie: I should read him correctly, why is he worried that I'm not pushing him when he knows it's the wrong thing to do).

you've pushed me when i've been town in many games.

cmon palmar.

okay, that's correct. But it wasn't the same. It's usually on day 1 (as opposed to like night 2) and it's a completely different situation.
Computer says mafia
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
January 13 2015 21:16 GMT
#7847
On January 14 2015 06:14 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 06:14 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:07 marvellosity wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:01 GlowingBear wrote:
When I asked marv if he would lynch damdred he gave a very fluffy answer. I asked him "yes or no" and he refused to say it.
This kind of non commitment reveals that he doesn't want to link himself to damdred.

is this for real? you asked me for my read, I gave it, then I backed up my reasons for the read.

Why would I come across as unnaturally certain if I'm not certain?

Explain


I don't have reads on damdred = won't lynch
I think he is scum = lynch

Instead, you gave a really unclear answer.
But the lynch today should be damdred. I've played with damdred a lot and I'm positive he is mafia.

mafia isn't binary.


Yes it is

1 = Lynch
0 = No Lynch
I'm adorable.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 13 2015 21:16 GMT
#7848
On January 14 2015 06:13 KelsierSC wrote:
LM can you explain to me why marv looks worse than palmar?

Are you mafia?

Why am I mafia? I'm the towniest man on earth right now.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 13 2015 21:16 GMT
#7849
On January 14 2015 06:16 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 06:14 marvellosity wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:14 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:07 marvellosity wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:01 GlowingBear wrote:
When I asked marv if he would lynch damdred he gave a very fluffy answer. I asked him "yes or no" and he refused to say it.
This kind of non commitment reveals that he doesn't want to link himself to damdred.

is this for real? you asked me for my read, I gave it, then I backed up my reasons for the read.

Why would I come across as unnaturally certain if I'm not certain?

Explain


I don't have reads on damdred = won't lynch
I think he is scum = lynch

Instead, you gave a really unclear answer.
But the lynch today should be damdred. I've played with damdred a lot and I'm positive he is mafia.

mafia isn't binary.


Yes it is

1 = Lynch
0 = No Lynch


math checks out.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 13 2015 21:16 GMT
#7850
On January 14 2015 06:16 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 06:14 marvellosity wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:13 Palmar wrote:
Jesus, it's all clicking now.

The whole thing about "you're usually not afraid of pushing me" by marv confirms him as mafia in a way I hadn't even thought of before.

If he actually is town, it's 100% acceptable to him that I don't push him, because in that case I _could_ be town (he has never committed to reading me scum, at least not back then). Like he shouldn't even question it because it would be exactly how I act as town because I SHOULD (ie: I should read him correctly, why is he worried that I'm not pushing him when he knows it's the wrong thing to do).

you've pushed me when i've been town in many games.

cmon palmar.

okay, that's correct. But it wasn't the same. It's usually on day 1 (as opposed to like night 2) and it's a completely different situation.

this is a non-point
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 13 2015 21:17 GMT
#7851
On January 14 2015 06:16 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 06:14 marvellosity wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:13 Palmar wrote:
Jesus, it's all clicking now.

The whole thing about "you're usually not afraid of pushing me" by marv confirms him as mafia in a way I hadn't even thought of before.

If he actually is town, it's 100% acceptable to him that I don't push him, because in that case I _could_ be town (he has never committed to reading me scum, at least not back then). Like he shouldn't even question it because it would be exactly how I act as town because I SHOULD (ie: I should read him correctly, why is he worried that I'm not pushing him when he knows it's the wrong thing to do).

you've pushed me when i've been town in many games.

cmon palmar.

okay, that's correct. But it wasn't the same. It's usually on day 1 (as opposed to like night 2) and it's a completely different situation.


Like my point is... why would you expect me to be pushing you in that scenario? I hadn't given any real reasons as to why you were mafia.

It's this expectation of something that shouldn't have happened that makes you scum.

Computer says mafia
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
January 13 2015 21:17 GMT
#7852
Palmar if you don't fucking vote Damdred I'm fucking voting you.
I'm adorable.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 13 2015 21:18 GMT
#7853
On January 14 2015 06:17 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 06:16 Palmar wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:14 marvellosity wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:13 Palmar wrote:
Jesus, it's all clicking now.

The whole thing about "you're usually not afraid of pushing me" by marv confirms him as mafia in a way I hadn't even thought of before.

If he actually is town, it's 100% acceptable to him that I don't push him, because in that case I _could_ be town (he has never committed to reading me scum, at least not back then). Like he shouldn't even question it because it would be exactly how I act as town because I SHOULD (ie: I should read him correctly, why is he worried that I'm not pushing him when he knows it's the wrong thing to do).

you've pushed me when i've been town in many games.

cmon palmar.

okay, that's correct. But it wasn't the same. It's usually on day 1 (as opposed to like night 2) and it's a completely different situation.


Like my point is... why would you expect me to be pushing you in that scenario? I hadn't given any real reasons as to why you were mafia.

It's this expectation of something that shouldn't have happened that makes you scum.


BECAUSE YOU'D KEPT DROPPING SLIGHTS AT ME

the whole *REASON* I made the comment is because you made a sly dig at me one too many times so I called you out on it. go back and READ how it happened.

and that's to everyone.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 13 2015 21:18 GMT
#7854
On January 14 2015 06:17 GlowingBear wrote:
Palmar if you don't fucking vote Damdred I'm fucking voting you.

Okay dear.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 13 2015 21:20 GMT
#7855
On January 14 2015 06:18 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 06:17 Palmar wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:16 Palmar wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:14 marvellosity wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:13 Palmar wrote:
Jesus, it's all clicking now.

The whole thing about "you're usually not afraid of pushing me" by marv confirms him as mafia in a way I hadn't even thought of before.

If he actually is town, it's 100% acceptable to him that I don't push him, because in that case I _could_ be town (he has never committed to reading me scum, at least not back then). Like he shouldn't even question it because it would be exactly how I act as town because I SHOULD (ie: I should read him correctly, why is he worried that I'm not pushing him when he knows it's the wrong thing to do).

you've pushed me when i've been town in many games.

cmon palmar.

okay, that's correct. But it wasn't the same. It's usually on day 1 (as opposed to like night 2) and it's a completely different situation.


Like my point is... why would you expect me to be pushing you in that scenario? I hadn't given any real reasons as to why you were mafia.

It's this expectation of something that shouldn't have happened that makes you scum.


BECAUSE YOU'D KEPT DROPPING SLIGHTS AT ME

the whole *REASON* I made the comment is because you made a sly dig at me one too many times so I called you out on it. go back and READ how it happened.

and that's to everyone.


And in what universe does townMarv believe that scumPalmar is dumb enough to think that dropping random digs at townMarv is going to get townMarv lynched?

Like I know my scumplay isn't great, but that's bs man. I'd pocket the hell out of you if you were town and I was mafia. That, or kill you. Not let you live until day 4 yet constantly call you out for random shot.

It's basically impossible I'm not your top town atm.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 13 2015 21:22 GMT
#7856
On January 14 2015 06:20 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 06:18 marvellosity wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:17 Palmar wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:16 Palmar wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:14 marvellosity wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:13 Palmar wrote:
Jesus, it's all clicking now.

The whole thing about "you're usually not afraid of pushing me" by marv confirms him as mafia in a way I hadn't even thought of before.

If he actually is town, it's 100% acceptable to him that I don't push him, because in that case I _could_ be town (he has never committed to reading me scum, at least not back then). Like he shouldn't even question it because it would be exactly how I act as town because I SHOULD (ie: I should read him correctly, why is he worried that I'm not pushing him when he knows it's the wrong thing to do).

you've pushed me when i've been town in many games.

cmon palmar.

okay, that's correct. But it wasn't the same. It's usually on day 1 (as opposed to like night 2) and it's a completely different situation.


Like my point is... why would you expect me to be pushing you in that scenario? I hadn't given any real reasons as to why you were mafia.

It's this expectation of something that shouldn't have happened that makes you scum.


BECAUSE YOU'D KEPT DROPPING SLIGHTS AT ME

the whole *REASON* I made the comment is because you made a sly dig at me one too many times so I called you out on it. go back and READ how it happened.

and that's to everyone.


And in what universe does townMarv believe that scumPalmar is dumb enough to think that dropping random digs at townMarv is going to get townMarv lynched?

Like I know my scumplay isn't great, but that's bs man. I'd pocket the hell out of you if you were town and I was mafia. That, or kill you. Not let you live until day 4 yet constantly call you out for random shot.

It's basically impossible I'm not your top town atm.

I don't, I thought that's your way of vaguely keeping up appearances and "contributing" with your traditional scumread on me.

except you refused to ever flesh it out (like you usually do), so I called you out.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 13 2015 21:25 GMT
#7857
On January 14 2015 06:22 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 06:20 Palmar wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:18 marvellosity wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:17 Palmar wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:16 Palmar wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:14 marvellosity wrote:
On January 14 2015 06:13 Palmar wrote:
Jesus, it's all clicking now.

The whole thing about "you're usually not afraid of pushing me" by marv confirms him as mafia in a way I hadn't even thought of before.

If he actually is town, it's 100% acceptable to him that I don't push him, because in that case I _could_ be town (he has never committed to reading me scum, at least not back then). Like he shouldn't even question it because it would be exactly how I act as town because I SHOULD (ie: I should read him correctly, why is he worried that I'm not pushing him when he knows it's the wrong thing to do).

you've pushed me when i've been town in many games.

cmon palmar.

okay, that's correct. But it wasn't the same. It's usually on day 1 (as opposed to like night 2) and it's a completely different situation.


Like my point is... why would you expect me to be pushing you in that scenario? I hadn't given any real reasons as to why you were mafia.

It's this expectation of something that shouldn't have happened that makes you scum.


BECAUSE YOU'D KEPT DROPPING SLIGHTS AT ME

the whole *REASON* I made the comment is because you made a sly dig at me one too many times so I called you out on it. go back and READ how it happened.

and that's to everyone.


And in what universe does townMarv believe that scumPalmar is dumb enough to think that dropping random digs at townMarv is going to get townMarv lynched?

Like I know my scumplay isn't great, but that's bs man. I'd pocket the hell out of you if you were town and I was mafia. That, or kill you. Not let you live until day 4 yet constantly call you out for random shot.

It's basically impossible I'm not your top town atm.

I don't, I thought that's your way of vaguely keeping up appearances and "contributing" with your traditional scumread on me.

except you refused to ever flesh it out (like you usually do), so I called you out.


Okay call me top town now.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 13 2015 21:26 GMT
#7858
you're pushing me retardedly, you can piss right off.

like literally everything I say hangs together because IT ALL MAKES SENSE BECAUSE I AM TOWN AND THAT IS HOW IT HAPPENED
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 13 2015 21:28 GMT
#7859
On January 14 2015 06:26 marvellosity wrote:
you're pushing me retardedly, you can piss right off.

like literally everything I say hangs together because IT ALL MAKES SENSE BECAUSE I AM TOWN AND THAT IS HOW IT HAPPENED

Sure, you make sense. You just don't help.
Computer says mafia
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
January 13 2015 21:30 GMT
#7860
You have 5 minutes to change your vote, palmar, or I'll be voting you.
I'm adorable.
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