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On November 02 2014 15:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 15:08 Holyflare wrote:
This won't stop until you actually explain stuff btw. You haven't elaborated on any of your points whatsoever. I don't see what I haven't elaborated on. I've stated that I find the fact you're pushing really useless and you keep pressuring me in order to make me think it's not useless.
No I'm pushing something multiple people agreed with and wondering why you were the only person to not agree with it and every response you leave just leaves more holes and question marks.
Like there's quite literally no reason to say damd is a bad lynch unless you have a reason to not lynch him and his posts were town motivated. As it stands you have given NO town motivation to lie about reads and there is only scum motivation so you calling it bad is totally unjustified, scummy because it looks like tmi and worse now that you have "explained".
We don't have to talk about it more because it's quite evident that you're mafia. Feel free to bring up a new useful subject to talk about though instead of complaining how boring this is and asking me to drop talking about it.
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On November 02 2014 15:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 15:20 Holyflare wrote:On November 02 2014 15:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 02 2014 15:02 Holyflare wrote:
Like there's nothing convoluted about anything whatsoever.
Someone says they have notes
Someone asks to post notes
He doesn't post notes
People start to scum read him for no notes
He extends time because of pressure??
We make case saying this means he has no notes because he wouldn't be under pressure if he just copies the notes
You say that's bad
He posts notes after some time
Why on earth would he need to do that extension unless he was lying and buying time at that moment? There's literally nothing convoluted about this at all and many people agreed yet you somehow keep saying it means nothing whatsoever and that it's terribly far fetched and has no meaning. Like wtf. Okay, let's try to look at this from another angle: If he posted his notes within the allotted time he would've had without claiming/extending time, what made you think that he had to buy himself time and that he's scum because of it? What you are saying is a convoluted way of trying to prove someone's alignment and I don't think it's a strong case. It's a straightforward series of events but it ultimately proves nothing. Can we talk about something else now? What are you even saying. He didn't post notes that he said he had and then increased time because he thought he would get lynched. If he posted them in the alotted time he would be towny looking and avoid any discussion. I'm pretty sure he made up about having notes and then posted them afterwards and is too scared to admit it but his notes weren't actually that bad so I'm not that wary of him (although still a reasonable amount of doubt). The only motivation AT THAT TIME. Before he posted notes. Was scum motivation. But he posted the notes before the allotted time anyway, so it doesn't really matter either way since he had enough time to do so. So he just wasted his power and claimed for no reason. @Lian: It looks like you're limited my options to lynching Damdred. That's what I don't like about what you just posted.
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YOU CALLED IT BAD BEFORE HE DID SO WTF
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On November 02 2014 15:26 Blazinghand wrote:
I really don't thunk the notes thing is legit but if I did, posting the notes should dispel rusty suspicion imo
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You mean ff1 where i rolled scum and we could have won if you listened to me? Ok
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You cop checked someone who was already mafia so yeh if you say so. You're the one getting snippy saying we're bad.
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Just go away then your defence was a waste and you criticise bh for having no elaboration when your only semi read on bh contains no read of his filter and isn't properly elaborated because of that. So you pretty much have no real scum read
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Your other developing scum read is lian who you already give an out to by saying "if he continues" to pressure you he's probably mafia. I don't even need to explain why that is terrible.
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I can't see how you're complaining that people can't read you when you've done absolutely nothing but defend someone who looked extremely like scum and you have no real scum reads.
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I think you're scum so by extension people that are agreeing with me are towny. I also don't think his reasons have been bull shit but you're welcome to actually elaborate why they are because you never really explain anything about any of your reads with quotes and reasoning in any game i actually play with you. It's like drawing blood out of a rock.
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Here's the thing as well. I went through his filter and his reads aren't even unsubstantiated on you.
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So your one scum read IS actually baseless.
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On November 02 2014 15:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 15:53 Holyflare wrote:
I can't see how you're complaining that people can't read you when you've done absolutely nothing but defend someone who looked extremely like scum and you have no real scum reads. He didn't look like scum. What part of this are you not getting? Stop saying that I'm not doing anything. I'm doing stuff right now and you're just blowing me off. It's infuriating.
If damd hadn't have extended this day you would have gone into n1 with a defence of someone out of the blue that looked scummy (your reasons for the defence make no sense and you even retroactively defended him by saying he posted his reads that's why he wasn't scummy even though we're talking about before he posted them) and having a scum read on bh which is factually incorrect and is contained in like 3 lines of 1 post. Oh also town reads on me and oats for really silly reasons.
You think that's enough? 0 scum reads (you didn't even read bh's filter) and 2 mediocre town reads based on 1 post a few hours into the game??? Really?
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But no super town hero obi berates us all for "misreading" him based on that
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Ok obi I'm giving you free reign to do whatever you feel is good that isn't defending yourself. Prove me wrong or get lynched.
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On November 02 2014 16:59 jaybrundage wrote:
Lol I feel bad for Obi wan arguing with Cartman. Its a futile task my friend the Ego is too big.
Cartman feels that Dramdred is probably town. But before Dramdred posted the notes he thought he was scum. And because Obiwan didn't think that Dramdred was scum when Cartman thought he was scum. That makes Obi wan scum.
But what is the scum motivation of defending someone who in Cartman's point of view looked scummy but who he now thinks is a town. Scum would just go for the easy lynch of town and the thread sentiment.
This is not what the argument is about at all and I have literally no idea what you are doing this game.
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Also yeh I'm very tempted to just flat out lynch Tolkien.
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On November 03 2014 00:11 Damdred wrote:
Why are people getting on obi for defending me before I claimed? When he Cleary did it after I lengthened day and claimed I believe?
Absolutely nobody is talking about before you claimed seeing as the crux of the argument is the claim making you scummy and him defending you based on nothing
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On November 03 2014 00:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2014 00:36 Holyflare wrote:On November 03 2014 00:11 Damdred wrote:
Why are people getting on obi for defending me before I claimed? When he Cleary did it after I lengthened day and claimed I believe? Absolutely nobody is talking about before you claimed seeing as the crux of the argument is the claim making you scummy and him defending you based on nothing The crux of the argument is that your case was fucking stupid and I called you on it being shit. So I didn't agree with you and you called me scum.
Yes well you keep saying this and giving no explanation why. Absolutely 0 reason why the argument is shit. This is your problem you say something is bad and don't elaborate and it makes you look absolutely terrible and now one of your town reads even agrees with me and damdred clearly isn't reading it so he doesn't count but ritoky agrees too so that's 3/3 of the people that matter agreeing. So maybe for once you are in the wrong and you literally have no idea what you're talking about because you got called out for doing mafia things.
Your only explanation that you have given is that a cop did it when he had a red check one time which was evidently to hide the fact he had a red check but it doesn't apply at all to this game and makes no reference to damd and his situation at all.
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