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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 15:36 GMT
#1181
On November 03 2014 00:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 00:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 03 2014 00:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 03 2014 00:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 03 2014 00:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 02 2014 23:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 02 2014 22:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
Man ok, first priority OWS,
Then risk.nuke/jrkirby in no particular order
then like bh


Care to explain why?

Not really.

Care to explain why your only defense is "Im town"?


Care to explain why your only accusation is "not really?"

Goes both ways, bro. I can't sort you if you don't give me reasoning.

Read what holyflare said.
Defend it properly.


I already did this. I fail to see what I haven't defended.

Is this supposed to be some kind of joke?

not really.
I reread your filter.
Your defence sucks balls.

You get lynched.
Good bye.


So instead of just asking me to elaborate on something you feel that I missed, you're just going to hop on my wagon?

Lmao. Okay.
Retired.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 02 2014 15:36 GMT
#1182
On November 03 2014 00:11 Damdred wrote:
Why are people getting on obi for defending me before I claimed? When he Cleary did it after I lengthened day and claimed I believe?


Absolutely nobody is talking about before you claimed seeing as the crux of the argument is the claim making you scummy and him defending you based on nothing
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 15:38 GMT
#1183
On November 03 2014 00:36 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 00:11 Damdred wrote:
Why are people getting on obi for defending me before I claimed? When he Cleary did it after I lengthened day and claimed I believe?


Absolutely nobody is talking about before you claimed seeing as the crux of the argument is the claim making you scummy and him defending you based on nothing


The crux of the argument is that your case was fucking stupid and I called you on it being shit.

So I didn't agree with you and you called me scum.
Retired.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 02 2014 15:44 GMT
#1184
On November 02 2014 12:06 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 11:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 02 2014 11:53 ritoky wrote:
On November 02 2014 11:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 02 2014 11:48 ritoky wrote:
On November 02 2014 11:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 02 2014 11:02 ritoky wrote:
On November 02 2014 10:56 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Reread your question:

I do think Damdred is townish, One: because while yes, it's now a majority lynch, town should be perfectly able to consolidate with another 24 hours, and quite frankly, the extra 24 hours are much more important for town.

In any event, what point would mafia Damdred have to gain by breadcrumbing and revealing himself? It just puts him under scrutiny here.


My read of his filter is unremarkable, outside his strong townread on jay. Which I find lulzy.


I don't think you get what I am saying. I am saying prior to Damdred claiming, OWS was defending him as town; which I cannot personally see a reason for. The questions of him and the pressure was from a legitimate angle.

You then say this:

On November 02 2014 10:20 Lord Tolkien wrote:
If you mean me, he leans town based on muh gut.

His filter is reasonable in my read, nothing scummy stands out, and personally, I like this post.



Which means that you find it reasonable that he was defending damdred and calling him town before he claimed; implying you agreed with his assessment. I want to know why? Cuz it sure as shit makes no sense to me.


Hold up.

Why is it that my defense of Damdred is bad? The whole issue with Damdred was that a bunch of people went out and proved that he was being scumread for bad reasons, but you think the reasoning was good? Why is it that my defense is bad but you don't mention anything about LT's defense?

Instead, you went and scumread him for giving a generic opinion on something else. Idgi?


Damdred clearly stated: I have notes, but fuck town I am not giving them out. That was not townie at all, and he was rightly pressured for it. You called him townie despite that, which is BAD. I think your reasoning was bad, and LT saying your filter was reasonable means he agrees that damdred deserved a town read PRIOR to claiming or using his power. Which is something I both cannot understand and cannot get behind. Especially when LT's reason is a "gut read" after 50 pages of content. That's a load of crap.

As for why your defense is bad, HF already did that well enough.


I never called him town. I said the reasoning was bad.

And it was.


I interpret "I don't like a damdred lynch" as "hey this guy is at least leaning town for me".

And you think explicitly withholding information and reads is a good thing?


You are going to lose your mind when you play with someone who doesn't give reads on day 1.

I just looked over the HF case and that's bad too. Here's what it boils down to: "Obi doesn't agree with me so he's mafia."

It's funny, because I don't even think he's scummy for posting it. He tried to kill me in a different game because I didn't agree with him. It's really annoying to end up dealing with the exact same reasoning and expecting a different outcome.


I disagree. I think his case says the following:

1) damdred had done nothing to the point where he deserved anything more than a gut read leaning town.
2) damdred was doing things that were actively anti-town and deserved pressure.
3) OWS comes swooping in and starts calling damdred town before he has really done anything
4) THEN damdred claims and gives reads

so his issue is that it seems like you were ready to call him town pre-mature, before he had done anything to warrant it. maybe that's where you say the disagreement is; but frankly I am still waiting to see what he had done prior to claiming to deserve it. and not LT's weak BS.

overall i think LT is wayyyyy worse than you. your reasoning is bad reasoning but at least it's reasoning and you stick behind it. LT just grafted onto someone else's point, and when asked for a reason made up some of the weakest shit i have ever read. didn't even feel like he believed what he was typing. would lynch him right now.


please don't do that hf rit was spewing it for a few posts
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 02 2014 15:45 GMT
#1185
On November 03 2014 00:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 00:36 Holyflare wrote:
On November 03 2014 00:11 Damdred wrote:
Why are people getting on obi for defending me before I claimed? When he Cleary did it after I lengthened day and claimed I believe?


Absolutely nobody is talking about before you claimed seeing as the crux of the argument is the claim making you scummy and him defending you based on nothing


The crux of the argument is that your case was fucking stupid and I called you on it being shit.

So I didn't agree with you and you called me scum.


Yes well you keep saying this and giving no explanation why. Absolutely 0 reason why the argument is shit. This is your problem you say something is bad and don't elaborate and it makes you look absolutely terrible and now one of your town reads even agrees with me and damdred clearly isn't reading it so he doesn't count but ritoky agrees too so that's 3/3 of the people that matter agreeing. So maybe for once you are in the wrong and you literally have no idea what you're talking about because you got called out for doing mafia things.

Your only explanation that you have given is that a cop did it when he had a red check one time which was evidently to hide the fact he had a red check but it doesn't apply at all to this game and makes no reference to damd and his situation at all.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 02 2014 15:46 GMT
#1186
On November 03 2014 00:44 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 12:06 ritoky wrote:
On November 02 2014 11:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 02 2014 11:53 ritoky wrote:
On November 02 2014 11:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 02 2014 11:48 ritoky wrote:
On November 02 2014 11:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 02 2014 11:02 ritoky wrote:
On November 02 2014 10:56 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Reread your question:

I do think Damdred is townish, One: because while yes, it's now a majority lynch, town should be perfectly able to consolidate with another 24 hours, and quite frankly, the extra 24 hours are much more important for town.

In any event, what point would mafia Damdred have to gain by breadcrumbing and revealing himself? It just puts him under scrutiny here.


My read of his filter is unremarkable, outside his strong townread on jay. Which I find lulzy.


I don't think you get what I am saying. I am saying prior to Damdred claiming, OWS was defending him as town; which I cannot personally see a reason for. The questions of him and the pressure was from a legitimate angle.

You then say this:

On November 02 2014 10:20 Lord Tolkien wrote:
If you mean me, he leans town based on muh gut.

His filter is reasonable in my read, nothing scummy stands out, and personally, I like this post.



Which means that you find it reasonable that he was defending damdred and calling him town before he claimed; implying you agreed with his assessment. I want to know why? Cuz it sure as shit makes no sense to me.


Hold up.

Why is it that my defense of Damdred is bad? The whole issue with Damdred was that a bunch of people went out and proved that he was being scumread for bad reasons, but you think the reasoning was good? Why is it that my defense is bad but you don't mention anything about LT's defense?

Instead, you went and scumread him for giving a generic opinion on something else. Idgi?


Damdred clearly stated: I have notes, but fuck town I am not giving them out. That was not townie at all, and he was rightly pressured for it. You called him townie despite that, which is BAD. I think your reasoning was bad, and LT saying your filter was reasonable means he agrees that damdred deserved a town read PRIOR to claiming or using his power. Which is something I both cannot understand and cannot get behind. Especially when LT's reason is a "gut read" after 50 pages of content. That's a load of crap.

As for why your defense is bad, HF already did that well enough.


I never called him town. I said the reasoning was bad.

And it was.


I interpret "I don't like a damdred lynch" as "hey this guy is at least leaning town for me".

And you think explicitly withholding information and reads is a good thing?


You are going to lose your mind when you play with someone who doesn't give reads on day 1.

I just looked over the HF case and that's bad too. Here's what it boils down to: "Obi doesn't agree with me so he's mafia."

It's funny, because I don't even think he's scummy for posting it. He tried to kill me in a different game because I didn't agree with him. It's really annoying to end up dealing with the exact same reasoning and expecting a different outcome.


I disagree. I think his case says the following:

1) damdred had done nothing to the point where he deserved anything more than a gut read leaning town.
2) damdred was doing things that were actively anti-town and deserved pressure.
3) OWS comes swooping in and starts calling damdred town before he has really done anything
4) THEN damdred claims and gives reads

so his issue is that it seems like you were ready to call him town pre-mature, before he had done anything to warrant it. maybe that's where you say the disagreement is; but frankly I am still waiting to see what he had done prior to claiming to deserve it. and not LT's weak BS.

overall i think LT is wayyyyy worse than you. your reasoning is bad reasoning but at least it's reasoning and you stick behind it. LT just grafted onto someone else's point, and when asked for a reason made up some of the weakest shit i have ever read. didn't even feel like he believed what he was typing. would lynch him right now.


please don't do that hf rit was spewing it for a few posts


Well ritoky isn't the main advocate at all and he agrees with me nonetheless
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 15:51 GMT
#1187
On November 03 2014 00:45 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 00:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 03 2014 00:36 Holyflare wrote:
On November 03 2014 00:11 Damdred wrote:
Why are people getting on obi for defending me before I claimed? When he Cleary did it after I lengthened day and claimed I believe?


Absolutely nobody is talking about before you claimed seeing as the crux of the argument is the claim making you scummy and him defending you based on nothing


The crux of the argument is that your case was fucking stupid and I called you on it being shit.

So I didn't agree with you and you called me scum.


Yes well you keep saying this and giving no explanation why. Absolutely 0 reason why the argument is shit. This is your problem you say something is bad and don't elaborate and it makes you look absolutely terrible and now one of your town reads even agrees with me and damdred clearly isn't reading it so he doesn't count but ritoky agrees too so that's 3/3 of the people that matter agreeing. So maybe for once you are in the wrong and you literally have no idea what you're talking about because you got called out for doing mafia things.

Your only explanation that you have given is that a cop did it when he had a red check one time which was evidently to hide the fact he had a red check but it doesn't apply at all to this game and makes no reference to damd and his situation at all.


Are you reading what I'm posting or no? I stated multiple times why I think your case is convoluted and you just keep stuffing your fingers in your ears going "lalalalalalala."
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 15:53 GMT
#1188
"Okay Obi. Go do some things besides defend yourself."

"Okay."

"I'm actually going to keep tunneling you though."

Awesome.
Retired.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 02 2014 15:57 GMT
#1189
On November 02 2014 22:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
Im very tempted to lynch like 4 people or something.

Wheres that analyse shit btw?
Mods please do something

What a fussy request
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 02 2014 16:00 GMT
#1190
Obiwan you realize every read you made is an OMGUS right?

"You scumread me so I find that scummy"

Those aren't actually scumreads, they are just bitternesses
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
November 02 2014 16:01 GMT
#1191
Okay guys I'm back. Sry for afkness, it couldn't be helped. Reading now.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 02 2014 16:02 GMT
#1192
Oats has the scummiest vote on my wagon. His scumread on me is borderline unexplained and he doesn't seem to care enough to want a response for anything he has an issue with.

In hindsight, lian's posting last night looks infinitely better when I'm not biased and angry. Another likely townie imo.

Holyflare's scumread reads like more of a power struggle rather than some kind of genuine scumread. I don't think it's scummy; I just think his push is misplaced.

@Slam: I'm kind of aware. I don't know where else to look right now because I feel like my vision of this game doesn't really extend beyond myself atm.
Retired.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 02 2014 16:05 GMT
#1193
Well people push wrong information and i said it was wrong and you continued defending yourself /attacking it
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 02 2014 16:05 GMT
#1194
Ok, well, that is the other stuff HF is saying to do

Go expand horizons and make case

Thus defense will come, like whitera victory

"Make cbase and defense it will come to you"
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
November 02 2014 16:07 GMT
#1195
On November 02 2014 04:53 jaybrundage wrote:
@Dramdred If I read the OP correctly "Each character role will have a predetermined set of spells and abilities that are available for their use. These spells may be revealed at the start of the game or become available at certain points in the game." Everyone will be a blue/have some type of ability. Just cause you used your power and claimed, IT does NOT exempt you from being mafia. So stop mentioning it like it is a good defense.
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 04:10 Damdred wrote:
On November 02 2014 04:09 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm not talking anymore. If you guys don't lynch damdred I won't play this game anymore, so you should lynch me.
Bye.


what the literal fuck.... i'm claiming a blue power role and this is the response? I post my notes though ve mad about redacting and this is what you do.

Good job gb is a good lynch then

@VE: In regards to Dramdred, Bad Town or Scum.

The Town case felt pretty heavy-handed. And I'm pretty sure he cleaned up his notes before posting, not that it actually matters.

The use of the power seems normal. As scum or town he felt the thread sentiment going towards his lynch and felt he more time would be helpful so he could insure he wouldn't get lynched. The claim seems pretty clear cut. No clue what the issue is here.

Also I feel like your hung up on that fact that it changes to a majority lynch. I don't see the big deal. Maybe its cause most of the games I have played have been Majority lynch. But your really over reacting to the switch in voting. Why they hell would the town collectively let a No-Lynch happen? Any town worth its salt wouldn't let that shit happen.

We get more time to discuss which is good for town. Although I was looking forward to lynching someone tonite but we have more time to type and we should try to use wisely. [Aside]: And by wisely I mean discuss and try to figure things out and not get tunnel visioned and refuse to consider alternate possibilities /Aside]


I think Dramdred's case will be an important factor. Looking forward to it.


I'm not hung up on that fact, it's just a fact that I'm considering. Like, it's not a huge deal, but it's a deal. We didn't have to worry about a no-lynch before and now we do. That's a fact. And no-lynches happen all the time. I don't care how stupid you say it is or how ridiculous you think the notion is, it happens ALL the time.

I think Damdred is scummy, but concede that his notes make him look nominally better. I'm willing to look elsewhere for today.

##Unvote
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
November 02 2014 16:15 GMT
#1196
I think BH is absolutely town. The way he's like, responding to everything in turn. Ignoring Slam. It all feels like town BH. I also think that he's fabricating a scumread on GB to get his RNG lynch like a neeb and he needs to stop.

BH I want to know who you really think is scum before the end of the day. No one is buying your GB lynch.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 02 2014 16:15 GMT
#1197
VE RNG!
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 02 2014 16:16 GMT
#1198
Pffffffffffft that ninja with falsehood
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
November 02 2014 16:16 GMT
#1199
Stay classy Slam.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 02 2014 16:16 GMT
#1200
I think he said OWS?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
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