I agree with Hapa-chan. There has to be a mafia-mafia pairing, so knowing everyone's pairings narrows down who can be mafia by a lot. We might be able to solve the game after a couple flips.

Chairman Ray

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September 23 2014 22:16 GMT

#234

VE-senpai is my partner.

Chairman Ray

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September 23 2014 22:26 GMT

#239

Should neutrals claim?

Chairman Ray

United States11903 Posts

September 23 2014 22:28 GMT

#242

Since a neutral wins regardless if town or mafia wins, is there any point to keeping them a secret?

Chairman Ray

United States11903 Posts

September 23 2014 22:29 GMT

#243

On September 24 2014 07:28 Hapahauli wrote:

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Neutrals? You mean 3rd parties? Or VT roles?

3rd party

Chairman Ray

United States11903 Posts

September 23 2014 22:32 GMT

#247

On September 24 2014 07:31 Hapahauli wrote:

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I certainly wouldn't mind claims, but I don't know what incentive 3rd parties would have to claim.

Town doesn't want to lynch 3rd party, mafia doesn't want to kill third party, because it goes against both their win-cons. 3rd party just doesn't want to die. Everyone wins I think.

Chairman Ray

United States11903 Posts

September 23 2014 22:35 GMT

#251

Yeah, what the heck.

I'm Chitaru Namatame the defender. Not gonna bother saving town. SO DON'T KILL ME MAFIA

Chairman Ray

United States11903 Posts

September 23 2014 22:47 GMT

#257

Don't think there's anything I really need to do in this game, have fun guys!

Chairman Ray

United States11903 Posts

September 23 2014 23:53 GMT

#279

glad we got that cleared up! We should probably edit the role description in the OP to avoid further confusion

Chairman Ray

United States11903 Posts

September 25 2014 05:33 GMT

#935

Chairman Ray

United States11903 Posts

September 25 2014 05:54 GMT

#937

What am I supposed to do?

Chairman Ray

United States11903 Posts

September 25 2014 06:06 GMT

#940

I'm not sure what this faction is even supposed to do in the game. I can be active and play town, but I win with either town or mafia, so there really isn't an incentive for me to help town or mafia. How I see it, this is just a 13 player game, where I'm a spectator that can talk. I also have an action that can interfere with the game, but it really doesn't change the outcome for me if I win either way.

Chairman Ray

United States11903 Posts

September 25 2014 06:44 GMT

#953

On September 25 2014 15:30 geript wrote:

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Well here's how I see it. Since there isn't any incentive for you to help town or mafia, then you're mafia siding. Therefore you die. So enjoy losing because you feel there's no reason to play to your win condition of surviving.

How about this. If you can explain to me what incentive I have to do something in the context of this game, then I'll do whatever that is. Or explain why me not doing anything is helpful to mafia. The way I see it I'm perfectly neutral doing no harm or help to either side, which is exactly in line with my win condition.

Chairman Ray

United States11903 Posts

September 25 2014 07:09 GMT

#958

On September 25 2014 15:46 geript wrote:
If you do not martyr on N1, we will 100% lynch you on D2. So would you like to help lynch scum?

I'm flattered that you think my reads are so good it's worth trading a lynch for.

Chairman Ray

United States11903 Posts

September 25 2014 07:20 GMT

#964

On September 25 2014 16:16 geript wrote:
Seriously CR, never ever play at TL again.

You speak as though I joined this game just so I can afk. Whenever I roll town, I put in a lot of effort trying to hunt down scum. Whenever I roll mafia, I put in a lot of effort trying to get town mislynched. I really just have no clue what I'm supposed to do here in this 3p role. You're not being very helpful.