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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 18 2014 12:26 GMT
#261
On August 18 2014 20:44 Damdred wrote:
I wasn't constantly pushing stuff in Neat & Tidy at first it wasn't till almost halfway through the day that I even got my first read out. I think you are pretty dumb for giving yamato a free pass at this early junction into day one he hasn't posted anything useful, I was hoping he would and I could town lean on him but he hasn't.

Xat feels like he is just trying to buddy people and go for a mislynch. If Yamato doesn't post more hes probably going to be mafia and I still really like oats


"Pushing stuff" doesn't strictly mean pushing scumreads. You were actively pushing the thread forward and strongly influencing the discussion (for example questioning me about my early posts). Here... you've just kind of given some bland opinions that are more like neutral descriptions of events rather than reads.

I still don't like yamato too much but I wouldn't want to lynch him right now either considering that rayn's last words were to townread him (and he's apparently more experienced with yamato than I am). If yamato continues to lurk, the situation may change. It's not like rayn is always right
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 18 2014 12:30 GMT
#262
On August 18 2014 20:44 Damdred wrote:
Xat feels like he is just trying to buddy people and go for a mislynch.


On August 18 2014 21:19 Damdred wrote:
Its more dumb than scummy at this point, and i'm probably not its early for me yet.


So is it scummy or towny? :/
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 18 2014 12:30 GMT
#263
To be fair that's not exactly talking about the same topic.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 18 2014 12:32 GMT
#264
Well, I'd still like to know what you think of me. It's a bit unclear.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 18 2014 12:33 GMT
#265
I really hope the gun wasn't given to rayn. Damn, why couldn't I receive it..
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 18 2014 12:48 GMT
#266
I always have a hard time reading Xatalos if i'm to be honest I always find him scummy especially early game. But i'm going to have to say i'm leaning town on him by just a small percent I still think hes being dumb about Yamato but he trusts rays reads atm also just by reading the thread it looks like Xatalos would have the biggest filter day one so even if I did feel hes scummy I wouldn't push a lynch on him at this point its more town xat.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 18 2014 13:03 GMT
#267
That's a good start for reads, although I wonder what you meant by that "he's trying to make friends and push a mislynch" a bit earlier? That felt like you were scumreading me instead. Anyways, who would you want to lynch instead of yourself?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 18 2014 13:42 GMT
#268
I guess I'll agree with rayn that yamato here is looking similar to yamato in the game that rayn linked (as town). He's being pretty useless and posting joking one-liners in both games. Whereas in the PYP game where yamato was scum he was just unmotivated and barely managed to make any posts. So I guess it's more about his tone/attitude than the quality of his content. Not that he couldn't be scum, it wouldn't be very hard to fake his current filter, it's just that I can see him making those posts as town. I really hope he'll post something good though.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 18 2014 13:45 GMT
#269
On August 18 2014 12:03 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2014 11:57 yamato77 wrote:
I'll read damdred once people decide to lynch him


Yamato your usefulness is unbound!


Oh yeah, yamato, now would be a good time right?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 18 2014 13:46 GMT
#270
Man I dont understand this part at all Damdred.
also just by reading the thread it looks like Xatalos would have the biggest filter day one so even if I did feel hes scummy I wouldn't push a lynch on him at this point its more town xat.

Why big filter = town and why wont you push him if you think he is scummy regardless of his filter?

buddy much?
No gg, No skill.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 18 2014 13:49 GMT
#271
I can maybe guess the reason but I'll let him answer.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 18 2014 13:54 GMT
#272
Does someone here know how to read Oats well? rayn's suspicion of him felt more like a gutread and not very certain.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 18 2014 13:56 GMT
#273
I don't really know much about Tehpoofter either. His posts have been pretty fluffy, does he actually play like this as town?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 18 2014 14:03 GMT
#274
On August 18 2014 22:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Man I dont understand this part at all Damdred.
Show nested quote +
also just by reading the thread it looks like Xatalos would have the biggest filter day one so even if I did feel hes scummy I wouldn't push a lynch on him at this point its more town xat.

Why big filter = town and why wont you push him if you think he is scummy regardless of his filter?

buddy much?


Town Xatalos posts a lot and posts whatever hes thinking whenever in my experience with him. His filter size shows if hes being towny. And what i've noticed hes been pretty open about his reads and opinions isn't scared to be wrong and always tries to explain his thought process. And generally its always a bad idea to lynch into the people with the biggest filters day one normally they aren't mafia, if his play tapers off and he starts to lurk i'll rethink it but i don't think hes a good lynch for day one at all.

And Xat it did feel like you were just sheeping what Ray was saying at first but looking back over the thread I thought it was pretty consitant with what you been saying. So it was probably more of a reaction to being called mafia at this point, so yea i'm pretty town on you right now.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 18 2014 14:04 GMT
#275
I looked at World Heavyweight Championship mafia III where Tehpoofter was town and I think his play there was reasonably similar to this game. Lots of fluff comments, nothing very memorable early on etc. So he could be town I guess.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
August 18 2014 14:04 GMT
#276
Rayns an idiot. As if mafia doesn't have enough good reason to kill him, he went and made it impossible for them not to. Why didn't he just shut the fuck up
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 18 2014 14:07 GMT
#277
On August 18 2014 23:04 IAmRobik wrote:
Rayns an idiot. As if mafia doesn't have enough good reason to kill him, he went and made it impossible for them not to. Why didn't he just shut the fuck up


That would be suspicious on its own too (obviously avoiding NK) and now he at least blessed us with his reads
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 18 2014 14:08 GMT
#278
On August 18 2014 08:48 IAmRobik wrote:
Apparently I'm oting with mafia


Btw what did this mean Robik? And do you have anything to say about who could be scum?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 18 2014 14:11 GMT
#279
On August 18 2014 23:03 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2014 22:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Man I dont understand this part at all Damdred.
also just by reading the thread it looks like Xatalos would have the biggest filter day one so even if I did feel hes scummy I wouldn't push a lynch on him at this point its more town xat.

Why big filter = town and why wont you push him if you think he is scummy regardless of his filter?

buddy much?


Town Xatalos posts a lot and posts whatever hes thinking whenever in my experience with him. His filter size shows if hes being towny. And what i've noticed hes been pretty open about his reads and opinions isn't scared to be wrong and always tries to explain his thought process. And generally its always a bad idea to lynch into the people with the biggest filters day one normally they aren't mafia, if his play tapers off and he starts to lurk i'll rethink it but i don't think hes a good lynch for day one at all.

And Xat it did feel like you were just sheeping what Ray was saying at first but looking back over the thread I thought it was pretty consitant with what you been saying. So it was probably more of a reaction to being called mafia at this point, so yea i'm pretty town on you right now.


I like your read on me but I'd be even more interested to hear about who would you want to lynch instead? Because I basically agreed with rayn about you/Tehpoofter not looking very good during N0 and looking at Tehpoofter's latest towngame, it's not very different from his play so far.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
August 18 2014 14:19 GMT
#280
On August 18 2014 23:08 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2014 08:48 IAmRobik wrote:
Apparently I'm oting with mafia


Btw what did this mean Robik? And do you have anything to say about who could be scum?

That means that I had a scum read on rayn to start the game and I voted him then I scumread someone who was voting for rayn. I forget who I was. Glowingbear maybe?
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