Like. Scum can't hold their shots in many games. I know this for a fact.

So this means that it is Onegu or rayn.

Unless you think that I SHOT MYSELF.

A missing shot in the night you saved me confirms us BOTH. And harurh is vigi.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

August 20 2014 19:07 GMT

#1864

Okay, I agree, but from my perspective a lot of forum games killing is optional - what's rare are games where you're allowed to shoot your teammates, but holding shots are fairly common.

Either way, the setup isn't completely open and so doesn't matter.

Koshi

Belgium38797 Posts

August 20 2014 19:08 GMT

#1865

No. It isn't. In normals you can't hold shots. Unless Palmar hosts them.

I fucking think we win here.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

August 20 2014 19:09 GMT

#1866

Like you're not allowed to hold your shot in IRL mafia or Video mafia because generally speaking there aren't flips, so town HAS to have that information. But forum mafia is different because everything is kept on file for everyone to peruse, and there are flips. I just don't see many hosts DISALLOWING holding shots. Hell, it's why EVERYONE jumped to that conclusion Koshi.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

August 20 2014 19:10 GMT

#1867

I'm going to be so salty if I've been confirmed town this whole time. I didn't ask because I assumed the question wouldn't be answered because not open setup.

Koshi

Belgium38797 Posts

August 20 2014 19:13 GMT

#1868

The rules clearly state that scum KP is ALWAYS 1.

Like... the host doesn't have to tell us his rules. But it is in the rules so it counts.

Show me a game which says that scum kp is always 1 and they are allowed to hold shots.

There probably aren't. And the Kurumi game was without holding shots. And that was a normal mini mafia.

Why would this be different?

Like newbies are normal games, and they can't hold shots.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

August 20 2014 19:14 GMT

#1869

If holding shots is legal then I think it was Koshi. If not then it has to have been Onegu or rayn, and in my opinion it's Onegu because of him appealing to rayn when pleading with town.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43266 Posts

August 20 2014 19:14 GMT

#1870

##Vote: Koshi

Koshi

Belgium38797 Posts

August 20 2014 19:15 GMT

#1871

Ugh VE. There is just no way I am scum with this filter and with the way I pushed batsnacks. How I cleared townies...

It just doesn't fit at all bro.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

August 20 2014 19:16 GMT

#1872

And the way you pushed the medic as scum for like 6 days in a row. Yeah, super townie, I don't know how I'd ever come to that conclusion.

Koshi

Belgium38797 Posts

August 20 2014 19:17 GMT

#1873

On August 21 2014 04:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
And the way you pushed the medic as scum for like 6 days in a row. Yeah, super townie, I don't know how I'd ever come to that conclusion.

I said multiple times you shouldn't be lynched till lylo. But if it is lylo. You are not confirmed because you are not death.

I also never pushed you before lylo. I repeat that you might be scum, because you might be scum.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

August 20 2014 19:19 GMT

#1874

But I thought you now maintain that from your perspective and interpretation of the rules that I'm confirmed town? See this is what I'm talking about Koshi, you're keeping your options open because you don't know which way the vote is going yet.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43266 Posts

August 20 2014 19:22 GMT

#1875

I have never seen a formu mafia game where scum were forced to shoot. ridiculous.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

August 20 2014 19:23 GMT

#1876

I mean, I have, but only in like, vanilla games or stuff like that. Stuff where there's not much information to begin with, so town NEEDS the information a shot provides. In general in those games scum are disallowed from shooting their mafia partners for the same reason.

Koshi

Belgium38797 Posts

August 20 2014 19:23 GMT

#1877

On August 21 2014 04:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
But I thought you now maintain that from your perspective and interpretation of the rules that I'm confirmed town? See this is what I'm talking about Koshi, you're keeping your options open because you don't know which way the vote is going yet.

I would never make the votes go your way. How can you even think that? Like, I annoyed the living shit out of HaruRH because he didn't vote rayn. Like, why would I do that as scum when I want to be lynching you maybe today.

I want 1 lynch. rayn.

But I know that it is possible that he is town. I know this and I keep repeating why others might be scum. There is no reason to not do that.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43266 Posts

August 20 2014 19:25 GMT

#1878

So Koshi actually has no scum or town reads. Except for Haru..

Koshi

Belgium38797 Posts

August 20 2014 19:28 GMT

#1879

On August 21 2014 04:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So Koshi actually has no scum or town reads. Except for Haru..

rofl.

It is simple %.

I would never lynch VE over you or Onegu. But it doesn't mean he cant' be scum and I can't give the reasons why he can't be scum.

This is so fucking basic.

Like. I made the entire Onegu is town case but now you say that I have no townreads..........................
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Look at the OP from newbies.

It CLEARLY STATES mafia kp is always 1

On July 21 2014 22:07 HaruRH wrote:
Set up information

This setup is a semi-open setup for 9 players - all possible roles will be known, but the number of each on each side is not known. This game is painstakingly balanced for both sides. Mafia win when they outnumber town or they reach a scenario where this becomes inevitable. (For example, mafia wins when there are 4 mafia left to 3 town left). Town wins by eliminating all mafia members. The mafia killpower (KP) is always 1.

Town Roles:

Vanilla Town

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You do not have any special powers, but you have the power of the majority vote. Voice yourself out and seek to lynch all mafia with your crushing numbers.

Rolecop

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As a rolecop, you are able to accurately identify the target's role (does not show alignment). At night, you are able to PM the hosts for a check on anyone and you will receive your results on the next day. You win when all threats to town are eliminated.

Cop

As a cop, you are able to correctly identify the target's alignment (does not show role). At night, you are able to PM the hosts for a check on anyone and you will receive your results on the next day. You win when all threats to town are eliminated.

Doctor

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As a doctor, you are able to PM the hosts to target another player at night, which protects that player from a kill made during that night. Both you and your target will not be notified if a save occurred. You win when all threats to town are eliminated.

Jailkeeper

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As a jailkeeper, you are able to PM the hosts to target another player at night, which jails that player and prevent all actions that the player can make and protect the player from a kill made during the night. Your target will be notified if a jail occurred. You wil when all threats to town are eliminated.

Mafia Roles:

Mafia Goon

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You have no special powers aside from the power to carry out kill power (KP) every night. Seek to kill off every town member. You win when mafia outnumbers town or it is inevitable that it will happen.

Mafia Rolecop

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Mafia Godfather

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As a Godfather of the mafia, you are well-blend in with town and all checks on you will return as town-aligned or Vanilla townie. you can carry out kp for mafia. You win when all mafia outnumbers town or it is inevitable that it will happen.