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raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

August 12 2014 08:47 GMT

#508

Because Mages' posting looked townie and carefree. Then i learnt he has played mafia for 15 years so it's not a towntell at all.
I am confirmed town because Onegu says so.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

August 12 2014 08:48 GMT

#510

On August 12 2014 17:46 Onegu wrote:
Because I can read rayn, and iirc have always been correct when reading him.

tbh there was one time where you weren't.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

August 12 2014 08:52 GMT

#513

Anyways i am back to work.
Gonna be around pretty much all of tonight.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

August 12 2014 10:09 GMT

#530

KOC it's been now 36h. Time to start providing conclusioms instead of asking endless questions.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

August 12 2014 10:47 GMT

#542

On August 12 2014 19:23 onevone wrote:

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I agree, but at the same time... What happened to your scumread on me?

You being involved in the game points towards you being town. Maybe your first post was just dumb and i was wrong.

I dislike haru and koc the most. While i didn't realize the game i read started on page 2 on his filter all hehas posted this game is jokes and complained. Koc hasn' provided any reasoning to anything. No conclusions. I guess i have to reread haru from another pov. More about that when i am off work and can actually do that.

Batsnacks is anothee dude i don't remember anything from and then there is damdred-mages stuff i want them to talk more about. VE is useless but not lynching him. Even if he is scum he is not the only scum and i can't read ve on d1.

Basically evertone else looks more or less town.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

August 12 2014 10:54 GMT

#546

Haru are tou around in 2hours? I can't decide if your posr is incredibly scummy or the other way around.....

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

August 12 2014 10:57 GMT

#551

I'll be here in about 1,5h then.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

August 12 2014 13:02 GMT

#587

Haru:
1) What's your read on kush throughout the game? You must have one because he has been talking so much.
2) Where have i called batsnacks mafia?
3) At the start of the game you were super jokey and carefree. When i called you out (and other people expressed interest in lynching you) you suddenly became super serious. Why the sudden change in behaviour? Like yes, i know in case you are town you WILL start scumhunting at some point and start doing shit (and tbh even as mafia) but your behaviour compared to early game is like day and night. Why?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

August 12 2014 13:04 GMT

#589

EBWOP:
....In fact:
4) Why the hell there is a lot of stuff in your posts that clearly shows you haven't even read the thread properly? About half of what you say is just totally incorrect..

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

August 12 2014 13:04 GMT

#590

On August 12 2014 22:02 onevone wrote:

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He basically said that everyone except KoC, Haru, batsnacks and VE feel town. Not exactly a scumread but close to it.

Yeah, after Haru said i called bats mafia.....
You too, why are you not reading the thread?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

August 12 2014 13:10 GMT

#593

I mostly do not like onevone's read on me, which apparently does not exist but he repeatedly feels the need to tell he does not read me town and that i might be scum. Koshi do you feel like he has been trying to figure out my alignment?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

August 12 2014 13:11 GMT

#594

On August 12 2014 22:10 onevone wrote:
You should read too, rayn. I didn't say that you called batsnacks scum. Just that you don't townread him unlike you do most other players, which makes him a potential lynch candidate to you by process of elimination. At least logically. Thus "not exactly a scumread but close to it".

I haven't said a single thing about batsnacks when Haru made his post. That's the point.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

August 12 2014 13:17 GMT

#600

Here:

1)MM1 called 1v1 town, but 1v1 called MM1 scum. It is almost like they chose to talk about each other just so that they have content about one another.

[....]
Leaning town: MM1 (he always die early and is always the lynch target)
[...]
1v1 (his reads feels forced and rehearsed, almost a perfect copy each time he gives his list)

This does not make any sense because in the first part you basically say you think those guys could be scum together. Then you townread the other one and scumread the other. Which makes no sense at all that you wrote all those paragraphs.

2)batsnacks is universally scumread by everyone (sn0,rayn,koshi,kush). Nobody have townread bat so far.

I had not talked about a single thing about bats when you made your post. Or if i have show me where i say i think he is mafia? I have had a read on 5 people - none of them were bats. At that point I had said kush is town, Koshi is town, Onegu is town, Haru and 1v1 are scum.

Leaning scum: koshi (he has been the most wishy washy player till now)

VE (his reads are not consistent)

Explain how because i don't see how either of these are anywhere near the truth. You can't just say something and not explain it. Sooner or later you have to, and now is later because this - to me - makes no sense at all.

I circled (koshi townreads sn0, changes to wanting to lynch him for lying, then changes to liking him) in my notebook.

Wrong (i know you already said you misread but still wrong).

That's pretty much everything you have said in this game except for your null reads.....

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

August 12 2014 13:23 GMT

#606

On August 12 2014 22:20 onevone wrote:
(Dunno why mentioning rayn there makes him scum still)

Because it is a proof that he is either not reading the thread prpperly which is a scum trait or he has some idea from my posting why i think bats is mafia which - if true - makes him more likely town.

Koshi could you be Will Smith and go read KoC's past town games just to see if there is any game where he just asks questions and doesn't do shit.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

August 12 2014 13:30 GMT

#608

Koshi i don't totes agree with you. In his town game he actually reaches to some conclusions. In his scumgame he doesn't. He talks about irrelevant stuff. While you are right in that he asks way more questions in his town game i don't see how this looks like his town game at all (because the questions are dumb - not thought out - and there are zero conclusions at all).

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

August 12 2014 13:44 GMT

#619

On August 12 2014 22:35 HaruRH wrote:

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On August 12 2014 01:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:

On August 12 2014 01:48 Sn0_Man wrote:

On August 12 2014 01:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sn0_Man could you also explain to me why you just said "it's more Koshi who is taking things out of proportion" but all of your post suggests otherwise. You don't like my points but Koshi has some sensible ideas.

How does that make sense?

Koshi's push on the "avatar" bit see:

On August 12 2014 00:43 Koshi wrote:

On August 12 2014 00:37 onevone wrote:

On August 12 2014 00:33 Koshi wrote:

On August 12 2014 00:29 onevone wrote:

On August 12 2014 00:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am putting Mages to townpile aswell.

By the way, it'd be more helpful if you also explained your reads while sharing them rather than just saying "X is town, Y is scum".

I agree with rayn.

It would be helpful if you could tell us why Mages his play is most likely coming from town. Why should rayn tell you the answers to the game? rayn is testing others if they pay attention.

Why are you not paying attention?

Spoilered because I am bored talking about this:
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On August 12 2014 00:28 onevone wrote:

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Dunno, I had just finished writing about Mages and moved on to MM1. Both had downplayed themselves, but MM1 also talked about Avatar, so I guess I just put it in there.

Yeah you are scum.

There is no reason for you to bring up again that somebody talked about Avatar in the 5 first posts of the game when everybody at that time was talking about Avatar.

It is completely null that when there are people talking about watching Avatar, there is another guy who chimes in and says "I also watch avatar".

There is no fucking way that you can add him talking about Avatar to something else and come to the conclusion he is scum or scummy.

It's you who isn't paying attention, since I explained my town lean on Mages in one of my first posts + I've repeatedly said that the sentence about Avatar wasn't a reason for him being scum.

Stop lieing.

Here are your reads:

On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:
So, here are my brief observations from the early posts (any topics I took the effort to write down):

1) Mages

Started the game by downplaying himself, which might be new/nervous town or scummy avoiding of attention. Continued to express his thoughts after that, which makes me lean town, especially since he wasn't just following the flow of the thread but rather tried to bring his own thoughts to the discussion. Especially as a new scum player it would be somewhat hard/risky to post like that.

2) MysteryMeat1

Also opened the game by downplaying himself ("I'm trash at forum mafia" etc.). This time added with fluff about Avatar and such. A couple of players see that as a scummy opening and vote for him, and I think it was probably the best target for a pressure vote this early on.

After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much. He also says something like "the lynch is between me and VE now". I think he overreacts to the votes and combined with his self-trashing opening, it isn't a bad vote for now.

The bolded is for both people the same. They downplay their game.

BUT, the green stuff makes Mages a townread for you. While the red stuff made MM1 a scumread for you.

Clearly Avatar talk made MM1 more scummy to you. If you say that it never did, I am just calling scumhunting for this day and make sure you are lynched. Maybe you were an overzealous townie, maybe, but don't tell me you weren't scumreading MM1 partly because he talked about Avatar. Because you did.

To me, its obvious here that what made MM1 1v1's vote candidate was his response to VE's pressure and the Kush/VE votes indicating that others agreed with him. Which really isn't a town mindset but is also not what Koshi was trying to push on him. Which is why I felt like you two weren't necessarily pushing on the right axis and it made it hard to read.

Hence,

On August 12 2014 00:45 Sn0_Man wrote:
I don't read that post the same way koshi

I do think attacking same easy targets other people attack is scummy. I mean, townies do that aswell. But the whole construction of the post does not say anything - all it does is it gives onevone all sorts of outs to back off from his reads later on.

I had a feeling you were referring to batsnacks when you said this btw, on how he is just repeatedly attacking kotc when everyone have already pointed that shit out.

Okay Haru is mafia because this does not make any sense at all.
Noone is stupid enough to not see i am talking about - and ONLY about - 1v1 here.
No chance.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

August 12 2014 14:13 GMT

#632

On August 12 2014 22:57 kushm4sta wrote:
rayn i'm interested in why you think haru is scum, because i don't quite get your case and haru looking pretty town to me

He doesn't make any sense. Trust me on this.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

August 12 2014 14:17 GMT

#636

On August 12 2014 23:13 HaruRH wrote:

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Show me a game where I made sense d1 and youre allowed to lynch me right here right now.

You made sense in the game where i was mafia. The game where bats shot me because he didn't like me.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

August 12 2014 14:18 GMT

#637

You are INCONSISTENT! Making sense to all people is another thing (i know because i never make sense to anyone) but you CANNOT POSSIBLY MAKE SENSE FROM TOWN PERSPECTIVE. It is impossible.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

August 12 2014 14:22 GMT

#642

On August 12 2014 23:19 Onegu wrote:
You make sense to me rayn <3

Yeah i also make sense to marv. That's about it. ^^

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