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On August 12 2014 01:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sn0_Man could you also explain to me why you just said "it's more Koshi who is taking things out of proportion" but all of your post suggests otherwise. You don't like my points but Koshi has some sensible ideas.
How does that make sense?
Koshi's push on the "avatar" bit see:
On August 12 2014 00:43 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 00:37 onevone wrote:On August 12 2014 00:33 Koshi wrote:On August 12 2014 00:29 onevone wrote:On August 12 2014 00:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am putting Mages to townpile aswell. By the way, it'd be more helpful if you also explained your reads while sharing them rather than just saying "X is town, Y is scum". I agree with rayn. It would be helpful if you could tell us why Mages his play is most likely coming from town. Why should rayn tell you the answers to the game? rayn is testing others if they pay attention. Why are you not paying attention? Spoilered because I am bored talking about this: + Show Spoiler +On August 12 2014 00:28 onevone wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 00:02 Damdred wrote:On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:2) MysteryMeat1 Also opened the game by downplaying himself ("I'm trash at forum mafia" etc.). This time added with fluff about Avatar and such. A couple of players see that as a scummy opening and vote for him, and I think it was probably the best target for a pressure vote this early on.After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much. He also says something like "the lynch is between me and VE now". I think he overreacts to the votes and combined with his self-trashing opening, it isn't a bad vote for now. ##Vote MysteryMeat1On August 11 2014 11:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
His first post was all "Man I'm so bad and I can already tell you that you won't want to listen to anything I say"
Obviously I'm paraphrasing. But that's the feels I got reading his post. It made my ass twitch. Ok I think I might of played to many IML games and i'm putting to much on where votes are right now. However if you don't think its scummy why even put it in your post that lead up to a vote? Dunno, I had just finished writing about Mages and moved on to MM1. Both had downplayed themselves, but MM1 also talked about Avatar, so I guess I just put it in there. Yeah you are scum. There is no reason for you to bring up again that somebody talked about Avatar in the 5 first posts of the game when everybody at that time was talking about Avatar. It is completely null that when there are people talking about watching Avatar, there is another guy who chimes in and says "I also watch avatar". There is no fucking way that you can add him talking about Avatar to something else and come to the conclusion he is scum or scummy. It's you who isn't paying attention, since I explained my town lean on Mages in one of my first posts + I've repeatedly said that the sentence about Avatar wasn't a reason for him being scum. Stop lieing. Here are your reads: Show nested quote +On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:
So, here are my brief observations from the early posts (any topics I took the effort to write down):
1) Mages
Started the game by downplaying himself, which might be new/nervous town or scummy avoiding of attention. Continued to express his thoughts after that, which makes me lean town, especially since he wasn't just following the flow of the thread but rather tried to bring his own thoughts to the discussion. Especially as a new scum player it would be somewhat hard/risky to post like that.
2) MysteryMeat1
Also opened the game by downplaying himself ("I'm trash at forum mafia" etc.). This time added with fluff about Avatar and such. A couple of players see that as a scummy opening and vote for him, and I think it was probably the best target for a pressure vote this early on.
After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much. He also says something like "the lynch is between me and VE now". I think he overreacts to the votes and combined with his self-trashing opening, it isn't a bad vote for now.
The bolded is for both people the same. They downplay their game. BUT, the green stuff makes Mages a townread for you. While the red stuff made MM1 a scumread for you. Clearly Avatar talk made MM1 more scummy to you. If you say that it never did, I am just calling scumhunting for this day and make sure you are lynched. Maybe you were an overzealous townie, maybe, but don't tell me you weren't scumreading MM1 partly because he talked about Avatar. Because you did. To me, its obvious here that what made MM1 1v1's vote candidate was his response to VE's pressure and the Kush/VE votes indicating that others agreed with him. Which really isn't a town mindset but is also not what Koshi was trying to push on him. Which is why I felt like you two weren't necessarily pushing on the right axis and it made it hard to read.
Hence,
On August 12 2014 00:45 Sn0_Man wrote:
I don't read that post the same way koshi
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@1v1:
Alright back to hypothetical land.
MM1 gets modkilled on the spot, no flip till night post. (basically this is just "you can't vote for him"). who would you like to lynch? Also reasons.
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snackbats
or u
prolly
I'll vote if I feel like I seriously want to lynch somebody.
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ps u dojed my question i think. not sure how i feel about that.
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Well his thred entry was like badtastic imo.
"Hi i'm here but i aint reading anything"
followed by
"Irrelevant irrelevancy about me being awesome at everything lvoe me"
followed by
oh wait nothing he aint even posted anything more what gives? AFK is fine but if ur gonna post in the thread when its happening (like 3 votes on the page he last posted on) then afk without content... yeah no
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U could be right although he could also be one of those "oh I rolled scum time to AFK and hope they lynch others" type player.
I have a bit of a fatalistic approach to day 1 lynches. Lynching scum would rock but realistically I'm never confident enough in Day 1 reads to hope for that too much. So I generally angle for a lynch with a reasonable probability of scum and a high probability of information and removal of useless/lurker players. This changes obivously if I somehow am convinced we found le scum.
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Alright people PLEASE QUOTE whatever ur referring to cuz this got confusing hella fast.
@1v1 I mean one one hand those posts are more efforty and towny, but on the other hand they are more "Look how much I care" without actually then following up and doing things with it. I still dislike snackbats much more.
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EBWOP: was referring to kingofcats and meant "on one hand"
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Has MM1 every rolled scum and/or has anybody played mafia with MM1 before?
I've been away for a while so
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erm lol mislynched twice day 1 you say?
I was mostly looking at this post:
On August 11 2014 17:34 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Im going to sleep guys. Just so you know. Dont want to be seen as suspicious when the thread starts getting serious ^^
Like, what kind of moron posts that as scum...?
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Alright there's no way MM1 is lynchable 2day
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Alright can I pretend to be grush or watever starsenses guy's name is?
Scumteam totally 1v1, snackbats and VE. For post-game cred.
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He's chainsaw defending le snackbats clearly.
Okay I may be a tad confirmation biased right now.
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Actually, apologies I shouldn't post like that as per host's request etc.
@mages: The reason I feel like KingofCats isn't RIGHT NOW a good vote is because given ample opportunity to do nothing he has instead made posts that are clearly discussion stimulators and demonstrated that he was thinking about certain posts (specifically the haru sheep) and wanted opinions.
The lack of followup is mildly disturbing but until he returns I'm willing to let it slide. Specifically, if he comes back and fails to prosecute that line of thinking or explain why he is now satisfied with respect to haru (which wouldn't make sense atm really), then I could see lynching him. For now, I'm giving him time.
Snackbats had the opportunity to participate in the thread and/or drive discussion as he was posting in the middle of a very active period and instead chose to joke aroudn and be useless.
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Actually i'd really like to see the proverbial list post from MM1 right now as that seems to be a thing of his.
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On August 12 2014 03:48 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 03:42 onevone wrote:
What I mean is, TheKingOfTheCats was clearly following the thread for several hours and keeping up with the events, yet he only posted two questions during that time that seemed decent on the surface yet don't *really* push anything forward... While Onegu just made one brief post and went away. Stop saying stuff that are lies or exaggerations to push your agenda. Several hours is in this case fucking 7 posts. There are fucking SEVEN POSTS between his first post and his second post. THERE ARE SEVEN POSTS OF NEW CONTENT BETWEEN KoCs HIS FIRST POST AND SECOND POST. You make it sounds like there were 25 pages of content being posted and in the meantime KoCs was actively lurking. 7 fucking posts.
I would like to sheep this only in a much more friendly, open and un-aggressive manner.
The idea that he was following the thread long-term seemed quite made up and VE's approval of ur post was distingly
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EBWOP disgusting
dunno how that got misspelt
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This is distinctly not whats supposed to happen
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Koshi I really need justification for why 1v1 is now "terrible town".
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