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On August 11 2014 23:20 onevone wrote:
You're wrong to color that line red. It was just a null point separating MM1's early play from Mages (in addition to Mages' active contribution to the discussion).
Why is it scummy that MM1 talked with Koshi & Damdred about Avatar when we were talking about Avatar.
Why is it scummy that when Mages posted about being afraid to post because he is new that MM1 said that Mages didn't need to be afraid to post because there were others just like Mages who are pretty new to forum mafia. Why is comforting people scummy?
On August 11 2014 08:48 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
hahah, don't worry about it Mages. I'm decent at video mafia, but im super trash at forum mafia. You'll see later that my cases probably need some work, so i'll be trying to focus on improving my accusations. I'm pretty extroverted, and i play a ton of sports. ATM it's summer vacation so its pretty much just work and studying for my classes in the fall. The 3 that i'm taking are all important to get into my major. I start school in a month and a half and i'm training for a tough mudder as well!
I am calling this now:
Mysterymeat1 is TOWN
I put money on it. Going against this is going against me.
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On August 11 2014 23:23 Mages wrote:
Has TheKingOfTheCats Posted at all? (And is there an expedient way to see if he has been online or anything like a comment tracker here or seeing if he's posted in this thread specifically?)
On August 11 2014 23:23 Mages wrote:
Obviously I've searched the thread but didn't see anything, granted im on my 2nd cup of coffee and the newborns crying, so i may be moderately distracted.
Double posting is against the rules in this game.
On the first page you see this:
On August 08 2014 02:50 slOosh wrote:Player List Cool cats: Oatsmaster
Click on the links to see people their filter.
PS: please try to give us some townreads/scumreads. I prefer scumreads but if you are lost some townreads with new information are also fine.
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On August 11 2014 23:30 onevone wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2014 23:24 Koshi wrote:On August 11 2014 23:20 onevone wrote:
You're wrong to color that line red. It was just a null point separating MM1's early play from Mages (in addition to Mages' active contribution to the discussion). Why is it scummy that MM1 talked with Koshi & Damdred about Avatar when we were talking about Avatar. Why is it scummy that when Mages posted about being afraid to post because he is new that MM1 said that Mages didn't need to be afraid to post because there were others just like Mages who are pretty new to forum mafia. Why is comforting people scummy? On August 11 2014 08:48 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
hahah, don't worry about it Mages. I'm decent at video mafia, but im super trash at forum mafia. You'll see later that my cases probably need some work, so i'll be trying to focus on improving my accusations. I'm pretty extroverted, and i play a ton of sports. ATM it's summer vacation so its pretty much just work and studying for my classes in the fall. The 3 that i'm taking are all important to get into my major. I start school in a month and a half and i'm training for a tough mudder as well! I am calling this now: Mysterymeat1 is TOWNI put money on it. Going against this is going against me. Please read again. I have never said that it's scummy to post about Avatar. It's not really definitely scummy to trash yourself. It's just that often scum are more keen to appear useless / meaningless as a player so that they won't be accused of being useless in the discussion.
You don't agree that the reason to why Mysterymeat " trashed himself" was to make Mages feel more comfortable? Because that looks pretty pro-town to me.
On August 11 2014 23:25 onevone wrote:
The *case* isn't really scummy in itself, no. It just didn't feel good to have a big push on VE based on very weak / subjective reasons immediately after he was voted by VE. It felt like an OMGUS / panic reaction that scum might make in his situation.
Dude. I just fucking coloured 50% of the things MysteryMeat said in green.
TELL ME WHY THOSE THINGS ARE SCUMMY. You said this:
On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:
2) MysteryMeat1
After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much
I just gave you 4 reasons to townread MysteryMeat of that case. Tell me why those 4 reasons are bad.
Because your vote is currently on MysteryMeat because this:
On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:
2) MysteryMeat1
Also opened the game by downplaying himself ("I'm trash at forum mafia" etc.). This time added with fluff about Avatar and such. A couple of players see that as a scummy opening and vote for him, and I think it was probably the best target for a pressure vote this early on.
After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much. He also says something like "the lynch is between me and VE now". I think he overreacts to the votes and combined with his self-trashing opening, it isn't a bad vote for now.
##Vote MysteryMeat1
So if I know analyze these 2 points you made about MysterMeat1
1) Downplayed + talked about Avatar
---> Like I said. This is not scummy. He talked with some people about Avatar. He comforted Mages.
2) He makes a case on VE that doesn't say much.
---> Probably the best case in the game so far. At least way better than all the cases on MysterMeat. I am still waiting on somebody telling me the 4 green bolded things in his case are more likely to come from scum than town. Because I see it coming more likely from town.
Why is your vote still on MysteryMeat?
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tbh I am already extremely bored with onevone. But he is playing so I let him be for the time.
On August 11 2014 21:29 Onegu wrote:Oh man so happy to play with Rayn and Koshi again. @kush. It's hot and still under martial law, but last week they took the machine gun carrying soldiers off of my street corner so at least that is something. Show nested quote +On August 11 2014 17:49 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Hopefully other people in the game will chine in. My only concern is that if VE and i are both town it gives mafia an easy d1 mislynch. Did anyone else find it weird that VE only voted on my after Kush? Not to much really. Haru vote is much odder in my book, this isn't his first game like he said, and a straight up sheep this early in the game gets my toes in a curl when he says he is new. Anyway I'll be back in a bit after my kids sleep. Also I bought a new notebook for this game. Then my 2 .5 year old found it and decided to draw pictures in it. Brb in a few.
How are we on Onegu? Is this completely null?
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On August 12 2014 00:16 onevone wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 00:06 Koshi wrote:tbh I am already extremely bored with onevone. But he is playing so I let him be for the time. On August 11 2014 21:29 Onegu wrote:Oh man so happy to play with Rayn and Koshi again. @kush. It's hot and still under martial law, but last week they took the machine gun carrying soldiers off of my street corner so at least that is something. On August 11 2014 17:49 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Hopefully other people in the game will chine in. My only concern is that if VE and i are both town it gives mafia an easy d1 mislynch. Did anyone else find it weird that VE only voted on my after Kush? Not to much really. Haru vote is much odder in my book, this isn't his first game like he said, and a straight up sheep this early in the game gets my toes in a curl when he says he is new. Anyway I'll be back in a bit after my kids sleep. Also I bought a new notebook for this game. Then my 2 .5 year old found it and decided to draw pictures in it. Brb in a few. How are we on Onegu? Is this completely null? 
Don't be sad. The good news is I will be pushing for your lynch extremely hard at the end of the day. We will be able to play together then!
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On August 12 2014 00:29 onevone wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 00:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am putting Mages to townpile aswell. By the way, it'd be more helpful if you also explained your reads while sharing them rather than just saying "X is town, Y is scum".
I agree with rayn.
It would be helpful if you could tell us why Mages his play is most likely coming from town. Why should rayn tell you the answers to the game? rayn is testing others if they pay attention.
Why are you not paying attention?
Spoilered because I am bored talking about this:
+ Show Spoiler +On August 12 2014 00:28 onevone wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 00:02 Damdred wrote:On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:2) MysteryMeat1 Also opened the game by downplaying himself ("I'm trash at forum mafia" etc.). This time added with fluff about Avatar and such. A couple of players see that as a scummy opening and vote for him, and I think it was probably the best target for a pressure vote this early on.After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much. He also says something like "the lynch is between me and VE now". I think he overreacts to the votes and combined with his self-trashing opening, it isn't a bad vote for now. ##Vote MysteryMeat1On August 11 2014 11:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
His first post was all "Man I'm so bad and I can already tell you that you won't want to listen to anything I say"
Obviously I'm paraphrasing. But that's the feels I got reading his post. It made my ass twitch. Ok I think I might of played to many IML games and i'm putting to much on where votes are right now. However if you don't think its scummy why even put it in your post that lead up to a vote? Dunno, I had just finished writing about Mages and moved on to MM1. Both had downplayed themselves, but MM1 also talked about Avatar, so I guess I just put it in there. Yeah you are scum. There is no reason for you to bring up again that somebody talked about Avatar in the 5 first posts of the game when everybody at that time was talking about Avatar. It is completely null that when there are people talking about watching Avatar, there is another guy who chimes in and says "I also watch avatar". There is no fucking way that you can add him talking about Avatar to something else and come to the conclusion he is scum or scummy.
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On August 12 2014 00:36 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 00:33 onevone wrote:
Sn0_Man could be scum. He feels like the most lurky/invisible existence that still frequently posts in the thread. Nobody talks to me so :shrugface:
Do you see why Mages is town?
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On August 12 2014 00:37 onevone wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 00:33 Koshi wrote:On August 12 2014 00:29 onevone wrote:On August 12 2014 00:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am putting Mages to townpile aswell. By the way, it'd be more helpful if you also explained your reads while sharing them rather than just saying "X is town, Y is scum". I agree with rayn. It would be helpful if you could tell us why Mages his play is most likely coming from town. Why should rayn tell you the answers to the game? rayn is testing others if they pay attention. Why are you not paying attention? Spoilered because I am bored talking about this: + Show Spoiler +On August 12 2014 00:28 onevone wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 00:02 Damdred wrote:On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:2) MysteryMeat1 Also opened the game by downplaying himself ("I'm trash at forum mafia" etc.). This time added with fluff about Avatar and such. A couple of players see that as a scummy opening and vote for him, and I think it was probably the best target for a pressure vote this early on.After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much. He also says something like "the lynch is between me and VE now". I think he overreacts to the votes and combined with his self-trashing opening, it isn't a bad vote for now. ##Vote MysteryMeat1On August 11 2014 11:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
His first post was all "Man I'm so bad and I can already tell you that you won't want to listen to anything I say"
Obviously I'm paraphrasing. But that's the feels I got reading his post. It made my ass twitch. Ok I think I might of played to many IML games and i'm putting to much on where votes are right now. However if you don't think its scummy why even put it in your post that lead up to a vote? Dunno, I had just finished writing about Mages and moved on to MM1. Both had downplayed themselves, but MM1 also talked about Avatar, so I guess I just put it in there. Yeah you are scum. There is no reason for you to bring up again that somebody talked about Avatar in the 5 first posts of the game when everybody at that time was talking about Avatar. It is completely null that when there are people talking about watching Avatar, there is another guy who chimes in and says "I also watch avatar". There is no fucking way that you can add him talking about Avatar to something else and come to the conclusion he is scum or scummy. It's you who isn't paying attention, since I explained my town lean on Mages in one of my first posts + I've repeatedly said that the sentence about Avatar wasn't a reason for him being scum.
Stop lieing.
Here are your reads:
On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:
So, here are my brief observations from the early posts (any topics I took the effort to write down):
1) Mages
Started the game by downplaying himself, which might be new/nervous town or scummy avoiding of attention. Continued to express his thoughts after that, which makes me lean town, especially since he wasn't just following the flow of the thread but rather tried to bring his own thoughts to the discussion. Especially as a new scum player it would be somewhat hard/risky to post like that.
2) MysteryMeat1
Also opened the game by downplaying himself ("I'm trash at forum mafia" etc.). This time added with fluff about Avatar and such. A couple of players see that as a scummy opening and vote for him, and I think it was probably the best target for a pressure vote this early on.
After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much. He also says something like "the lynch is between me and VE now". I think he overreacts to the votes and combined with his self-trashing opening, it isn't a bad vote for now.
The bolded is for both people the same. They downplay their game.
BUT, the green stuff makes Mages a townread for you. While the red stuff made MM1 a scumread for you.
Clearly Avatar talk made MM1 more scummy to you. If you say that it never did, I am just calling scumhunting for this day and make sure you are lynched. Maybe you were an overzealous townie, maybe, but don't tell me you weren't scumreading MM1 partly because he talked about Avatar. Because you did.
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On August 12 2014 00:45 Sn0_Man wrote:
I don't read that post the same way koshi
Well I do. Because he ends the paragraph with saying MM1 was the best place to put your vote on early. So MM1 must be scummy. Why else is the line there about the Avatar stuff? For no reason at all?
Why would scum Mages give a townread on KoC? Can you give me a reason?
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On August 12 2014 01:25 onevone wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 01:14 Sn0_Man wrote:On August 12 2014 01:11 onevone wrote:
could be scum? better get that bandwagon started on such strong basis as "could be scum?" It's called pressure and also "beggars can't be choosers"  Would you rather still be talking about Avatar.. I prefer to talk about potential scum.
Nothing ever indicated that the avatar talk was going to go further than the 6 or so posts made about it. Again you misrepresent things to push an agenda / idea.
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The pro town move was to attack the 3 votes on mm1 and not sheep the bad wagon on him. Even if you somewhere believed he was scum. That would have been the hero town play.
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It is hard to have a strong scumread d1? I always got strong scumreads d1. Thia guys is hilarious.
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On August 12 2014 01:48 onevone wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 01:41 Koshi wrote:
The pro town move was to attack the 3 votes on mm1 and not sheep the bad wagon on him. Even if you somewhere believed he was scum. That would have been the hero town play. Why? If MM1 is indeed scum, it's a delicious opportunity to gather scum reactions. If he's town, it's also an opportunity to gather suspicious moves. It's definitely better than everyone holding their vote until the end. Attacking the wagon would achieve just that. Plus I don't even have a weak scumread on anyone else.
Because by attacking the voters you bring life in the thread. People need to post opinions. The suspicion on mm1 and his "buddy" scummers was already casted by the initial 3. By attacking the 3 you also put suspicion on those 3 so that nobody can hide.
No need to talk about it anymore though. Time for hero play is over. Nobody took it. Maybe I did as first by attacking you. What would have happened if I also voted for mm1 to gather reactions from him and his scumbuddies? We for sure wouldnt have seen your reasoning for voting mm1 is empty.
Could you please rewrite why you are still voting mm1 or why you were voting mm1? Why was his case on VE not good? I am still interested in that. It is the only reason why you are voting him not? And the avatar+downplaying stuff.
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Ugh swimming. I really need to do that soonish. It has been too long.
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On August 11 2014 08:39 Mages wrote:
Well, being that I'm new, i really don't know anybody except Damdred. I'll go ahead and share a little about myself. I'm Old, Fatherly, Tech Support Genus, and attended college for English & Chinese. When it comes to talking, I'm a little reserved normally, I blame introversion and being ridiculed by girls! My hobbies include living peacefully and camping - camping for the win. Who else wants to share? How about you. Kush?
On August 11 2014 08:48 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
hahah, don't worry about it Mages. I'm decent at video mafia, but im super trash at forum mafia. You'll see later that my cases probably need some work, so i'll be trying to focus on improving my accusations. I'm pretty extroverted, and i play a ton of sports. ATM it's summer vacation so its pretty much just work and studying for my classes in the fall. The 3 that i'm taking are all important to get into my major. I start school in a month and a half and i'm training for a tough mudder as well!
↓Is there much difference in the reply?↑
On August 11 2014 10:45 Mages wrote:
I can't help but feel I'm at a disadvantage still, people already stating townreads, all I'm seeing is introductory day 1 posting, course where im from this is a lot more than what i'm used to granted, but i will learn your ways. Is it considered a red herring for someone to so blatantly declare that they're town?
On August 11 2014 11:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Don't be afraid to put people in a "townpile" early, just so long as you're comfortable moving them out again if they give you reason to. I'd be suspicious of anyone claiming a hard, solid townread on anyone this early, but people stating early or light townreads on others is pretty common and expected.
Me claiming town is pretty much just a tradition - I'd do it as either alignment, so it's not really indicative one way or the other.
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On August 12 2014 03:20 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 03:15 Sn0_Man wrote:
Has MM1 every rolled scum and/or has anybody played mafia with MM1 before?
I've been away for a while so This is my third game with MM, Noir was the first he CC'd an actual blue claim while he was a VT and two or three other people had claimed blue as well said he wasn't going to vote for the blue ended up doing it afk'd for most of the day got the blue killed then died the next night flipped VT. The next game he was the body guard but acted like he does here almost got blown up. He is prone to afk bouts so yea its a bit difficult with him, and honestly its the way he acts every day with his initial post. I think the case on him is weak.
He was actually blown up by the town bomber.
He was also involved in the game where town cc blue BH as vanillas.
hihihi
He has a good track record then.
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Snowman is also confirmed town.
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