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On September 05 2014 04:31 MysteryMeat1 wrote:@Amiko i asked oats in particular cause he just mentioned the vote switching, but i'll ask everyone else besides HF since his answer is apparent. I'd also like to remind everyone that HF has been lieing in his claim against me, and exaggerating "truths" to get me mislynched today. He also has recognized the possibility that Show nested quote +On September 04 2014 07:20 Holyflare wrote:
he posted that he was sheeping marv after he scum read him as if it was a useful comment, he's also been very sure of things like "NUUU it's a town tell" and "no bla bla is definitely mafia" while ignoring everyone else
i wouldn't honestly be surprised if wave was mafia with oats though He has also failed to answer my question, on why he is townreading marv.
Ask everyone else what?
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The problem with the switch is there is no possible reason I can think of for switching other than to make yourself look good.
The only alignment that should be overly concerned about looking good is scum. That being said, you doing it as town fits only into one narrative I have for you being town and it's the incredibly nooby town one, because generally it's newer players who are overly concerned as town with how they look to others with more experience and 'authority.'
I've mentioned this before but there was a string of games a while ago where I looked at noob town tells such as that one and took them at face value and got burned multiple times for it---a new town meta is the easiest to emulate.
There are more reasons for you to be scum doing it than town.
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I want to talk at length about this cell if we can and I should have a whole bunch of time fairly soon.
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On September 05 2014 05:12 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
I woke up that morning, read Apathy's post and thought to myself, my top town read in that cell is pretty convinced this wade is mafia. So i end up switching my vote.
i then start walking to work and reading the thread, and when i clock in for work,, i realize that bunnies is probably mafia. However at that point its too late. The only possible way to switch my vote is 5 minutes before deadline. Instead of 4 hours before deadline.
And we just kind of have to take your word on it because similar to the issue with Oats, we have no thought process to go on.
As for the trap thing, that's a very odd reason to tear it apart when I had already done it earlier and for much better reasons.
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On September 05 2014 07:09 Holyflare wrote:
It was quite clearly a joke why the fuck would i scum read someone for being afk when i know he's afk??
Hold on a second.
Are you referring to me here?
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Then there's a problem.
If that whole trap was a joke why do you refer to it multiple times throughout your filter, subtly saying stuff like 'well wave could totes still be scum' ?
You do it in a way that's not quite calling me scum, and you just did it recently as well saying I could be scum with oats without offering any rationale.
(can't link stuff at, on phone)
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And lol you literally just did it again in the post above.
So somehow the fact that you're indecisive makes you town and when I haven't pushed stuff hard this game (let me give you a hint, the last few games I did that I was scum bussing like fucking crazy) and also can't decide between you two, I might be scummy for that as well?
Uh uh.
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On September 05 2014 07:28 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2014 07:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
Then there's a problem.
If that whole trap was a joke why do you refer to it multiple times throughout your filter, subtly saying stuff like 'well wave could totes still be scum' ?
You do it in a way that's not quite calling me scum, and you just did it recently as well saying I could be scum with oats without offering any rationale.
(can't link stuff at, on phone) You really aren't reading. He's saying i scum read you because of the trap. I said the scum reading thing was a joke.
And I don't honestly see how it was when you continually bring it up just short of all in me scum for it.
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On September 05 2014 07:30 Holyflare wrote:
My rationale for the you/oats thing is because mafia oats works with perfect info and makes it really in your face so him saying mm1's vote is a town tell when it really isn't makes me think he knows too much and could be mafia with you
So your rationale for me being possibke scum is a preflip association based on a shit meta read of SOMEONE ELSE?
gtfo.
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On September 05 2014 07:30 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2014 07:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
And lol you literally just did it again in the post above.
So somehow the fact that you're indecisive makes you town and when I haven't pushed stuff hard this game (let me give you a hint, the last few games I did that I was scum bussing like fucking crazy) and also can't decide between you two, I might be scummy for that as well?
Uh uh. Hard? You haven't pushed anything.
Of course I did. Just look through my filter. I can't link atm
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On September 05 2014 07:33 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2014 07:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Day 5 Vote count:
MysteryMeat1 (1): Holyflare to vote here. Yes wave gtfo
And what's your point?
At the Era least you consider options which is +points.
The fact that the entire thread including you has somehow shied away from developing reads on me has me spooked, like it's scum simply afraid of getting on my bad side because after amiko I'm the towniest one here.
Hell even amiko promised a read on me and didn't. It's really weird.
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Oh I actually meant to ask.
If you're going to go off of meta constantly then at least answer this.
What do the rest of mm1s games look like, after the opening?
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And mm1 I want a proper read on me before tomorrow.
You're even worse than HF in terms of avoiding talking about me and I don't like it.
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On September 05 2014 07:40 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2014 07:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh I actually meant to ask.
If you're going to go off of meta constantly then at least answer this.
What do the rest of mm1s games look like, after the opening? Don't really remember, i remember telling you vaguely but i could be wrong. It was something about analysis.
Yeah the post you linked was one of the ones I WA talking about.
You can't deny you conttlinually bring it up but I seemed to remember more overt suspicion behind it than actually there.
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On September 05 2014 07:40 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2014 07:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh I actually meant to ask.
If you're going to go off of meta constantly then at least answer this.
What do the rest of mm1s games look like, after the opening? Don't really remember, i remember telling you vaguely but i could be wrong. It was something about analysis.
Yeah I can't do filters properly on my phone. I sort of remember that too but I don't remember what.
I will look when I get home.
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And unrelated to current on versatile but I don't see scum marv taking advantage in this way
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His explanation belies something slightly more pressing behind it
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On September 05 2014 08:19 Holyflare wrote:
Don't you think wave should have SOME conclusions on our cell seeing as he's had 4 cycles to do it??
Yeah me and the rest of the game apparently.
And how is mm1 wrong BTW? Like why the fuck would i as scum insert myself into what would have to be two Townes at each others throats, and on top of that ask you to read me?
I truly don't like the fact that you say me being indecisive is somehow scummy and yet not only do you call yourself indecisive (and then point out that you've voted), but the rest of the thread hasn't decided on anything either. Just shit flinging.
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I actually think I said earlier that I'd pick mm1/oats but now I'm not so certain. I liked your analysis (but maybe I'm biased because I know it's roght)
Like the last thing I want to do is hand HF another win because I think he's town when he's not
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First of all I can't filter dive until my usual time because I'm on my phone.
Second fuck you for no original thought coming from a guy who has spammed MM1 must be scum cause TMI the entire game.
I've done plenty of analysis on the cell and now you're conveniently ignoring it when I can't bring up proof?
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