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On August 06 2014 10:16 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 10:04 GlowingBear wrote:On August 03 2014 10:50 lilwade wrote:
Current MBK
Marry- surprisingly Teemu made my marry list this time around. I think he has been more solid, although he needs to wake up again from yesterday
Bang, Poof, still very town to me I like the way he has been playing to this current post.
Bang, Tolkien, posts from being back were definitely solid and I like where he is going.
Glowing bear- I dont know whether you belong on bang or kill. Maybe if you can give me a thought process of where you are at this time I can get a better read on you.
Seeya - You were also leaning kill list for me but I doubt the wagon would switch to you on short notice, I will most definitely read you up and down through the next phase
Meat - Right now I feel like you are getting out of your old self and looking better, sadly I still have you on the bottom of this list. You are more likely than not tied with GB and Seeya so if you want me to get off teh nuts then give me a raisin why. This is his last "reads" post before the claim. He still brings nothing!!! Full of "I'm not sure, i have to filter dive you" Page four on his filter! Man I can get this out of my head this idea that he is pocketing us! His filter is full of null reads! I can quote posts if you want but his filter is only 5 pages long, it won't take really long if you look! The only way hes mafia is if hes mafia with Seeya. Literally the only way. Because there is no reason for him to claim and come under suspicion the next day for no reason when he could have just pushed with me on seeya (assuming in this case that lilwade is the last one or something) Like what does he possibly gain? Other than suspicion.
Because if he claims now and buddy up with Seeya (as you can see, he even said it was up to them to decide who to lynch, and you can see that Seeya is pretty happy with lilwade), he will be able to mislynch any townie (he is mafia and a lynch on him is not being considerated). It will reduce to 4 townies, right?
Then he kills someone during night, keeping seeyalater alive. 3 alive. Lilwade+Seeyalater VS last town. It is a good risk to take, considering I started day3 pushing him.
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You see, before he claimed, Tolkien was already saying that he wouldn't mind lynching lilwade because he was disappointed with him. I started a push. Claiming cop completely shifted direction of lynches.
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On August 06 2014 09:02 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 08:52 Tehpoofter wrote:On August 06 2014 08:47 GlowingBear wrote:On July 31 2014 20:01 Tehpoofter wrote:
Meatcake I agree came out overly defensive.
Meatbrownies what do you think the most townie thing in your defense was? Like if you were reading Meatpie from an outsiders prospective what would your read on Meatcookie be?
Teemu if Meatstruddel is town who is most likely to be mafia?
Same question to Jenny if Meatdessert is mafia/town who is more likely to be mafia with him/mafia because of it?
Lilwayne what incentive does RomanNumeralGuy have to just afk and vote Meatpastry? If Meatchocolate is mafia its a good play but if Meatyogurt is town its just a way to get an easy misslynch on MeatCheeseCake.
RomannumeralGuy if Meaticecream is lynched over you what will you do to project town more the rest of the game?
I'm seriously considering changing my vote over to Meatpudding before I go to bed.
This was said just before I changed my vote to 666. Do you understand now what I say when we have two consolidated wagons, mafia can easily switch votes, Tolkien? If I kept my vote on meatpudding, he would die. If poof changed his vote before, he would also die. I said I could switch and that I was considering it but CHOSE not to. I started that lynch and killed a mafia I rallied people onto it. JEnny hoped on because of me. I tried to make meat see why he was townie. I reevaluated and posted and cared about who posted and was rallying the troops. I think this game for me is lynch GB cause of the claim then lynch SEeya who is probably the god father. If I'm alive I'd reevaluate the whole game but I won't be surprised if we lynch you and win. I'm never going to let myself get lyncehd its impossible after all the work I've done this game and who I've pushed on and why. Yeah, your effort really says a lot and yeah, you started that push on 666. That's why I'm considering lynching you but I prefer to lynch seeya. After all you've done I believe seeya is a better lynch but I have enough reasons to vote you if I consider that you decided to bus and pocket every townie. It makes sense when I read your further posts. Poof, read everything I said day3. Really, read it and say if you still believe I'm mafia. I have NO mafia traits, man! Look, we all agree at some point that, without lilwade's check, cya has mafia traits. Lets consolidate our votes on him. He is the only person we agree to lynch second, at least. Townies should agree on a target at this point.
Ok real quick, I'll just leave this here, my quick rundown of what would happen with every lynch today, and they end up to be misses, with the info we have so far, and my own alignment(town), 0 particular order-
1. We lynch Tolkien, Both wade and I lose our top towns, but wade gets one more night to get a check if he doesn't die. If he does die, then the last remaining mafia between poof and GB will try to throw scum on me as possible for being "Godfather." This is probably the second worst lynch IMO we could make today, because Tolkien has been the only one to read me correctly this whole game as a VT, and wouldn't just tunnel on me and try to see things clearly, instead of probably letting the other mafia walk all over him. If he doesn't die, then its actually a 50/50% chance if the last other mafia is not a godfather(which seems odd to me at the moment, with how much GB and Poof are trying to argue that there has to be one). Then 50% we win easy in last 3, or 50% wade has to make the right call on who he believes is mafia and hammer them.
2. We lynch myself. Now this one I know its a miss, so that leaves wade, GB, poof, and tolk. Here most likely wade will die in the night, since with me being proven VT, it almost, ALMOST, 100% confirms him as town, and I don't think they want to risk a red check into final 3. So that leaves our 3 unconfirmed to duke it out and see who comes out on top. At this point I think it could be anyone's game, though my biggest fear in THIS particular situation is that GB is actually town, because he could probably be easily mislynched here. If wade were to survive, and gets a redcheck, he just has to convince the last town that he is the actual cop(which should not be hard at all), and should be an easy win. If he gets another green, then things could be dicey because it'll once again fall on him to hammer the right mafia. So this situation is almost as bad as situation 1.
3. We Lynch wade(lol). Probably the worst decision at this point, but lets roll with it. So we lynch him and find out he truly is the cop. That leaves me, tolk, poof, and gb. At this point it's almost impossible in my eyes for mafia to kill me, since who is in my mafia circle right now is trying to push on the whole, godfather thing on me. So most likely, Tolk dies during the night. So this leaves me with the task of convincing the last town, while me myself not sure who it is, that they're dumb for reading me as anything else aside from donkey town. Luckily this is the worst lynch for today so at least we save ourselves this. If Tolk doesn't die in the night, then hopefully if he is town he keeps reading me correctly, but if he's mafia it might not be so bad since he'll have to switch his biggest scum read on to him, which would hopefully help my fellow townie read me correctly.
4. We Lynch GB. This leaves me, wade, tolk, poof. Once again, wade will almost 100% die in the night. If he doesn't, then I'm almost sure I'll be the one to die in the night, since if they leave me alive, they'll have to convince wade that I'm godfather, instead of just trying to tunnel on the other unconfirmed. then once again, there's a 50/50% chance he gets a redcheck on the last mafia, and if the last town isn't and donkey and follows his check, once again it's an easy town win. If he get's a green, then again it won't be as easy, but at least there will be a strong town voice in the end in my book. If he does die, that leaves tolk, me, and poof. At this point, us last two townies have to hopefully hammer correctly, and not let the third tunnel on mislynching me. It could get tricky here since I'm a donkey, but I'll try to do my best to follow mine, and other's intuitions at this point and make the best possible guess on who is mafia.
5. We lynch Poof. This leaves me, wade, tolk, gb. Night sceneries are basically the same as scenario above, so since I'm time constrained(just got off work, typing this on work computer), I'm not going to rewrite it all, but the gist of the night action stays the same. This would again, if left alive, leave wade with a 50/50% on who last mafia is, and all he has to do is convince the last town that he's the cop, which should hopefully not be a hard endeavor. If he dies and I livve, it has me, tolk, and GB. If GB is the last mafia here, then I just have to convince tolk that I'm the last town, and win. If tolk is the last maf, it will be a hard win for town because atm I can't see GB as townier than tolk, but once again I will try my best if it comes down to this.
My main reason for writing this all down, is not just for everyone else to see, but also to consider our best path right now. At the moment, options 4 and 5 are where I am leaning, but everyone please let me know where you are, and I'll be back once I'm home and stuffz.
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On August 06 2014 10:16 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 10:04 GlowingBear wrote:On August 03 2014 10:50 lilwade wrote:
Current MBK
Marry- surprisingly Teemu made my marry list this time around. I think he has been more solid, although he needs to wake up again from yesterday
Bang, Poof, still very town to me I like the way he has been playing to this current post.
Bang, Tolkien, posts from being back were definitely solid and I like where he is going.
Glowing bear- I dont know whether you belong on bang or kill. Maybe if you can give me a thought process of where you are at this time I can get a better read on you.
Seeya - You were also leaning kill list for me but I doubt the wagon would switch to you on short notice, I will most definitely read you up and down through the next phase
Meat - Right now I feel like you are getting out of your old self and looking better, sadly I still have you on the bottom of this list. You are more likely than not tied with GB and Seeya so if you want me to get off teh nuts then give me a raisin why. This is his last "reads" post before the claim. He still brings nothing!!! Full of "I'm not sure, i have to filter dive you" Page four on his filter! Man I can get this out of my head this idea that he is pocketing us! His filter is full of null reads! I can quote posts if you want but his filter is only 5 pages long, it won't take really long if you look! The only way hes mafia is if hes mafia with Seeya. Literally the only way. Because there is no reason for him to claim and come under suspicion the next day for no reason when he could have just pushed with me on seeya (assuming in this case that lilwade is the last one or something) Like what does he possibly gain? Other than suspicion.
Agreed, and this is why I have almost no choice but to believe in his claim. It's not, TOO perfect, but that perfect balance of perfect/inperfect.
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What's the current vote count anyways? I'm waiting for wade to hopefully come in and lead in a direction(that hopefully points to a place I'm pointing towards) before casting my vote.
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SEeya its not that I think there has to be a godfather... its just that I think you're a scumbag and believe lilwade.
Gb probably going to be the lynch today cause its the one that makes most sense to me. I really hope we win today cause if not final 3 is bad.
Your list of all scenarios reads like a mafia wanting to give a reason why he is alive in every scenario of lynch tomorrow. Especially with comments like "the last mafia will try to push me as the kill" which is bogus.I know I'm town and I STILL think you have a high chance of flipping red. I could be wrong but I think you being thought of as suspicious doesn't make someone mafia. Going into final 3 everyone should be evaluated as a whole for all interactions.
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Ehh screw it
##VOTE GlowingBear
DISCLAIMER-Still not set in stone, but its better to vote right now in case the unthinkable happens.
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On August 06 2014 10:46 Seeyalater wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 10:16 Tehpoofter wrote:On August 06 2014 10:04 GlowingBear wrote:On August 03 2014 10:50 lilwade wrote:
Current MBK
Marry- surprisingly Teemu made my marry list this time around. I think he has been more solid, although he needs to wake up again from yesterday
Bang, Poof, still very town to me I like the way he has been playing to this current post.
Bang, Tolkien, posts from being back were definitely solid and I like where he is going.
Glowing bear- I dont know whether you belong on bang or kill. Maybe if you can give me a thought process of where you are at this time I can get a better read on you.
Seeya - You were also leaning kill list for me but I doubt the wagon would switch to you on short notice, I will most definitely read you up and down through the next phase
Meat - Right now I feel like you are getting out of your old self and looking better, sadly I still have you on the bottom of this list. You are more likely than not tied with GB and Seeya so if you want me to get off teh nuts then give me a raisin why. This is his last "reads" post before the claim. He still brings nothing!!! Full of "I'm not sure, i have to filter dive you" Page four on his filter! Man I can get this out of my head this idea that he is pocketing us! His filter is full of null reads! I can quote posts if you want but his filter is only 5 pages long, it won't take really long if you look! The only way hes mafia is if hes mafia with Seeya. Literally the only way. Because there is no reason for him to claim and come under suspicion the next day for no reason when he could have just pushed with me on seeya (assuming in this case that lilwade is the last one or something) Like what does he possibly gain? Other than suspicion. Agreed, and this is why I have almost no choice but to believe in his claim. It's not, TOO perfect, but that perfect balance of perfect/inperfect.
Its not perfect or anything its a claim. Hopefully I was just wrong on you last night and its GB although tbh hes tried way harder than any of you other three the last couple days baring maybe tolkien.
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On August 06 2014 10:48 Tehpoofter wrote:
SEeya its not that I think there has to be a godfather... its just that I think you're a scumbag and believe lilwade.
Gb probably going to be the lynch today cause its the one that makes most sense to me. I really hope we win today cause if not final 3 is bad.
Your list of all scenarios reads like a mafia wanting to give a reason why he is alive in every scenario of lynch tomorrow. Especially with comments like "the last mafia will try to push me as the kill" which is bogus.I know I'm town and I STILL think you have a high chance of flipping red. I could be wrong but I think you being thought of as suspicious doesn't make someone mafia. Going into final 3 everyone should be evaluated as a whole for all interactions.
I'm not saying it makes someone suspicious for thinking I'm mafia, but me knowing I'm town, makes me see them as scum. And it might come to a point where I have to argue against that.
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Votecount is like this:
Poof (1): Tolkien
Seeyalater (1): Glowingbear
Glowingbear (2): Poof, Seeyalater
Not Voting: lilwade
The mother fucker isn't even voting. Geez. I'll be so mad if he is mafia.
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Oops I said mother fucker but in a kind way, ok? Not meant to be rude.
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On August 06 2014 11:09 GlowingBear wrote:
Oops I said mother fucker but in a kind way, ok? Not meant to be rude.
Think you're fine lol, it didn't sound overtly rude.
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Poof, I will repeat it again: you're doing the same mistake as you did last game.
If you're town you KNOW I've been contributing way more than cya. You understand that I've been really busy last couple of days. I still am but I am sacrificing some precious time to win this game. I'm telling you again: read my filter, specially day3, and tell me if I'm not townier than seeyalater.
Remember that lilwade could be fake claiming or that seeyalater could be godfather. Believe more on your reads.
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On August 06 2014 11:13 GlowingBear wrote:
Poof, I will repeat it again: you're doing the same mistake as you did last game.
If you're town you KNOW I've been contributing way more than cya. You understand that I've been really busy last couple of days. I still am but I am sacrificing some precious time to win this game. I'm telling you again: read my filter, specially day3, and tell me if I'm not townier than seeyalater.
Remember that lilwade could be fake claiming or that seeyalater could be godfather. Believe more on your reads.
I have to wonder, why are you only pleading to him and not me? I also have a vote on you beetehdubs, why not try to plead to both of us? The only reason I can think for this, is 1. you're the last mafia and you're trying to plead with Poof who has been riding on me this whole time, and "choose" not to believe wade and/or me at the moment because you know wade was right on the greencheck, or you are just as donkey as I am(even if you do think otherwise) and fail to even grasp that concept.
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LILWADE, I want you explain me this. Check what I put on red.
On August 01 2014 11:25 lilwade wrote:
Marry
Still a bachelor atm
Bang
Poofter I really dig that you followed me up earlier on DC and held your ground big points to you for that. We might have to move to a different state that allows said proposals, but I never marry prematurely. P.S. No matter how many times I look at your name I want to call you poofster.
Jenny - I know you do not see what a knight in shining armor I am but furthur investigations might change your mind
To me you are the most town so far w/ poofter close behind
Sadly these are the only two I really trust atm.
Kill
Meatpudding - Honestly take no heed to this next statement but, I have a hunch that he may be godfather but I don't know why he would give up this early. He does seem super scummy but more to come on Meatpudding day 2. I really almost feel sorry for the guy, he could have at least made a case for himself.
People who dont strike me a town, but I am not willing to kill of just yet.
Teemu - Good activity recently, the big problem his is you deflect a lot. Player x says i think thats scummy and you say well i think you are scummy for saying that. be more honest and open and be prepared to back yourself when someone asks why
Seeya - I brought you up earlier in the game for fluffing long messages and you said you would do your best to be more concise. Still waiting for it.
Gb - you are honestly unreadable atm to me. On one hand your thought process seems good, but on the other hand you seem to want to give in to fast or not be put in a position where you need to create a solid defense for yourself
Tolkien - I like that you are ready to go now, I just need you to push your ideas around a bit more and lets get rollin.
On August 05 2014 17:13 lilwade wrote:
Operation Town Victory
Ok guys, let us get this game on the right track for town win.
We have 5 players left and potentially 1-2 mafias members alive.
Plan
I am town cop.
N1: I investigated teemu, sadly he just passed away last night.
N2: I investigated Seeyalater and guess what Green check good to go (hopefully you will team up with me here)
Basically me and seeya have to decide on which one of you remaining 3 players tolkien, poof, GB is actually town so we can lynch the remaining mafia.
If there is only 1 mafia member left we have a huge change at the outright victory.
Here are my current townie rankings
1) Lord Tolkien, I think you are very much town, and your recent filter is outstanding.
2) Poofter, I think there is a good possibility you bused DC day 1 to pocket the remaining town, but chances are that would be more unlikely. Your recent posts are good as well and I would like to see what you have to say to me now.
3) GB I was never able to get a good read on you throughout the day 1 and night 1 phases, As of late I am still undecided that is why you are #3
Ride or die,
Any questions ladies?
I really need you to explain that.
Poof, notice what I kept on red on second quote. He is buddying up with cya. Supports my theory.
The guy isn't even here to help us with the lynch.
I'll ask again: check his filters, a lot of null reads throughout the entire game. He starts agressive with poof, then easily unvotes and gives poof a townpass, sheeps poof and doesn't change vote on a possible mafia partner because he couldn't get the hammer off anyway, the he goes COMPLETELY passive. A LOT of null reads. Like the one I've just quoted, or this one, with a translation by me:
+ Show Spoiler +On July 30 2014 10:26 lilwade wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2014 10:15 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 30 2014 10:11 lilwade wrote:On July 30 2014 09:59 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 30 2014 09:12 lilwade wrote:On July 30 2014 09:02 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 30 2014 08:41 JennyHell wrote:
In video mafia if someone is softing a role, you're not supposed to point it out to people... That's why it's softing, not hard claiming. They're trying to keep it on a down low, in hopes that mafia will not pick up on it. My soft was a little too obvious to be soft. It does worry me that he pointed it out cause yeah you generally shouldn't talk about it.  I disagree completely, I think you knew it was obvious and I think you are the type to be fastidious in what you do. From what I have seen so far if you wanted to soft a role you could be more discrete. First off I doubt the bolded is a real word. 2nd) It honestly was a typo that I noticed afterwards. Kinda cool that it looked like a breadcrumb (it probably was and this is me just trying to not die) C) I feel like the way that you reacted to it was weird like you were wanting to let us know you're paying attention. You're a slippery one lilwade. What is your mafia experience? I have played maybe 6 games of mafia in my time. The forums I play them on people don't really care so I got bored of that. I came here because a buddy of mine said it was a lot higher caliber and I am in to that.  P.S. fastidious means you pay close attention to detail. Fair enough. What do you think of Teemu? and if I'm wrong on one of my marry or bangs who do you think it is? Teemu started off active he kind of dabbled in some good questions but pursue like I would have, he had a lot of filler posts to appear more active, and he has currently been asleep for almost 16 hours. If I had to question your marry bang kill list i would say: 1) I am not so sure that there are any marry's here yet, kudus for you actually choosing someone tho Jennyhell seems to be very active and appear townie, albeit, I never make a true top town d1 2) I am on your kill list when I the town hero, you may not see it now but d2 is when the big boys come to play. 3) A bit quick to judge seeya, I think he has had some solid posts and is trying to contribute to town.
"Nobody is mafia, nobody is town, and if you're reading me as mafia you're doing it wrong. I'll show I'm good at day2 if you let me live. I'm still charging solar beam lol"
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On August 06 2014 11:47 Seeyalater wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 11:13 GlowingBear wrote:
Poof, I will repeat it again: you're doing the same mistake as you did last game.
If you're town you KNOW I've been contributing way more than cya. You understand that I've been really busy last couple of days. I still am but I am sacrificing some precious time to win this game. I'm telling you again: read my filter, specially day3, and tell me if I'm not townier than seeyalater.
Remember that lilwade could be fake claiming or that seeyalater could be godfather. Believe more on your reads. I have to wonder, why are you only pleading to him and not me? I also have a vote on you beetehdubs, why not try to plead to both of us? The only reason I can think for this, is 1. you're the last mafia and you're trying to plead with Poof who has been riding on me this whole time, and "choose" not to believe wade and/or me at the moment because you know wade was right on the greencheck, or you are just as donkey as I am(even if you do think otherwise) and fail to even grasp that concept.
Because I know the way he plays and I'm sure he will find the same patterns he found last game.
The only thing I've got to convince you are the arguments I bring to the table, which are... well... on the table, already.
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Lilwade should be around more. Lilwade you had the plan of finding one town. Have you done so? Are you trying?
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On August 06 2014 12:21 Tehpoofter wrote:
Lilwade should be around more. Lilwade you had the plan of finding one town. Have you done so? Are you trying?
Check the red parts, tell me what you think.
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On August 06 2014 12:22 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 12:21 Tehpoofter wrote:
Lilwade should be around more. Lilwade you had the plan of finding one town. Have you done so? Are you trying? Check the red parts, tell me what you think.
I read it. I need to sleep on it really but like lilwade needs to come in and explain his plan. If hes the cop so far today hes done a meh job. I like him as town and believe him but it would ease a bit of worry.
I still think he played like the cop for most of the game though.
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I have to settle a bit. Just saw that you didn't start the trend on 666.
Lilwade has got all the mafia traits IMO. I'm putting my vote on him again. He needs to explain the red part that I quoted.
##Unvote
##Vote: lilwade
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