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Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
August 02 2014 20:44 GMT
#1081
On August 03 2014 04:35 lilwade wrote:
She's having a girl baby emily )


I read this as "She's having a baby Emily" like emily was some third gender previously unknown....

Anyways congrats!
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
August 02 2014 20:45 GMT
#1082
On August 03 2014 02:16 Seeyalater wrote:
Yeah, its still semi early in NA though. Plus we lost one of the most active people last night. We should just pull the slack for them.

What do you think about my argument on you?


RIP Jenny "Batman" Hell
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
August 02 2014 20:46 GMT
#1083
On August 03 2014 02:35 HaruRH wrote:
Vote Count – Day 2



Teemursu (0): Tehpoofter
meatpudding (3): GlowingBear, Lord Tolkien, seeyalater
GlowingBear (2): Tehpoofter, Teemursu
Not voting (2): The rest of you kids


Currently, Meatpudding is set to be lynched with 3 votes.

Please contact the mods if the vote count is incorrect. Thank you!

Day 2 will end in (14:00 GMT (+00:00)).


These wagons are fine with me. Can we debate between these two for the rest of the day? I really feel like mafia is in here.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
August 02 2014 20:50 GMT
#1084
MeatPole you going to be around today at all? Or you taking a MeatPottering day?

Trying to lynch some mafia if you're interested. Provide a Town....[image loading]+ Show Spoiler +
seal
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
August 02 2014 20:52 GMT
#1085
On August 02 2014 15:31 Seeyalater wrote:
Alright after rereading everything that's happened so far since the successful day 1 lynch this is currently where I currently stand.

Bang-

Poofter- Alright I give up. If you really are mafia this game, then you can have my babies, because even I just can't see you being mafia when you've been very consice about everything and have looked at everything objectively. Plus with Jenny-chan dead, I really don't think you would kill someone who would probably defend you to the death when someone tried to push scum on you. Don't think if anyone's brought that up, but since most of the players here know you, its also a very anti-Poofter kill as well. Not only that, but all your cases are awesome and basically bring up the status quo of where we are right now. Now you might think this is only me trying to get you to stop your push on me, but on the contrary, I like the fair and equal pushing you are doing on everyone.

Tolkien- Still high in my town list for always being objective. Also one of the few people to see me for what I am, a donkey town. Some bonus points for being the hammer vote at the end of the day 1. your post
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 22:47 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Random collection of thoughts:

I'm fairly certain DC was bussed. Given he had literally no defense of himself, either he gave up when the jig was up, so to speak, or was deliberately dying to advance mafia interests. Or perhaps abit of both, idk. But literally posting nothing but a vote change is about as white flag and suspicious as all hell, and leads me to conclude he was bussed.

Two possibilities: Either it's to deflect from meatpudding, who was a mafia power role and thus preferential to keep alive if both are up for lynch (but that assumes we lucked out on two mafia bandwagons D1: something I feel isn't very likely, and that mafia has a power role, which isnt confirmed and is thus speculation), or to cover for someone who is now currently on the DC train. I'm scrutinizing GB, but there seems little incentive to swap so late after the silence from DC was seriously deafening, or to be the "decisive vote" (how he was painted that I have no idea).

Assuming he was bussed then, either this was a pre-meditated part of mafia strategy (and mafia could've even started the wagon) since as a D1 mafia kill, this was too "easy", or spur of the moment. It significantly impacts who's under the microscope on the vote list, I think.

Or perhaps its super WIFOM and the mafia stayed on meat, but given how there was no defense of DC, it makes little/no sense.

I'm actually looking at TehPoofter again given the possibility of bussing here. But given a votelist analysis under the assumption of bussing, without ANY prior reads I'd say the following.


People who should be a D2 wagon:
Meatpudding (unless things change drastically, step it up)

People who are suspicious as all hell:
GB
Me (even tho confirmed town)

People who should be reviewed carefully:
Banks
Jenny
lilwade

People who are most likely stupid town (like srs, DC put up no defense whatsoever):
Teemu
Seeya

If you're mafia, fuck you. Everything's locked in. :D

Is probably the most concise d2 post I've seen looking at objectively. Yes others have said basically nearly the same thing, but you put it in the best terms, and bonus points for not calling anyone "town"

Lilwade- not much has changed here since N1 where I had you high on my town list for being the first to hammer Clockwork, but have much like me, your involvement d2 has been very sporadic so I'll leave you here for now.

Bang

Teemu- Still have you leaning town. I feel like, our relationship this game started off as bitter rivals, and has now transformed as two lovers joined together by the power of the donkey. This is going to sound like sheeping, but although you are very active and propose good questions, you seem about as confused as I am to this whole thing. Basically after my push on you in day 1, and realizing how bad it was, I've basically turned lethargic and went from long posts trying to find scum in you, to sheeping a good amount of thoughts, which is what I feel you have done as well(though not as badly as me).

Kill-

These are basically the two scenarios I have left when it comes to these two.

The first is the very obvious MP- not much to be said here. If he is the last mafia, he got really unlucky and rolled mafia with another lurker and basically tried during his few active moments to first appear town by trying to make consise reads(which he never delivered). When that failed due probably to lack of information, his strategy moved to pushing on Teemu, since the only other push availible other than his partner was himself, which left him between a rock and a hard place. Again since he wasn't around much, he probably just remembered the push that was going on Teemu d1, and tried to go back in time when that was a very hot topic to push on Teemu. However sadly for him, our time travel devices had a short fuse and did not go back in time with him, so his desperate push has lead nowhere. Another thing I've noticed about him in the past couple days. These guy has basically no town circle. I've gone through his filter and there are no real posts where he either tries to match his opinions on others, or talk about who he thinks are town. He's playing like he's the last man left alive in town, when in reality there's a high chance he's the last man alright, but the last mafia man.


Then we have Glowingbear- I've usually had GB on my neutral to scum list- mainly because as others have stated, his posting style changes quite a bit from time to time. My theory on this is basically he's trying to play two different personalities this game. There's his blending into town personality, where he posts in a friendly demeanor, such as at the start of day, or at the beginning of the game. But then every now and then, it shifts into the other, scum slinging, hyper defensive personality. For example, just after day 1 we've had a few examples of this. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/462654-newbie-mini-mafia-lvii?page=39#776 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/462654-newbie-mini-mafia-lvii?page=41#816 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/462654-newbie-mini-mafia-lvii?page=42#827 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/462654-newbie-mini-mafia-lvii?page=51#1016. What do these posts have in common? Paranoia. And not paranoia about someone else being mafia, its paranoia about others seeing HIM as mafia. That could be him as town being shocked that his "super" townie play is being questioned, but these reactions have been awful. Also, while I may post a lot of fluff as some people say, if you go through GB's filter, he really doesn't bring much to the table either. His biggest "case" against someone was his very flawed case about me and Jenny. At first I thought of this as just being a donkey town case, but I don't think I can anymore. He also seemed extremely proud to have been the one to hammer Clockwork, and seemed paranoid being getting n1'd for it, but when others brought to light that it wasn't him that brought the hammer, it also makes that reaction bad. My guess if he is the last mafia? He realized very early D1 that it was going to be a very hard game since clockwork had basically done nothing to their side in almost all of day 1, and caught a chance to ride the bus on him with Poof and Jenny to appear supper town, and bussed his teammate hoping to fool everyone and coast to victory having fooled town. That also explains his super confused posts above about him being considered for lynch, since what he thought was a great plan, was not as flawless as he thought. Plus he never showed his sixpack to me.


I'm still on the MP safer train barring anything major happening in the next few hours, but if he is not mafia, at this point I'm almost convinced it has to be GB, unless he can prove he isn't.



This is a Texas caliber post. Big, useful, seems pretty good natured. I think you need to stick around and convince me why MeatPolice is more mafia than GlowingBeard
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
August 02 2014 20:57 GMT
#1086
On August 02 2014 17:00 Teemursu wrote:
Banks where did I call you mafia during n1?


I meant during Real life N1 ... so like midway through day 1 lol. When you talked to yourself for like a whole page. ;P
Seeyalater
Profile Joined July 2014
United States217 Posts
August 02 2014 21:11 GMT
#1087
On August 03 2014 05:35 Tehpoofter wrote:
Alright town Lets....[image loading]
The deal today and find the mafia!

Lets harp seal?
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
August 02 2014 21:13 GMT
#1088
Lets Seal the deal... come on now.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
August 02 2014 21:16 GMT
#1089
lilwayne and MeatPunch We need you two to show up and show us where you at!!!

Teemu you still awake?

MeatPlunger what is my incentive for not voting on you if you aren't here
meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
August 02 2014 21:18 GMT
#1090
Hi guys. Good morning.

I'm starting to think seeya might be on track. So for now
##Vote: GlowingBear
I'be been wary of GB for a while. I think there is a tone to your posts, that make me feel you are not going o win with the town.
Tolkien and lilwade, I would be looking at you 2 as well.
Be excellent to each other.
Seeyalater
Profile Joined July 2014
United States217 Posts
August 02 2014 21:19 GMT
#1091
On August 03 2014 05:52 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2014 15:31 Seeyalater wrote:
Alright after rereading everything that's happened so far since the successful day 1 lynch this is currently where I currently stand.

Bang-

Poofter- Alright I give up. If you really are mafia this game, then you can have my babies, because even I just can't see you being mafia when you've been very consice about everything and have looked at everything objectively. Plus with Jenny-chan dead, I really don't think you would kill someone who would probably defend you to the death when someone tried to push scum on you. Don't think if anyone's brought that up, but since most of the players here know you, its also a very anti-Poofter kill as well. Not only that, but all your cases are awesome and basically bring up the status quo of where we are right now. Now you might think this is only me trying to get you to stop your push on me, but on the contrary, I like the fair and equal pushing you are doing on everyone.

Tolkien- Still high in my town list for always being objective. Also one of the few people to see me for what I am, a donkey town. Some bonus points for being the hammer vote at the end of the day 1. your post
On August 01 2014 22:47 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Random collection of thoughts:

I'm fairly certain DC was bussed. Given he had literally no defense of himself, either he gave up when the jig was up, so to speak, or was deliberately dying to advance mafia interests. Or perhaps abit of both, idk. But literally posting nothing but a vote change is about as white flag and suspicious as all hell, and leads me to conclude he was bussed.

Two possibilities: Either it's to deflect from meatpudding, who was a mafia power role and thus preferential to keep alive if both are up for lynch (but that assumes we lucked out on two mafia bandwagons D1: something I feel isn't very likely, and that mafia has a power role, which isnt confirmed and is thus speculation), or to cover for someone who is now currently on the DC train. I'm scrutinizing GB, but there seems little incentive to swap so late after the silence from DC was seriously deafening, or to be the "decisive vote" (how he was painted that I have no idea).

Assuming he was bussed then, either this was a pre-meditated part of mafia strategy (and mafia could've even started the wagon) since as a D1 mafia kill, this was too "easy", or spur of the moment. It significantly impacts who's under the microscope on the vote list, I think.

Or perhaps its super WIFOM and the mafia stayed on meat, but given how there was no defense of DC, it makes little/no sense.

I'm actually looking at TehPoofter again given the possibility of bussing here. But given a votelist analysis under the assumption of bussing, without ANY prior reads I'd say the following.


People who should be a D2 wagon:
Meatpudding (unless things change drastically, step it up)

People who are suspicious as all hell:
GB
Me (even tho confirmed town)

People who should be reviewed carefully:
Banks
Jenny
lilwade

People who are most likely stupid town (like srs, DC put up no defense whatsoever):
Teemu
Seeya

If you're mafia, fuck you. Everything's locked in. :D

Is probably the most concise d2 post I've seen looking at objectively. Yes others have said basically nearly the same thing, but you put it in the best terms, and bonus points for not calling anyone "town"

Lilwade- not much has changed here since N1 where I had you high on my town list for being the first to hammer Clockwork, but have much like me, your involvement d2 has been very sporadic so I'll leave you here for now.

Bang

Teemu- Still have you leaning town. I feel like, our relationship this game started off as bitter rivals, and has now transformed as two lovers joined together by the power of the donkey. This is going to sound like sheeping, but although you are very active and propose good questions, you seem about as confused as I am to this whole thing. Basically after my push on you in day 1, and realizing how bad it was, I've basically turned lethargic and went from long posts trying to find scum in you, to sheeping a good amount of thoughts, which is what I feel you have done as well(though not as badly as me).

Kill-

These are basically the two scenarios I have left when it comes to these two.

The first is the very obvious MP- not much to be said here. If he is the last mafia, he got really unlucky and rolled mafia with another lurker and basically tried during his few active moments to first appear town by trying to make consise reads(which he never delivered). When that failed due probably to lack of information, his strategy moved to pushing on Teemu, since the only other push availible other than his partner was himself, which left him between a rock and a hard place. Again since he wasn't around much, he probably just remembered the push that was going on Teemu d1, and tried to go back in time when that was a very hot topic to push on Teemu. However sadly for him, our time travel devices had a short fuse and did not go back in time with him, so his desperate push has lead nowhere. Another thing I've noticed about him in the past couple days. These guy has basically no town circle. I've gone through his filter and there are no real posts where he either tries to match his opinions on others, or talk about who he thinks are town. He's playing like he's the last man left alive in town, when in reality there's a high chance he's the last man alright, but the last mafia man.


Then we have Glowingbear- I've usually had GB on my neutral to scum list- mainly because as others have stated, his posting style changes quite a bit from time to time. My theory on this is basically he's trying to play two different personalities this game. There's his blending into town personality, where he posts in a friendly demeanor, such as at the start of day, or at the beginning of the game. But then every now and then, it shifts into the other, scum slinging, hyper defensive personality. For example, just after day 1 we've had a few examples of this. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/462654-newbie-mini-mafia-lvii?page=39#776 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/462654-newbie-mini-mafia-lvii?page=41#816 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/462654-newbie-mini-mafia-lvii?page=42#827 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/462654-newbie-mini-mafia-lvii?page=51#1016. What do these posts have in common? Paranoia. And not paranoia about someone else being mafia, its paranoia about others seeing HIM as mafia. That could be him as town being shocked that his "super" townie play is being questioned, but these reactions have been awful. Also, while I may post a lot of fluff as some people say, if you go through GB's filter, he really doesn't bring much to the table either. His biggest "case" against someone was his very flawed case about me and Jenny. At first I thought of this as just being a donkey town case, but I don't think I can anymore. He also seemed extremely proud to have been the one to hammer Clockwork, and seemed paranoid being getting n1'd for it, but when others brought to light that it wasn't him that brought the hammer, it also makes that reaction bad. My guess if he is the last mafia? He realized very early D1 that it was going to be a very hard game since clockwork had basically done nothing to their side in almost all of day 1, and caught a chance to ride the bus on him with Poof and Jenny to appear supper town, and bussed his teammate hoping to fool everyone and coast to victory having fooled town. That also explains his super confused posts above about him being considered for lynch, since what he thought was a great plan, was not as flawless as he thought. Plus he never showed his sixpack to me.


I'm still on the MP safer train barring anything major happening in the next few hours, but if he is not mafia, at this point I'm almost convinced it has to be GB, unless he can prove he isn't.



This is a Texas caliber post. Big, useful, seems pretty good natured. I think you need to stick around and convince me why MeatPolice is more mafia than GlowingBeard

The reasoning is pretty straight forward still. Huge lurker, disinterest in the game. I mean, look at his demeanor when he checks in once maybe every 24 hours. They seem so... soulless. Its almost like he is being forced by someone to actually check in and make a couple of posts. Not to mention, more than half his posts just repeat the same point over and over. At this point he sounds like a broken cd player. Even if you don't have much time to check in on the game(like Tolkien), you should still be able to have a clear case of where town in as a whole, instead of tunneling on 1-2 people like he has. If you really think GB is a better lynch for today, then I'd like to hear your reasoning on it to possibly switch the wagon with you. GB almost seems to have given up as well....
Seeyalater
Profile Joined July 2014
United States217 Posts
August 02 2014 21:22 GMT
#1092
On August 03 2014 06:18 meatpudding wrote:
Hi guys. Good morning.

I'm starting to think seeya might be on track. So for now
##Vote: GlowingBear
I'be been wary of GB for a while. I think there is a tone to your posts, that make me feel you are not going o win with the town.
Tolkien and lilwade, I would be looking at you 2 as well.

Is... is that it?
meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
August 02 2014 21:38 GMT
#1093
On August 03 2014 06:22 Seeyalater wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2014 06:18 meatpudding wrote:
Hi guys. Good morning.

I'm starting to think seeya might be on track. So for now
##Vote: GlowingBear
I'be been wary of GB for a while. I think there is a tone to your posts, that make me feel you are not going o win with the town.
Tolkien and lilwade, I would be looking at you 2 as well.

Is... is that it?

Is ii what?
Be excellent to each other.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
August 02 2014 21:49 GMT
#1094
On August 03 2014 06:38 meatpudding wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2014 06:22 Seeyalater wrote:
On August 03 2014 06:18 meatpudding wrote:
Hi guys. Good morning.

I'm starting to think seeya might be on track. So for now
##Vote: GlowingBear
I'be been wary of GB for a while. I think there is a tone to your posts, that make me feel you are not going o win with the town.
Tolkien and lilwade, I would be looking at you 2 as well.

Is... is that it?

Is ii what?


showing up tossing on a vote and not trying to figure anything out... its like crazy scummy.

Can you at least try a little MeatPool?
meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
August 02 2014 21:51 GMT
#1095
On August 03 2014 06:19 Seeyalater wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2014 05:52 Tehpoofter wrote:
On August 02 2014 15:31 Seeyalater wrote:
Alright after rereading everything that's happened so far since the successful day 1 lynch this is currently where I currently stand.

Bang-

Poofter- Alright I give up. If you really are mafia this game, then you can have my babies, because even I just can't see you being mafia when you've been very consice about everything and have looked at everything objectively. Plus with Jenny-chan dead, I really don't think you would kill someone who would probably defend you to the death when someone tried to push scum on you. Don't think if anyone's brought that up, but since most of the players here know you, its also a very anti-Poofter kill as well. Not only that, but all your cases are awesome and basically bring up the status quo of where we are right now. Now you might think this is only me trying to get you to stop your push on me, but on the contrary, I like the fair and equal pushing you are doing on everyone.

Tolkien- Still high in my town list for always being objective. Also one of the few people to see me for what I am, a donkey town. Some bonus points for being the hammer vote at the end of the day 1. your post
On August 01 2014 22:47 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Random collection of thoughts:

I'm fairly certain DC was bussed. Given he had literally no defense of himself, either he gave up when the jig was up, so to speak, or was deliberately dying to advance mafia interests. Or perhaps abit of both, idk. But literally posting nothing but a vote change is about as white flag and suspicious as all hell, and leads me to conclude he was bussed.

Two possibilities: Either it's to deflect from meatpudding, who was a mafia power role and thus preferential to keep alive if both are up for lynch (but that assumes we lucked out on two mafia bandwagons D1: something I feel isn't very likely, and that mafia has a power role, which isnt confirmed and is thus speculation), or to cover for someone who is now currently on the DC train. I'm scrutinizing GB, but there seems little incentive to swap so late after the silence from DC was seriously deafening, or to be the "decisive vote" (how he was painted that I have no idea).

Assuming he was bussed then, either this was a pre-meditated part of mafia strategy (and mafia could've even started the wagon) since as a D1 mafia kill, this was too "easy", or spur of the moment. It significantly impacts who's under the microscope on the vote list, I think.

Or perhaps its super WIFOM and the mafia stayed on meat, but given how there was no defense of DC, it makes little/no sense.

I'm actually looking at TehPoofter again given the possibility of bussing here. But given a votelist analysis under the assumption of bussing, without ANY prior reads I'd say the following.


People who should be a D2 wagon:
Meatpudding (unless things change drastically, step it up)

People who are suspicious as all hell:
GB
Me (even tho confirmed town)

People who should be reviewed carefully:
Banks
Jenny
lilwade

People who are most likely stupid town (like srs, DC put up no defense whatsoever):
Teemu
Seeya

If you're mafia, fuck you. Everything's locked in. :D

Is probably the most concise d2 post I've seen looking at objectively. Yes others have said basically nearly the same thing, but you put it in the best terms, and bonus points for not calling anyone "town"

Lilwade- not much has changed here since N1 where I had you high on my town list for being the first to hammer Clockwork, but have much like me, your involvement d2 has been very sporadic so I'll leave you here for now.

Bang

Teemu- Still have you leaning town. I feel like, our relationship this game started off as bitter rivals, and has now transformed as two lovers joined together by the power of the donkey. This is going to sound like sheeping, but although you are very active and propose good questions, you seem about as confused as I am to this whole thing. Basically after my push on you in day 1, and realizing how bad it was, I've basically turned lethargic and went from long posts trying to find scum in you, to sheeping a good amount of thoughts, which is what I feel you have done as well(though not as badly as me).

Kill-

These are basically the two scenarios I have left when it comes to these two.

The first is the very obvious MP- not much to be said here. If he is the last mafia, he got really unlucky and rolled mafia with another lurker and basically tried during his few active moments to first appear town by trying to make consise reads(which he never delivered). When that failed due probably to lack of information, his strategy moved to pushing on Teemu, since the only other push availible other than his partner was himself, which left him between a rock and a hard place. Again since he wasn't around much, he probably just remembered the push that was going on Teemu d1, and tried to go back in time when that was a very hot topic to push on Teemu. However sadly for him, our time travel devices had a short fuse and did not go back in time with him, so his desperate push has lead nowhere. Another thing I've noticed about him in the past couple days. These guy has basically no town circle. I've gone through his filter and there are no real posts where he either tries to match his opinions on others, or talk about who he thinks are town. He's playing like he's the last man left alive in town, when in reality there's a high chance he's the last man alright, but the last mafia man.


Then we have Glowingbear- I've usually had GB on my neutral to scum list- mainly because as others have stated, his posting style changes quite a bit from time to time. My theory on this is basically he's trying to play two different personalities this game. There's his blending into town personality, where he posts in a friendly demeanor, such as at the start of day, or at the beginning of the game. But then every now and then, it shifts into the other, scum slinging, hyper defensive personality. For example, just after day 1 we've had a few examples of this. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/462654-newbie-mini-mafia-lvii?page=39#776 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/462654-newbie-mini-mafia-lvii?page=41#816 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/462654-newbie-mini-mafia-lvii?page=42#827 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/462654-newbie-mini-mafia-lvii?page=51#1016. What do these posts have in common? Paranoia. And not paranoia about someone else being mafia, its paranoia about others seeing HIM as mafia. That could be him as town being shocked that his "super" townie play is being questioned, but these reactions have been awful. Also, while I may post a lot of fluff as some people say, if you go through GB's filter, he really doesn't bring much to the table either. His biggest "case" against someone was his very flawed case about me and Jenny. At first I thought of this as just being a donkey town case, but I don't think I can anymore. He also seemed extremely proud to have been the one to hammer Clockwork, and seemed paranoid being getting n1'd for it, but when others brought to light that it wasn't him that brought the hammer, it also makes that reaction bad. My guess if he is the last mafia? He realized very early D1 that it was going to be a very hard game since clockwork had basically done nothing to their side in almost all of day 1, and caught a chance to ride the bus on him with Poof and Jenny to appear supper town, and bussed his teammate hoping to fool everyone and coast to victory having fooled town. That also explains his super confused posts above about him being considered for lynch, since what he thought was a great plan, was not as flawless as he thought. Plus he never showed his sixpack to me.


I'm still on the MP safer train barring anything major happening in the next few hours, but if he is not mafia, at this point I'm almost convinced it has to be GB, unless he can prove he isn't.



This is a Texas caliber post. Big, useful, seems pretty good natured. I think you need to stick around and convince me why MeatPolice is more mafia than GlowingBeard

The reasoning is pretty straight forward still. Huge lurker, disinterest in the game. I mean, look at his demeanor when he checks in once maybe every 24 hours. They seem so... soulless. Its almost like he is being forced by someone to actually check in and make a couple of posts. Not to mention, more than half his posts just repeat the same point over and over. At this point he sounds like a broken cd player. Even if you don't have much time to check in on the game(like Tolkien), you should still be able to have a clear case of where town in as a whole, instead of tunneling on 1-2 people like he has. If you really think GB is a better lynch for today, then I'd like to hear your reasoning on it to possibly switch the wagon with you. GB almost seems to have given up as well....


GlowingBear is my best guess for mafia right now. One mafia tactic is to appear overly logical and I feel like this is what gb has been trying to do all game. He backs up all hist posts with some reasoning, but I find his logic to be a bit contrived. I am wary that he might be scum and trying to cover over anything that could look inconsistent.

On the other hand, he was giving pressure on 666.

On the third hand, he switched votes from me only at the last minute, and I think he needs to step out of tunnel vision for a few hours.
Be excellent to each other.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
August 02 2014 21:54 GMT
#1096
On August 03 2014 06:51 meatpudding wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2014 06:19 Seeyalater wrote:
On August 03 2014 05:52 Tehpoofter wrote:
On August 02 2014 15:31 Seeyalater wrote:
Alright after rereading everything that's happened so far since the successful day 1 lynch this is currently where I currently stand.

Bang-

Poofter- Alright I give up. If you really are mafia this game, then you can have my babies, because even I just can't see you being mafia when you've been very consice about everything and have looked at everything objectively. Plus with Jenny-chan dead, I really don't think you would kill someone who would probably defend you to the death when someone tried to push scum on you. Don't think if anyone's brought that up, but since most of the players here know you, its also a very anti-Poofter kill as well. Not only that, but all your cases are awesome and basically bring up the status quo of where we are right now. Now you might think this is only me trying to get you to stop your push on me, but on the contrary, I like the fair and equal pushing you are doing on everyone.

Tolkien- Still high in my town list for always being objective. Also one of the few people to see me for what I am, a donkey town. Some bonus points for being the hammer vote at the end of the day 1. your post
On August 01 2014 22:47 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Random collection of thoughts:

I'm fairly certain DC was bussed. Given he had literally no defense of himself, either he gave up when the jig was up, so to speak, or was deliberately dying to advance mafia interests. Or perhaps abit of both, idk. But literally posting nothing but a vote change is about as white flag and suspicious as all hell, and leads me to conclude he was bussed.

Two possibilities: Either it's to deflect from meatpudding, who was a mafia power role and thus preferential to keep alive if both are up for lynch (but that assumes we lucked out on two mafia bandwagons D1: something I feel isn't very likely, and that mafia has a power role, which isnt confirmed and is thus speculation), or to cover for someone who is now currently on the DC train. I'm scrutinizing GB, but there seems little incentive to swap so late after the silence from DC was seriously deafening, or to be the "decisive vote" (how he was painted that I have no idea).

Assuming he was bussed then, either this was a pre-meditated part of mafia strategy (and mafia could've even started the wagon) since as a D1 mafia kill, this was too "easy", or spur of the moment. It significantly impacts who's under the microscope on the vote list, I think.

Or perhaps its super WIFOM and the mafia stayed on meat, but given how there was no defense of DC, it makes little/no sense.

I'm actually looking at TehPoofter again given the possibility of bussing here. But given a votelist analysis under the assumption of bussing, without ANY prior reads I'd say the following.


People who should be a D2 wagon:
Meatpudding (unless things change drastically, step it up)

People who are suspicious as all hell:
GB
Me (even tho confirmed town)

People who should be reviewed carefully:
Banks
Jenny
lilwade

People who are most likely stupid town (like srs, DC put up no defense whatsoever):
Teemu
Seeya

If you're mafia, fuck you. Everything's locked in. :D

Is probably the most concise d2 post I've seen looking at objectively. Yes others have said basically nearly the same thing, but you put it in the best terms, and bonus points for not calling anyone "town"

Lilwade- not much has changed here since N1 where I had you high on my town list for being the first to hammer Clockwork, but have much like me, your involvement d2 has been very sporadic so I'll leave you here for now.

Bang

Teemu- Still have you leaning town. I feel like, our relationship this game started off as bitter rivals, and has now transformed as two lovers joined together by the power of the donkey. This is going to sound like sheeping, but although you are very active and propose good questions, you seem about as confused as I am to this whole thing. Basically after my push on you in day 1, and realizing how bad it was, I've basically turned lethargic and went from long posts trying to find scum in you, to sheeping a good amount of thoughts, which is what I feel you have done as well(though not as badly as me).

Kill-

These are basically the two scenarios I have left when it comes to these two.

The first is the very obvious MP- not much to be said here. If he is the last mafia, he got really unlucky and rolled mafia with another lurker and basically tried during his few active moments to first appear town by trying to make consise reads(which he never delivered). When that failed due probably to lack of information, his strategy moved to pushing on Teemu, since the only other push availible other than his partner was himself, which left him between a rock and a hard place. Again since he wasn't around much, he probably just remembered the push that was going on Teemu d1, and tried to go back in time when that was a very hot topic to push on Teemu. However sadly for him, our time travel devices had a short fuse and did not go back in time with him, so his desperate push has lead nowhere. Another thing I've noticed about him in the past couple days. These guy has basically no town circle. I've gone through his filter and there are no real posts where he either tries to match his opinions on others, or talk about who he thinks are town. He's playing like he's the last man left alive in town, when in reality there's a high chance he's the last man alright, but the last mafia man.


Then we have Glowingbear- I've usually had GB on my neutral to scum list- mainly because as others have stated, his posting style changes quite a bit from time to time. My theory on this is basically he's trying to play two different personalities this game. There's his blending into town personality, where he posts in a friendly demeanor, such as at the start of day, or at the beginning of the game. But then every now and then, it shifts into the other, scum slinging, hyper defensive personality. For example, just after day 1 we've had a few examples of this. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/462654-newbie-mini-mafia-lvii?page=39#776 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/462654-newbie-mini-mafia-lvii?page=41#816 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/462654-newbie-mini-mafia-lvii?page=42#827 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/462654-newbie-mini-mafia-lvii?page=51#1016. What do these posts have in common? Paranoia. And not paranoia about someone else being mafia, its paranoia about others seeing HIM as mafia. That could be him as town being shocked that his "super" townie play is being questioned, but these reactions have been awful. Also, while I may post a lot of fluff as some people say, if you go through GB's filter, he really doesn't bring much to the table either. His biggest "case" against someone was his very flawed case about me and Jenny. At first I thought of this as just being a donkey town case, but I don't think I can anymore. He also seemed extremely proud to have been the one to hammer Clockwork, and seemed paranoid being getting n1'd for it, but when others brought to light that it wasn't him that brought the hammer, it also makes that reaction bad. My guess if he is the last mafia? He realized very early D1 that it was going to be a very hard game since clockwork had basically done nothing to their side in almost all of day 1, and caught a chance to ride the bus on him with Poof and Jenny to appear supper town, and bussed his teammate hoping to fool everyone and coast to victory having fooled town. That also explains his super confused posts above about him being considered for lynch, since what he thought was a great plan, was not as flawless as he thought. Plus he never showed his sixpack to me.


I'm still on the MP safer train barring anything major happening in the next few hours, but if he is not mafia, at this point I'm almost convinced it has to be GB, unless he can prove he isn't.



This is a Texas caliber post. Big, useful, seems pretty good natured. I think you need to stick around and convince me why MeatPolice is more mafia than GlowingBeard

The reasoning is pretty straight forward still. Huge lurker, disinterest in the game. I mean, look at his demeanor when he checks in once maybe every 24 hours. They seem so... soulless. Its almost like he is being forced by someone to actually check in and make a couple of posts. Not to mention, more than half his posts just repeat the same point over and over. At this point he sounds like a broken cd player. Even if you don't have much time to check in on the game(like Tolkien), you should still be able to have a clear case of where town in as a whole, instead of tunneling on 1-2 people like he has. If you really think GB is a better lynch for today, then I'd like to hear your reasoning on it to possibly switch the wagon with you. GB almost seems to have given up as well....


GlowingBear is my best guess for mafia right now. One mafia tactic is to appear overly logical and I feel like this is what gb has been trying to do all game. He backs up all hist posts with some reasoning, but I find his logic to be a bit contrived. I am wary that he might be scum and trying to cover over anything that could look inconsistent.

On the other hand, he was giving pressure on 666.

On the third hand, he switched votes from me only at the last minute, and I think he needs to step out of tunnel vision for a few hours.


MeatProfessor What of GlowingBreads' posts do you find overly logical?
meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
August 02 2014 22:01 GMT
#1097
On August 03 2014 06:54 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2014 06:51 meatpudding wrote:
On August 03 2014 06:19 Seeyalater wrote:
On August 03 2014 05:52 Tehpoofter wrote:
On August 02 2014 15:31 Seeyalater wrote:
Alright after rereading everything that's happened so far since the successful day 1 lynch this is currently where I currently stand.

Bang-

Poofter- Alright I give up. If you really are mafia this game, then you can have my babies, because even I just can't see you being mafia when you've been very consice about everything and have looked at everything objectively. Plus with Jenny-chan dead, I really don't think you would kill someone who would probably defend you to the death when someone tried to push scum on you. Don't think if anyone's brought that up, but since most of the players here know you, its also a very anti-Poofter kill as well. Not only that, but all your cases are awesome and basically bring up the status quo of where we are right now. Now you might think this is only me trying to get you to stop your push on me, but on the contrary, I like the fair and equal pushing you are doing on everyone.

Tolkien- Still high in my town list for always being objective. Also one of the few people to see me for what I am, a donkey town. Some bonus points for being the hammer vote at the end of the day 1. your post
On August 01 2014 22:47 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Random collection of thoughts:

I'm fairly certain DC was bussed. Given he had literally no defense of himself, either he gave up when the jig was up, so to speak, or was deliberately dying to advance mafia interests. Or perhaps abit of both, idk. But literally posting nothing but a vote change is about as white flag and suspicious as all hell, and leads me to conclude he was bussed.

Two possibilities: Either it's to deflect from meatpudding, who was a mafia power role and thus preferential to keep alive if both are up for lynch (but that assumes we lucked out on two mafia bandwagons D1: something I feel isn't very likely, and that mafia has a power role, which isnt confirmed and is thus speculation), or to cover for someone who is now currently on the DC train. I'm scrutinizing GB, but there seems little incentive to swap so late after the silence from DC was seriously deafening, or to be the "decisive vote" (how he was painted that I have no idea).

Assuming he was bussed then, either this was a pre-meditated part of mafia strategy (and mafia could've even started the wagon) since as a D1 mafia kill, this was too "easy", or spur of the moment. It significantly impacts who's under the microscope on the vote list, I think.

Or perhaps its super WIFOM and the mafia stayed on meat, but given how there was no defense of DC, it makes little/no sense.

I'm actually looking at TehPoofter again given the possibility of bussing here. But given a votelist analysis under the assumption of bussing, without ANY prior reads I'd say the following.


People who should be a D2 wagon:
Meatpudding (unless things change drastically, step it up)

People who are suspicious as all hell:
GB
Me (even tho confirmed town)

People who should be reviewed carefully:
Banks
Jenny
lilwade

People who are most likely stupid town (like srs, DC put up no defense whatsoever):
Teemu
Seeya

If you're mafia, fuck you. Everything's locked in. :D

Is probably the most concise d2 post I've seen looking at objectively. Yes others have said basically nearly the same thing, but you put it in the best terms, and bonus points for not calling anyone "town"

Lilwade- not much has changed here since N1 where I had you high on my town list for being the first to hammer Clockwork, but have much like me, your involvement d2 has been very sporadic so I'll leave you here for now.

Bang

Teemu- Still have you leaning town. I feel like, our relationship this game started off as bitter rivals, and has now transformed as two lovers joined together by the power of the donkey. This is going to sound like sheeping, but although you are very active and propose good questions, you seem about as confused as I am to this whole thing. Basically after my push on you in day 1, and realizing how bad it was, I've basically turned lethargic and went from long posts trying to find scum in you, to sheeping a good amount of thoughts, which is what I feel you have done as well(though not as badly as me).

Kill-

These are basically the two scenarios I have left when it comes to these two.

The first is the very obvious MP- not much to be said here. If he is the last mafia, he got really unlucky and rolled mafia with another lurker and basically tried during his few active moments to first appear town by trying to make consise reads(which he never delivered). When that failed due probably to lack of information, his strategy moved to pushing on Teemu, since the only other push availible other than his partner was himself, which left him between a rock and a hard place. Again since he wasn't around much, he probably just remembered the push that was going on Teemu d1, and tried to go back in time when that was a very hot topic to push on Teemu. However sadly for him, our time travel devices had a short fuse and did not go back in time with him, so his desperate push has lead nowhere. Another thing I've noticed about him in the past couple days. These guy has basically no town circle. I've gone through his filter and there are no real posts where he either tries to match his opinions on others, or talk about who he thinks are town. He's playing like he's the last man left alive in town, when in reality there's a high chance he's the last man alright, but the last mafia man.


Then we have Glowingbear- I've usually had GB on my neutral to scum list- mainly because as others have stated, his posting style changes quite a bit from time to time. My theory on this is basically he's trying to play two different personalities this game. There's his blending into town personality, where he posts in a friendly demeanor, such as at the start of day, or at the beginning of the game. But then every now and then, it shifts into the other, scum slinging, hyper defensive personality. For example, just after day 1 we've had a few examples of this. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/462654-newbie-mini-mafia-lvii?page=39#776 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/462654-newbie-mini-mafia-lvii?page=41#816 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/462654-newbie-mini-mafia-lvii?page=42#827 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/462654-newbie-mini-mafia-lvii?page=51#1016. What do these posts have in common? Paranoia. And not paranoia about someone else being mafia, its paranoia about others seeing HIM as mafia. That could be him as town being shocked that his "super" townie play is being questioned, but these reactions have been awful. Also, while I may post a lot of fluff as some people say, if you go through GB's filter, he really doesn't bring much to the table either. His biggest "case" against someone was his very flawed case about me and Jenny. At first I thought of this as just being a donkey town case, but I don't think I can anymore. He also seemed extremely proud to have been the one to hammer Clockwork, and seemed paranoid being getting n1'd for it, but when others brought to light that it wasn't him that brought the hammer, it also makes that reaction bad. My guess if he is the last mafia? He realized very early D1 that it was going to be a very hard game since clockwork had basically done nothing to their side in almost all of day 1, and caught a chance to ride the bus on him with Poof and Jenny to appear supper town, and bussed his teammate hoping to fool everyone and coast to victory having fooled town. That also explains his super confused posts above about him being considered for lynch, since what he thought was a great plan, was not as flawless as he thought. Plus he never showed his sixpack to me.


I'm still on the MP safer train barring anything major happening in the next few hours, but if he is not mafia, at this point I'm almost convinced it has to be GB, unless he can prove he isn't.



This is a Texas caliber post. Big, useful, seems pretty good natured. I think you need to stick around and convince me why MeatPolice is more mafia than GlowingBeard

The reasoning is pretty straight forward still. Huge lurker, disinterest in the game. I mean, look at his demeanor when he checks in once maybe every 24 hours. They seem so... soulless. Its almost like he is being forced by someone to actually check in and make a couple of posts. Not to mention, more than half his posts just repeat the same point over and over. At this point he sounds like a broken cd player. Even if you don't have much time to check in on the game(like Tolkien), you should still be able to have a clear case of where town in as a whole, instead of tunneling on 1-2 people like he has. If you really think GB is a better lynch for today, then I'd like to hear your reasoning on it to possibly switch the wagon with you. GB almost seems to have given up as well....


GlowingBear is my best guess for mafia right now. One mafia tactic is to appear overly logical and I feel like this is what gb has been trying to do all game. He backs up all hist posts with some reasoning, but I find his logic to be a bit contrived. I am wary that he might be scum and trying to cover over anything that could look inconsistent.

On the other hand, he was giving pressure on 666.

On the third hand, he switched votes from me only at the last minute, and I think he needs to step out of tunnel vision for a few hours.


MeatProfessor What of GlowingBreads' posts do you find overly logical?


His Jenny-lilwade post D1 was the first clue that made me suspicious. It as interesting but I think as town I would have not been so certain. He;s also made some post detailing his plan d2, but so far has only been tunnelling.
Be excellent to each other.
Seeyalater
Profile Joined July 2014
United States217 Posts
August 02 2014 22:05 GMT
#1098
On August 03 2014 06:51 meatpudding wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2014 06:19 Seeyalater wrote:
On August 03 2014 05:52 Tehpoofter wrote:
On August 02 2014 15:31 Seeyalater wrote:
Alright after rereading everything that's happened so far since the successful day 1 lynch this is currently where I currently stand.

Bang-

Poofter- Alright I give up. If you really are mafia this game, then you can have my babies, because even I just can't see you being mafia when you've been very consice about everything and have looked at everything objectively. Plus with Jenny-chan dead, I really don't think you would kill someone who would probably defend you to the death when someone tried to push scum on you. Don't think if anyone's brought that up, but since most of the players here know you, its also a very anti-Poofter kill as well. Not only that, but all your cases are awesome and basically bring up the status quo of where we are right now. Now you might think this is only me trying to get you to stop your push on me, but on the contrary, I like the fair and equal pushing you are doing on everyone.

Tolkien- Still high in my town list for always being objective. Also one of the few people to see me for what I am, a donkey town. Some bonus points for being the hammer vote at the end of the day 1. your post
On August 01 2014 22:47 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Random collection of thoughts:

I'm fairly certain DC was bussed. Given he had literally no defense of himself, either he gave up when the jig was up, so to speak, or was deliberately dying to advance mafia interests. Or perhaps abit of both, idk. But literally posting nothing but a vote change is about as white flag and suspicious as all hell, and leads me to conclude he was bussed.

Two possibilities: Either it's to deflect from meatpudding, who was a mafia power role and thus preferential to keep alive if both are up for lynch (but that assumes we lucked out on two mafia bandwagons D1: something I feel isn't very likely, and that mafia has a power role, which isnt confirmed and is thus speculation), or to cover for someone who is now currently on the DC train. I'm scrutinizing GB, but there seems little incentive to swap so late after the silence from DC was seriously deafening, or to be the "decisive vote" (how he was painted that I have no idea).

Assuming he was bussed then, either this was a pre-meditated part of mafia strategy (and mafia could've even started the wagon) since as a D1 mafia kill, this was too "easy", or spur of the moment. It significantly impacts who's under the microscope on the vote list, I think.

Or perhaps its super WIFOM and the mafia stayed on meat, but given how there was no defense of DC, it makes little/no sense.

I'm actually looking at TehPoofter again given the possibility of bussing here. But given a votelist analysis under the assumption of bussing, without ANY prior reads I'd say the following.


People who should be a D2 wagon:
Meatpudding (unless things change drastically, step it up)

People who are suspicious as all hell:
GB
Me (even tho confirmed town)

People who should be reviewed carefully:
Banks
Jenny
lilwade

People who are most likely stupid town (like srs, DC put up no defense whatsoever):
Teemu
Seeya

If you're mafia, fuck you. Everything's locked in. :D

Is probably the most concise d2 post I've seen looking at objectively. Yes others have said basically nearly the same thing, but you put it in the best terms, and bonus points for not calling anyone "town"

Lilwade- not much has changed here since N1 where I had you high on my town list for being the first to hammer Clockwork, but have much like me, your involvement d2 has been very sporadic so I'll leave you here for now.

Bang

Teemu- Still have you leaning town. I feel like, our relationship this game started off as bitter rivals, and has now transformed as two lovers joined together by the power of the donkey. This is going to sound like sheeping, but although you are very active and propose good questions, you seem about as confused as I am to this whole thing. Basically after my push on you in day 1, and realizing how bad it was, I've basically turned lethargic and went from long posts trying to find scum in you, to sheeping a good amount of thoughts, which is what I feel you have done as well(though not as badly as me).

Kill-

These are basically the two scenarios I have left when it comes to these two.

The first is the very obvious MP- not much to be said here. If he is the last mafia, he got really unlucky and rolled mafia with another lurker and basically tried during his few active moments to first appear town by trying to make consise reads(which he never delivered). When that failed due probably to lack of information, his strategy moved to pushing on Teemu, since the only other push availible other than his partner was himself, which left him between a rock and a hard place. Again since he wasn't around much, he probably just remembered the push that was going on Teemu d1, and tried to go back in time when that was a very hot topic to push on Teemu. However sadly for him, our time travel devices had a short fuse and did not go back in time with him, so his desperate push has lead nowhere. Another thing I've noticed about him in the past couple days. These guy has basically no town circle. I've gone through his filter and there are no real posts where he either tries to match his opinions on others, or talk about who he thinks are town. He's playing like he's the last man left alive in town, when in reality there's a high chance he's the last man alright, but the last mafia man.


Then we have Glowingbear- I've usually had GB on my neutral to scum list- mainly because as others have stated, his posting style changes quite a bit from time to time. My theory on this is basically he's trying to play two different personalities this game. There's his blending into town personality, where he posts in a friendly demeanor, such as at the start of day, or at the beginning of the game. But then every now and then, it shifts into the other, scum slinging, hyper defensive personality. For example, just after day 1 we've had a few examples of this. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/462654-newbie-mini-mafia-lvii?page=39#776 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/462654-newbie-mini-mafia-lvii?page=41#816 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/462654-newbie-mini-mafia-lvii?page=42#827 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/462654-newbie-mini-mafia-lvii?page=51#1016. What do these posts have in common? Paranoia. And not paranoia about someone else being mafia, its paranoia about others seeing HIM as mafia. That could be him as town being shocked that his "super" townie play is being questioned, but these reactions have been awful. Also, while I may post a lot of fluff as some people say, if you go through GB's filter, he really doesn't bring much to the table either. His biggest "case" against someone was his very flawed case about me and Jenny. At first I thought of this as just being a donkey town case, but I don't think I can anymore. He also seemed extremely proud to have been the one to hammer Clockwork, and seemed paranoid being getting n1'd for it, but when others brought to light that it wasn't him that brought the hammer, it also makes that reaction bad. My guess if he is the last mafia? He realized very early D1 that it was going to be a very hard game since clockwork had basically done nothing to their side in almost all of day 1, and caught a chance to ride the bus on him with Poof and Jenny to appear supper town, and bussed his teammate hoping to fool everyone and coast to victory having fooled town. That also explains his super confused posts above about him being considered for lynch, since what he thought was a great plan, was not as flawless as he thought. Plus he never showed his sixpack to me.


I'm still on the MP safer train barring anything major happening in the next few hours, but if he is not mafia, at this point I'm almost convinced it has to be GB, unless he can prove he isn't.



This is a Texas caliber post. Big, useful, seems pretty good natured. I think you need to stick around and convince me why MeatPolice is more mafia than GlowingBeard

The reasoning is pretty straight forward still. Huge lurker, disinterest in the game. I mean, look at his demeanor when he checks in once maybe every 24 hours. They seem so... soulless. Its almost like he is being forced by someone to actually check in and make a couple of posts. Not to mention, more than half his posts just repeat the same point over and over. At this point he sounds like a broken cd player. Even if you don't have much time to check in on the game(like Tolkien), you should still be able to have a clear case of where town in as a whole, instead of tunneling on 1-2 people like he has. If you really think GB is a better lynch for today, then I'd like to hear your reasoning on it to possibly switch the wagon with you. GB almost seems to have given up as well....


GlowingBear is my best guess for mafia right now. One mafia tactic is to appear overly logical and I feel like this is what gb has been trying to do all game. He backs up all hist posts with some reasoning, but I find his logic to be a bit contrived. I am wary that he might be scum and trying to cover over anything that could look inconsistent.

On the other hand, he was giving pressure on 666.

On the third hand, he switched votes from me only at the last minute, and I think he needs to step out of tunnel vision for a few hours.

What about the rest of the people alive? If we do lynch and GB and he's not mafia, where do we go from there?
meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
August 02 2014 22:09 GMT
#1099
On August 03 2014 07:05 Seeyalater wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2014 06:51 meatpudding wrote:
On August 03 2014 06:19 Seeyalater wrote:
On August 03 2014 05:52 Tehpoofter wrote:
On August 02 2014 15:31 Seeyalater wrote:
Alright after rereading everything that's happened so far since the successful day 1 lynch this is currently where I currently stand.

Bang-

Poofter- Alright I give up. If you really are mafia this game, then you can have my babies, because even I just can't see you being mafia when you've been very consice about everything and have looked at everything objectively. Plus with Jenny-chan dead, I really don't think you would kill someone who would probably defend you to the death when someone tried to push scum on you. Don't think if anyone's brought that up, but since most of the players here know you, its also a very anti-Poofter kill as well. Not only that, but all your cases are awesome and basically bring up the status quo of where we are right now. Now you might think this is only me trying to get you to stop your push on me, but on the contrary, I like the fair and equal pushing you are doing on everyone.

Tolkien- Still high in my town list for always being objective. Also one of the few people to see me for what I am, a donkey town. Some bonus points for being the hammer vote at the end of the day 1. your post
On August 01 2014 22:47 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Random collection of thoughts:

I'm fairly certain DC was bussed. Given he had literally no defense of himself, either he gave up when the jig was up, so to speak, or was deliberately dying to advance mafia interests. Or perhaps abit of both, idk. But literally posting nothing but a vote change is about as white flag and suspicious as all hell, and leads me to conclude he was bussed.

Two possibilities: Either it's to deflect from meatpudding, who was a mafia power role and thus preferential to keep alive if both are up for lynch (but that assumes we lucked out on two mafia bandwagons D1: something I feel isn't very likely, and that mafia has a power role, which isnt confirmed and is thus speculation), or to cover for someone who is now currently on the DC train. I'm scrutinizing GB, but there seems little incentive to swap so late after the silence from DC was seriously deafening, or to be the "decisive vote" (how he was painted that I have no idea).

Assuming he was bussed then, either this was a pre-meditated part of mafia strategy (and mafia could've even started the wagon) since as a D1 mafia kill, this was too "easy", or spur of the moment. It significantly impacts who's under the microscope on the vote list, I think.

Or perhaps its super WIFOM and the mafia stayed on meat, but given how there was no defense of DC, it makes little/no sense.

I'm actually looking at TehPoofter again given the possibility of bussing here. But given a votelist analysis under the assumption of bussing, without ANY prior reads I'd say the following.


People who should be a D2 wagon:
Meatpudding (unless things change drastically, step it up)

People who are suspicious as all hell:
GB
Me (even tho confirmed town)

People who should be reviewed carefully:
Banks
Jenny
lilwade

People who are most likely stupid town (like srs, DC put up no defense whatsoever):
Teemu
Seeya

If you're mafia, fuck you. Everything's locked in. :D

Is probably the most concise d2 post I've seen looking at objectively. Yes others have said basically nearly the same thing, but you put it in the best terms, and bonus points for not calling anyone "town"

Lilwade- not much has changed here since N1 where I had you high on my town list for being the first to hammer Clockwork, but have much like me, your involvement d2 has been very sporadic so I'll leave you here for now.

Bang

Teemu- Still have you leaning town. I feel like, our relationship this game started off as bitter rivals, and has now transformed as two lovers joined together by the power of the donkey. This is going to sound like sheeping, but although you are very active and propose good questions, you seem about as confused as I am to this whole thing. Basically after my push on you in day 1, and realizing how bad it was, I've basically turned lethargic and went from long posts trying to find scum in you, to sheeping a good amount of thoughts, which is what I feel you have done as well(though not as badly as me).

Kill-

These are basically the two scenarios I have left when it comes to these two.

The first is the very obvious MP- not much to be said here. If he is the last mafia, he got really unlucky and rolled mafia with another lurker and basically tried during his few active moments to first appear town by trying to make consise reads(which he never delivered). When that failed due probably to lack of information, his strategy moved to pushing on Teemu, since the only other push availible other than his partner was himself, which left him between a rock and a hard place. Again since he wasn't around much, he probably just remembered the push that was going on Teemu d1, and tried to go back in time when that was a very hot topic to push on Teemu. However sadly for him, our time travel devices had a short fuse and did not go back in time with him, so his desperate push has lead nowhere. Another thing I've noticed about him in the past couple days. These guy has basically no town circle. I've gone through his filter and there are no real posts where he either tries to match his opinions on others, or talk about who he thinks are town. He's playing like he's the last man left alive in town, when in reality there's a high chance he's the last man alright, but the last mafia man.


Then we have Glowingbear- I've usually had GB on my neutral to scum list- mainly because as others have stated, his posting style changes quite a bit from time to time. My theory on this is basically he's trying to play two different personalities this game. There's his blending into town personality, where he posts in a friendly demeanor, such as at the start of day, or at the beginning of the game. But then every now and then, it shifts into the other, scum slinging, hyper defensive personality. For example, just after day 1 we've had a few examples of this. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/462654-newbie-mini-mafia-lvii?page=39#776 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/462654-newbie-mini-mafia-lvii?page=41#816 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/462654-newbie-mini-mafia-lvii?page=42#827 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/462654-newbie-mini-mafia-lvii?page=51#1016. What do these posts have in common? Paranoia. And not paranoia about someone else being mafia, its paranoia about others seeing HIM as mafia. That could be him as town being shocked that his "super" townie play is being questioned, but these reactions have been awful. Also, while I may post a lot of fluff as some people say, if you go through GB's filter, he really doesn't bring much to the table either. His biggest "case" against someone was his very flawed case about me and Jenny. At first I thought of this as just being a donkey town case, but I don't think I can anymore. He also seemed extremely proud to have been the one to hammer Clockwork, and seemed paranoid being getting n1'd for it, but when others brought to light that it wasn't him that brought the hammer, it also makes that reaction bad. My guess if he is the last mafia? He realized very early D1 that it was going to be a very hard game since clockwork had basically done nothing to their side in almost all of day 1, and caught a chance to ride the bus on him with Poof and Jenny to appear supper town, and bussed his teammate hoping to fool everyone and coast to victory having fooled town. That also explains his super confused posts above about him being considered for lynch, since what he thought was a great plan, was not as flawless as he thought. Plus he never showed his sixpack to me.


I'm still on the MP safer train barring anything major happening in the next few hours, but if he is not mafia, at this point I'm almost convinced it has to be GB, unless he can prove he isn't.



This is a Texas caliber post. Big, useful, seems pretty good natured. I think you need to stick around and convince me why MeatPolice is more mafia than GlowingBeard

The reasoning is pretty straight forward still. Huge lurker, disinterest in the game. I mean, look at his demeanor when he checks in once maybe every 24 hours. They seem so... soulless. Its almost like he is being forced by someone to actually check in and make a couple of posts. Not to mention, more than half his posts just repeat the same point over and over. At this point he sounds like a broken cd player. Even if you don't have much time to check in on the game(like Tolkien), you should still be able to have a clear case of where town in as a whole, instead of tunneling on 1-2 people like he has. If you really think GB is a better lynch for today, then I'd like to hear your reasoning on it to possibly switch the wagon with you. GB almost seems to have given up as well....


GlowingBear is my best guess for mafia right now. One mafia tactic is to appear overly logical and I feel like this is what gb has been trying to do all game. He backs up all hist posts with some reasoning, but I find his logic to be a bit contrived. I am wary that he might be scum and trying to cover over anything that could look inconsistent.

On the other hand, he was giving pressure on 666.

On the third hand, he switched votes from me only at the last minute, and I think he needs to step out of tunnel vision for a few hours.

What about the rest of the people alive? If we do lynch and GB and he's not mafia, where do we go from there?


I'm still having a hard time giving a read on lilwade. I would say, there is likely mafia between you and GB. If nothing changes I would hammer you second. Teemu, Banks, LT, they all seem like town to me.
Be excellent to each other.
meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
August 02 2014 22:10 GMT
#1100
Do you think, if there is only a second mafia, that much can be said about a vote analysis? I think one vote isn't really a bus.
Be excellent to each other.
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