Teemursu, I don't understand how your voting matches up with what you say at all. You make it clear in several posts that you suspect seeyalater, but don't actually vote untill I point that out.
Currently, meatpudding is set to be lynched with 1 vote.
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People who aren't yet voting anyone: Jenny, lilwade, meatpudding, Seeyalater.
Could you please do vote someone?
On July 31 2014 04:09 Teemursu wrote: Seeyalater, you said you'd re evaluate everyone, but I don't see you've reevaluated me at all, when I'm the person you should probably be reevaluating the most. I'm obviously town and not going to get lynched today, if not for the longetlst filter alone, so you eed to do some effective scumhunting and place your vote somewhere where it's not useless.
but you do not actually use yours to try to kill mafia?
On July 30 2014 15:54 Teemursu wrote: Also, Seeyalater, I didn't imply anywhere that they were good reads. What I meant to say (kinda typo'd earlier) that town doesn't have good reads early, which means that posting an early list like that is easy as mafia to appear as townie.
It is easy because the reads are either a) sheeped and the list is mostly a recap of what's been said earlier or b) fabricated. A is the case and which is why I think you're scummy.
##Unvote
Not scummy enough to warrant a vote at this point, actually, and I think I might not be on the right track. I think you might actually think that I'm mafia now, maybe.
##Vote Tehpoofter
Until he praises how town I am or discusses reads with me.
I see hours after that you post your suspicions on tehpoofter, but why did you throw down your vote without backing it up? It would have been easy for you to retract that vote if people pushed you on it, saying that it wasn't a real vote, but no one was around to question why you placed your vote without reason. You waffle a bit on seeyalater, switching between thinking he is mafia and thinking he is town but suspects you, and back again. However you don't actually try to get him lynched, you play both sides to the coin posting your opinions but not really following through.
Add in the fact that several times when people pushed on you you deflected it without really answering
On July 30 2014 10:00 Tehpoofter wrote: TEEMU IS MAFIA I'm like 75% sure.
Who is around to talk about how right I am?
Why do you think so? 75% is quite strong of an opinion.
Heading off soon, so won't be posting much right now.
You feel apathetic towards the game. I feel like you would be in here posting like instantly upon waking up if you were town just from how I feel you play. Its 75% cause I want to see if you were busy or hear your reads. I also was wanting to talk to people cause no one was talking.
Give reads.
I literally just woke up.
Actually, I lied, I tried to get Naxx working first.
So far, I haven't read most of the thread with thought. I haven't really given any reads (which is the reason most people are going against me? Idk) because it was still very early in the game, and people started being more active when I was focusing on trying to getting into bed/focusing on getting legend in Hearthstone.
Anyways, I like the spot I'm in, I generally get very good reads when people are pushing on me. My initial gutfeelz are that Seeyalater is mafia. Reading his filter kind of confirms this to me, so you should probably do it yourself too, but it feels to me like he is trying to kind of blend in town by "agreeing a lot with everyone else says" (first page) and then posted a liszt of reads in which I didn't feel the reasoning for the reads was too strong.
Jenny is pretty towny, lotsa content and probably is going to have the second longest filter (after me).
I kinda wish lilwade would've followed up with his "reaction tests". Not posting too many reads while creating the opportunity for himself makes me lean scum on him.
666's case was okay, but it kinda gave a feeling that he was trying too hard to justify his vote? Idk. I would kind of like to see the questions he wanted me to follow up with since I'm too lazy myself.
too lazy to read my argument?
On July 31 2014 04:09 Teemursu wrote: Seeyalater, you said you'd re evaluate everyone, but I don't see you've reevaluated me at all, when I'm the person you should probably be reevaluating the most. I'm obviously town and not going to get lynched today, if not for the longetlst filter alone, so you eed to do some effective scumhunting and place your vote somewhere where it's not useless.
You don't really make me trust you with any of this.
1) holy fuck MP. Can we lynch him for that post? Goddamnit, I said it last game and I'll say it this game, if you're town (either green or blue), there's no reason to make shitty posts like that or to lurk.
i cannae understand that reads list. GIVEN how he played last game. Goddamnit mang, stahp and be srs.
2) Now that Teemu is posted, I'm pretty happy with his posts. He's largely cleared himself as the most solid town I have ATM.
3) I will also second his suggestion about associative reads: they're useless D1, and do nothing but mislead you until D1 lynch and N1 NK (if any). Mafia could do all sorts of shenanigans D1, so trying to form a connection D1 is pretty meaningless. The second TL mafia game I had involved the mafia pair getting into a pointless argument about lynching lurkers, and using the "they can't POSSIBLY be mafia together" relationship from that to cruise through the game into LYLO (I could've won the game for town if I saw through it because they were my second pair of mafia possibilities by then, but nope).
Bit rambling, but yes. DONT TRY IT D1, it can be so badly wifomed QQQQ
4) Nothing remarkable about most other people in my skim, except GB's case is stupid and he should feel bad about it. See above.
5) My opinion of lilwade hasn't changed yet.
6) Let's start consolidating on some bandwagons people; need to keep mafia from influencing the vote. Can we get a VOTECOUNT so we know what's formed already.
Have to make dinner, but I THINK the bandwagons are currently: lilwade, TehPoofter (?), DCMARVEL (?), Meatpudding, and Teemu (?). Need to consolidate because this is bad: I'll move off lilwade for meatpudding or LXIX guy atm if I have to (though LXIX is at least genuinely trying as opposed to MP, from what I can tell, so I'd prefer a MP lynch in that case).
Let's cut the bandwagons down alot more: I'll be back after making dinner/hitting the gym.
Yes, I also commented on my post a couple pages back I think, where I stated that I did not like that response at all. Holier than thou attitude can not get your far in places, specially not here.
On July 31 2014 06:23 Seeyalater wrote: I'm guessing being blue means being what is reffered to as a power role(cop, vigi, etc)?
Yes.
Rule 1: you do NOT talk about who you think are blues.
Rule 2: blues are just town with special powers, don't treat them as anything other than VT if you got that role, because the only thing shit like lurking does is give you away to mafia, and make you seem scummier to town.
Rule 3: you do NOT talk about who you think are blues.
On July 31 2014 06:23 Seeyalater wrote: I'm guessing being blue means being what is reffered to as a power role(cop, vigi, etc)?
Yes.
Rule 1: you do NOT talk about who you think are blues.
Rule 2: blues are just town with special powers, don't treat them as anything other than VT if you got that role, because the only thing shit like lurking does is give you away to mafia, and make you seem scummier to town.
Rule 3: you do NOT talk about who you think are blues.
On July 31 2014 06:23 Seeyalater wrote: I'm guessing being blue means being what is reffered to as a power role(cop, vigi, etc)?
Yes.
Rule 1: you do NOT talk about who you think are blues.
Rule 2: blues are just town with special powers, don't treat them as anything other than VT if you got that role, because the only thing shit like lurking does is give you away to mafia, and make you seem scummier to town.
Rule 3: you do NOT talk about who you think are blues.
On July 31 2014 06:23 Seeyalater wrote: I'm guessing being blue means being what is reffered to as a power role(cop, vigi, etc)?
Yes.
Rule 1: you do NOT talk about who you think are blues.
Rule 2: blues are just town with special powers, don't treat them as anything other than VT if you got that role, because the only thing shit like lurking does is give you away to mafia, and make you seem scummier to town.
Rule 3: you do NOT talk about who you think are blues.
leaning town
wat, why?
That's something anyone can point out. Easy brownie points if you're mafia, just like GB going out and sayin "let's stop joking around here".
I'm just doing it so we don't get a repeat of GB's random blue comment last game (although he was completely wrong about that, huehue)
On July 31 2014 06:23 Seeyalater wrote: I'm guessing being blue means being what is reffered to as a power role(cop, vigi, etc)?
Yes.
Rule 1: you do NOT talk about who you think are blues.
Rule 2: blues are just town with special powers, don't treat them as anything other than VT if you got that role, because the only thing shit like lurking does is give you away to mafia, and make you seem scummier to town.
Rule 3: you do NOT talk about who you think are blues.
On July 31 2014 06:23 Seeyalater wrote: I'm guessing being blue means being what is reffered to as a power role(cop, vigi, etc)?
Yes.
Rule 1: you do NOT talk about who you think are blues.
Rule 2: blues are just town with special powers, don't treat them as anything other than VT if you got that role, because the only thing shit like lurking does is give you away to mafia, and make you seem scummier to town.
Rule 3: you do NOT talk about who you think are blues.
Tolkien, on the case I brought I specifically said they were distancing from each other and then I said that how unnatural was Jenny trying to "defend" someone who looked scummy. I WASN'T saying that they were scummy together based on a single interaction. I said both were scummy AND that it would make sense if they were partners. They have specific reasons. 1) I called Seeyalater scum because of a post he says someone is scum but not mafia. Sounded like he wasn't too much involved and felt very mafia motivated. 2) I called Jenny scum because it felt completely unnatural they say she jumped trying to justify Seeyalater's attitude instead of scum hunting.
These are separate reasons that could be solely used by their on. Interactions that I've brought we're only to support this vision.
Btw, don't bother posting, you two guys, we've already got your reasonings. I'm just explaining my case since its primary argument is not based on associations.
On July 31 2014 06:23 Seeyalater wrote: I'm guessing being blue means being what is reffered to as a power role(cop, vigi, etc)?
Yes.
Rule 1: you do NOT talk about who you think are blues.
Rule 2: blues are just town with special powers, don't treat them as anything other than VT if you got that role, because the only thing shit like lurking does is give you away to mafia, and make you seem scummier to town.
Rule 3: you do NOT talk about who you think are blues.
EPT
as its right in the middle of when I sleep. 
