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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 24 2014 15:14 GMT
#1441
Hmm.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 24 2014 15:15 GMT
#1442
On July 24 2014 16:38 slOosh wrote:
Day 1 Votecount

Xatalos (5) - Chairman Ray, HaruRH, raynpelikoneet, Navillus, Koshi
Navillus (2) - kushm4sta, VayneAuthority
Damdred (1) - Vivax
ObiWanShinobi (3) - Teermursu, Chopin Liszt, Xatalos
VayneAuthority (1) - Palmar
Vivax (2) - ObiWanShinobi, batsnacks
Koshi (1) - GlowingBear



Bach to the basics.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 24 2014 15:15 GMT
#1443
I'm fine with lynching Navillus I guess. He's null at best, slightly scummy at worst.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 24 2014 15:15 GMT
#1444
On July 25 2014 00:13 kushm4sta wrote:
I thinkk obi is more subdued this game because he's not following it that close. he is either busy, has less interest, or the length of the thread is making it harder for him, or a combination

But you have zero reason to think this, when the obvious answer why he isn't playing up to his normal town exuberance is that he's mafia. Like in those games where he's mafia.
Bach to the basics.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
July 24 2014 15:15 GMT
#1445
koshi where you at bro?
u got a townread on navillus?
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
July 24 2014 15:16 GMT
#1446
Kush, if you think that about his Xata case, tell me if it's different from this then and who of the two is town or scum:

On July 23 2014 10:53 Damdred wrote:
Heres my thoughts about Xatalos right now, hes just seems a bit odd to me right now.

Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 03:03 Xatalos wrote:
##Vote raynpelikoneet

Sigh


Enters thread with an odd opening no sign of real communication.
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 05:55 Xatalos wrote:
On July 23 2014 05:34 Vivax wrote:
On July 23 2014 03:03 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok, I'll join the random lynch thing.
I just saw Christ the Redeemer far away, and it looks like a T.
Therefore:
##Vote: Teemursu

Die.


On July 23 2014 03:03 Xatalos wrote:
##Vote raynpelikoneet

Sigh


Gut wise I don't like these entrances.


I can see what you're getting at with that comment. Both of these posts are kind of apathetic. In any case, it's not much to work with. I'm town anyways and GB could be just playing around a bit.


Follows it up by defending himself and glowing, she might be town but he definitely is cool.

Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 06:16 Xatalos wrote:
On July 23 2014 06:10 Chopin Liszt wrote:
On July 23 2014 06:09 Xatalos wrote:
On July 23 2014 06:06 Chairman Ray wrote:
The exchange between Xatalos and Koshi is the most awkward and forced conversation I have ever seen, especially this:

On July 23 2014 05:41 Xatalos wrote:
On July 23 2014 03:04 Koshi wrote:
Xatalos it has been a while. I am town this game. You must be so happy.


Hmm. I think I want you to live longer than D1 just for the "Mafia totes alive guis" mass PM. That, and my history of reading you is horrible. I have the vague idea that someone explained your meta to me in a recent game so I'll search for that.


If we had two lynches, I'd lynch them both.

##Vote: Xatalos


I don't think it's a good idea to lynch either of us for D1. Generally speaking.

What does this mean?


Koshi can look scummy during D1 as town so it's not usually a good time to lynch him. I'm generally active regardless of my alignment, and I become a (somewhat) valuable asset throughout the game as town and I tend to reveal myself more easily later on as scum (+leaving material to work with). Neither of us are ideal D1 lynches.


But if someone looks and feels scummy and plays great scum in your mind why would you want to keep them around? Isn't it better if you honest think they are scum to take them out fast and not risk them swaying people against you? Bit weird talking about yourself their as well, I know you think yourself an asset but why even include the thing about the scum their?

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On July 23 2014 06:41 Xatalos wrote:
On July 23 2014 06:38 Chairman Ray wrote:
On July 23 2014 06:26 Koshi wrote:
I think you are out of your mind if you think we had the most awkward conversation ever. I said "how happy are you I am town". How am I here being awkward?

Xatalos his answer might have been odd. But how can you say that even I am scummy? What kind of insane connection is that CR? Why isn't Xatalos scummy that can't reply to my awesome trick question???

Hmmmm?


Your side of the conversation was fine, but that's to be expected of you whether you are scum or not. Xatalos was not fine. He pocketed you for the weirdest reason at the weirdest time. I'm leaning towards scum pocketing scum rather than scum pocketing town.


As a sidenote, I'm extremely careful not to connect myself with my teammates as scum. You can see me bussing / semi-bussing / distancing my teammates in pretty much every game. I would never fake a friendly conversation with my teammate as scum, at least right away.


This feels weird to trying to paint yourself as town by saying that you play scum one way and town another....whos to say that you don't change it up from time to time to make yourself look town?

Overall I get a really odd vibe from Xatalos posts, and as others have posted he has singled out a couple of low fruit even though it hurts my pride. I'd like him to answer some before I change votes.

Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 10:28 VayneAuthority wrote:
^scum


Also why Haru has seemed to be scum hunting in his posts so far.

Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 24 2014 15:17 GMT
#1447
On July 25 2014 00:01 Teemursu wrote:
i kind of want to lynxh obi, see him flip scum and c myself as town, but vivs eod was so freaking scummy that i feel like he is more likely mafia, lol,.

koshi could chopin be mafia with.viv and thus not voting on him? i know its retarded to make aligbmet connection theoroes right now but i keep going from town to really unsure slash paranoid about him

I already said they were scum together once and I can do it again.

Also kush not wanting to vote chopin or vivax while scumreading them earlier makes him tje third.
I had a good night of sleep.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 24 2014 15:17 GMT
#1448
40min left.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
July 24 2014 15:17 GMT
#1449
##Unvote

##Vote Vivax


almost home
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
July 24 2014 15:18 GMT
#1450
vivax, i think there's a lot more townie reasoning in that post.

chopin, i townread him for a very specific reason, his townread on damdred. you can't scumread someone just on "exuberance". that is a very unsafe use of meta.
a safe use of meta is seeing that he got angry in his town games when people called him scum, therefore him doing that isn't especially scummy.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 24 2014 15:18 GMT
#1451
Vivax is a stupid lynch.

Not as stupid as Xatalos, but stupid.
Bach to the basics.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
July 24 2014 15:18 GMT
#1452
Ya'll really hourly vote nav... He posted so many words...
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 24 2014 15:18 GMT
#1453
On July 25 2014 00:18 kushm4sta wrote:
vivax, i think there's a lot more townie reasoning in that post.

chopin, i townread him for a very specific reason, his townread on damdred. you can't scumread someone just on "exuberance". that is a very unsafe use of meta.
a safe use of meta is seeing that he got angry in his town games when people called him scum, therefore him doing that isn't especially scummy.

Thanks for telling me how to play, I really needed to be taught. I guess I just retire now.
Bach to the basics.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
July 24 2014 15:19 GMT
#1454
***shouldnt vote nav

This is my last phone post too difficult
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 24 2014 15:19 GMT
#1455
Vivax are you really that sure I'm mafia?
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 24 2014 15:19 GMT
#1456
Yeah... Let's not lynch Vivax.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
July 24 2014 15:20 GMT
#1457
Since Koshi refused to make clear if I was right or wrong, he only said "go read", can you tell me what you think of this.

On July 24 2014 20:48 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 17:23 Koshi wrote:
I wonder if people really think that Xatalos made that post and was serious about it. Silly guys.

Anyhoezels. Only 3 scummers. If you think scum makes a entrance post like Xatalos in this game as scum I don't know what to say... Unless you can proof he is going for the too scummy to be scum tactic. And I think Xatalos can't do that.


So Xatalos confirmed town.


Show nested quote +
I mean, the joke in the start was enough to vote you


It looked to me like he was agreeing with CR on the joke Xata made (making him look scummy), when earlier he said he was confirmed town for that entrance. I don't know if I've been mixing things up cause Koshi doesn't want to communicate like a normal person.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 24 2014 15:20 GMT
#1458
Koshi, why is your vote still on Xatalos?
Bach to the basics.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 24 2014 15:20 GMT
#1459
oh you aren't, my votecount is wrong
Bach to the basics.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
July 24 2014 15:21 GMT
#1460
On July 25 2014 00:18 Chopin Liszt wrote:
Vivax is a stupid lynch.

Not as stupid as Xatalos, but stupid.


It's not stupid if you promise me to lynch the fuck out of Teemursu and Koshi afterwards.
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