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On July 24 2014 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 00:15 Xatalos wrote:On July 24 2014 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
alsoalsoalso, why didnät you call out those bad cases on you? you should have been the first one to realize they are shit. I think I did mention that it's stupid to call me "infinitely scummy" for a single listpost, but overall I don't feel like it's inherently scummy to make bad cases. It's D1 after all, good cases are rare. no it's not scummy to make bad cases. that's not what i am suggesting. did you even read my post and what it was referring to? i am not calling anyone mafia for making bad cases. damdred made a posts that really said nothing. he didn't follow that up in any way - even when there were questions which you didn't even answer. Cava called damdred town for that post, then he called you not necessarily scum. first of all that post was not good, second, he cannot give damdred a town read if he does not think you are scummy. because he didn't call the case bad. you either agree with a case or not, he didn't do either but STILL the post was somehow good. like, he semi-agreed with it without saying so. wishy-washy as fuck. Haru called you out for buddying after those two guys. Buddying is not scummy unless you explain why. Stupid as fuck. Teemu called you scummy for who knows why. Now why didn't YOU call these people out for those things? Like do you want people just attack you for dumb shit and do nothing about it? Or scared of saying something that is ACTUALLY scummy? idk.. i just can't see why you would like to have bad cases on you running around without cutting them out straight up.
I'm not really worried about being lynched and I know my own alignment, so it's kind of nice to have initial suspicions on me to see how they develop / how other players react. At least it's better than everyone sheeping to some lurker. Plus there isn't really much to say about those posts you mentioned. They're either weak suspicions or not even real suspicions at all.
Damdred's post has probably been the most useless one, yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if there's scum among this group.
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On July 24 2014 00:46 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 00:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think you misquoted something Haru.. Where
On July 24 2014 00:43 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 16:43 Teemursu wrote:On July 23 2014 16:12 Navillus wrote:
Teemursu unrelated to the content could you just try to consolidate your posts a bit more, it just makes things more readable.
On other notes, I hadn't noticed that post by Palmar which is definitely a problem post, I also would really like for vayne to explain the Haru vote.
Obi and temmursu what do you think of xatalos, damdred and kush? Sure, sorry, I guess the style comes from more fsat phased video mafia.  Xatalos leaning scum, damdred had kind of a bad entrance to the thread and his posting since hasn't been so good that I'd put him higher. kush I have leaning town. He's posting some reads and pressuring people. Anyway, what's your read on Obi? The whole sheeping kush thing I did to apply som pressure, and imo he's reacting badly to it. I still stand by what I've said about him doing jack shit about providing any content, though, and him callin me a moron, retard and an idiot instead of giving reads or askng any relevant questions looks really bad for him.I want to see if he actually commits to calling me a moron for the rest of thr game, though. His response to teemu reeks of anger, which is bad. It screams scum to me. But I don't have anything else to back the feeling up, so I can only wait and see his responses to other pressure and his general posting. I certainly don't agree (as a town) with what obiwan is doing to react to teemu.
In this post, or then i don't get what you are saying.
I thought i asked you about Cava and then you quote some post that has nothing to do with him unless i am mistaken?
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On July 24 2014 00:47 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 24 2014 00:15 Xatalos wrote:On July 24 2014 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
alsoalsoalso, why didnät you call out those bad cases on you? you should have been the first one to realize they are shit. I think I did mention that it's stupid to call me "infinitely scummy" for a single listpost, but overall I don't feel like it's inherently scummy to make bad cases. It's D1 after all, good cases are rare. no it's not scummy to make bad cases. that's not what i am suggesting. did you even read my post and what it was referring to? i am not calling anyone mafia for making bad cases. damdred made a posts that really said nothing. he didn't follow that up in any way - even when there were questions which you didn't even answer. Cava called damdred town for that post, then he called you not necessarily scum. first of all that post was not good, second, he cannot give damdred a town read if he does not think you are scummy. because he didn't call the case bad. you either agree with a case or not, he didn't do either but STILL the post was somehow good. like, he semi-agreed with it without saying so. wishy-washy as fuck. Haru called you out for buddying after those two guys. Buddying is not scummy unless you explain why. Stupid as fuck. Teemu called you scummy for who knows why. Now why didn't YOU call these people out for those things? Like do you want people just attack you for dumb shit and do nothing about it? Or scared of saying something that is ACTUALLY scummy? idk.. i just can't see why you would like to have bad cases on you running around without cutting them out straight up. I'm not really worried about being lynched and I know my own alignment, so it's kind of nice to have initial suspicions on me to see how they develop / how other players react. At least it's better than everyone sheeping to some lurker. Plus there isn't really much to say about those posts you mentioned. They're either weak suspicions or not even real suspicions at all. Damdred's post has probably been the most useless one, yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if there's scum among this group.
Exactly who and why?
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On July 24 2014 00:39 kushm4sta wrote:
cause i know you love lists...
1. HaruRH
2. Koshi
3. teemursu
4. Chopin Liszt
5. VayneAuthority
6. raynpelikoneet
7. ObiWanShinobi
8. Navillus
9. GlowingBear
10. kushm4sta
11. Chairman Ray
12. Vivax
13. Xatalos
14. batsnacks
15. Damdred
16. Palmar
Haha dat list 
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'I feel that xatalos is making a towncircle with koshi and all his 'gut townreads/don't want to lynch d1'. I don't like his interaction with koshi either. It is just straight up buddying.
Xatalos also immediately came out to present himself as town town town. Still weird.'
I don't care about buddying. I do it when I'm scared of being lynched too. However, it is how he is doing so much suspicious things at once. Jumping in by buddying with koshi and all his neutral reads, feeling like he is making a towncircle and combined with his unnecessary need to explain to everyone this is his town meta and almost begging for towm reads on him.
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On July 24 2014 00:35 VayneAuthority wrote:
this is one of those funny games where the people "scumhunting" are more likely to be scum. with 3 mafia only you have to really shit on the thread and make it unreadable or you will just lose.
It's time for you to shine!
Who is scum Mr. VA.
It has been too long since you had a good game.
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On July 24 2014 00:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 00:46 HaruRH wrote:On July 24 2014 00:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think you misquoted something Haru.. Where Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 00:43 HaruRH wrote:On July 23 2014 16:43 Teemursu wrote:On July 23 2014 16:12 Navillus wrote:
Teemursu unrelated to the content could you just try to consolidate your posts a bit more, it just makes things more readable.
On other notes, I hadn't noticed that post by Palmar which is definitely a problem post, I also would really like for vayne to explain the Haru vote.
Obi and temmursu what do you think of xatalos, damdred and kush? Sure, sorry, I guess the style comes from more fsat phased video mafia. Xatalos leaning scum, damdred had kind of a bad entrance to the thread and his posting since hasn't been so good that I'd put him higher. kush I have leaning town. He's posting some reads and pressuring people. Anyway, what's your read on Obi? The whole sheeping kush thing I did to apply som pressure, and imo he's reacting badly to it. I still stand by what I've said about him doing jack shit about providing any content, though, and him callin me a moron, retard and an idiot instead of giving reads or askng any relevant questions looks really bad for him.I want to see if he actually commits to calling me a moron for the rest of thr game, though. His response to teemu reeks of anger, which is bad. It screams scum to me. But I don't have anything else to back the feeling up, so I can only wait and see his responses to other pressure and his general posting. I certainly don't agree (as a town) with what obiwan is doing to react to teemu. In this post, or then i don't get what you are saying. I thought i asked you about Cava and then you quote some post that has nothing to do with him unless i am mistaken?
Oh. I meant to say at the start that I feel the same as teemu, where cava/obi is overreacting to a small pressure with tons of aggression.
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but why is it suspicious?
you just keep saying it's suspicious. do you think he "was scared of being lynched" with.... i think zero votes on him 3h (or so) into the game?
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On July 24 2014 00:52 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 00:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 24 2014 00:46 HaruRH wrote:On July 24 2014 00:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think you misquoted something Haru.. Where On July 24 2014 00:43 HaruRH wrote:On July 23 2014 16:43 Teemursu wrote:On July 23 2014 16:12 Navillus wrote:
Teemursu unrelated to the content could you just try to consolidate your posts a bit more, it just makes things more readable.
On other notes, I hadn't noticed that post by Palmar which is definitely a problem post, I also would really like for vayne to explain the Haru vote.
Obi and temmursu what do you think of xatalos, damdred and kush? Sure, sorry, I guess the style comes from more fsat phased video mafia. Xatalos leaning scum, damdred had kind of a bad entrance to the thread and his posting since hasn't been so good that I'd put him higher. kush I have leaning town. He's posting some reads and pressuring people. Anyway, what's your read on Obi? The whole sheeping kush thing I did to apply som pressure, and imo he's reacting badly to it. I still stand by what I've said about him doing jack shit about providing any content, though, and him callin me a moron, retard and an idiot instead of giving reads or askng any relevant questions looks really bad for him.I want to see if he actually commits to calling me a moron for the rest of thr game, though. His response to teemu reeks of anger, which is bad. It screams scum to me. But I don't have anything else to back the feeling up, so I can only wait and see his responses to other pressure and his general posting. I certainly don't agree (as a town) with what obiwan is doing to react to teemu. In this post, or then i don't get what you are saying. I thought i asked you about Cava and then you quote some post that has nothing to do with him unless i am mistaken? Oh. I meant to say at the start that I feel the same as teemu, where cava/obi is overreacting to a small pressure with tons of aggression.
yes i agree with that too. Cava has however a "history" of getting dumblynched on D1 as town so i don't see this something that's really scummy, it's just weird.
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I could lynch Cav for being unfriendly very fast. I found it awkward tbh.
I don't really know why he is on my townlist.
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On July 24 2014 00:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:but why is it suspicious? you just keep saying it's suspicious. do you think he "was scared of being lynched" with.... i think zero votes on him 3h (or so) into the game?
???
How did you get the interpretation that I thought xata begged for town reads because he was scared of being lynched?
It is very, very, very fine to do if you're just buddying with someone, or even wirh a group. But doing it WHILE trying to explain how he is in his town meta now, posting useless reads that seem to blend into town and trying to buddy up isn't really what towns do.
Do you do that?
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Yeah, I could really lynch Cav as well. Damn. I fucking told him to be more friendly and buddy me in a previous game.
He is out of my sacred townlist.
On July 23 2014 23:16 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 18:45 Koshi wrote:On July 23 2014 18:36 HaruRH wrote:On July 23 2014 18:32 Chairman Ray wrote:On July 23 2014 18:22 Koshi wrote:On July 23 2014 18:04 Palmar wrote:
Kosher might be mafia for not instasheeping my case Koshi flies solo this game. On July 23 2014 18:18 Chairman Ray wrote:On July 23 2014 17:23 Koshi wrote:
I wonder if people really think that Xatalos made that post and was serious about it. Silly guys.
Anyhoezels. Only 3 scummers. If you think scum makes a entrance post like Xatalos in this game as scum I don't know what to say... Unless you can proof he is going for the too scummy to be scum tactic. And I think Xatalos can't do that.
So Xatalos confirmed town. What are the two posts you are referring to? I am talking only about the listpost. Not the entrance tbh. That one was legit bad. I don't think the list thing is alignment indicative. What gives you the impression that it's town? Because koshi makes these listposts too and he dont want to be seen as a hypocrite for criticising it since he will do it too All these people are already bad lynches for D1: HaruRH teemursu ObiWanShinobi Navillus GlowingBear kushm4sta batsnacks Damdred I need to keep this updated for endgame gloating. Bad lynches for D1: HaruRH teemursu Navillus Xatalos kushm4sta batsnacks Damdred Really good lynches for D1: Vivax ObiWanShinobi
I apologize to all my fans that I have to put somebody from the townlist straight into the can lynch list. These are grave mistakes.
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On July 24 2014 00:47 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 24 2014 00:15 Xatalos wrote:On July 24 2014 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
alsoalsoalso, why didnät you call out those bad cases on you? you should have been the first one to realize they are shit. I think I did mention that it's stupid to call me "infinitely scummy" for a single listpost, but overall I don't feel like it's inherently scummy to make bad cases. It's D1 after all, good cases are rare. no it's not scummy to make bad cases. that's not what i am suggesting. did you even read my post and what it was referring to? i am not calling anyone mafia for making bad cases. damdred made a posts that really said nothing. he didn't follow that up in any way - even when there were questions which you didn't even answer. Cava called damdred town for that post, then he called you not necessarily scum. first of all that post was not good, second, he cannot give damdred a town read if he does not think you are scummy. because he didn't call the case bad. you either agree with a case or not, he didn't do either but STILL the post was somehow good. like, he semi-agreed with it without saying so. wishy-washy as fuck. Haru called you out for buddying after those two guys. Buddying is not scummy unless you explain why. Stupid as fuck. Teemu called you scummy for who knows why. Now why didn't YOU call these people out for those things? Like do you want people just attack you for dumb shit and do nothing about it? Or scared of saying something that is ACTUALLY scummy? idk.. i just can't see why you would like to have bad cases on you running around without cutting them out straight up. I'm not really worried about being lynched and I know my own alignment, so it's kind of nice to have initial suspicions on me to see how they develop / how other players react. At least it's better than everyone sheeping to some lurker. Plus there isn't really much to say about those posts you mentioned. They're either weak suspicions or not even real suspicions at all. Damdred's post has probably been the most useless one, yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if there's scum among this group.
Ok my post is useless, atleast respond to it and say that and answer some questions that I posed instead of totally ignoring it since you got back.
And I really haven't had a chance to follow it up so far today thats why i'm posting now
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Let me explain in a more simple way since you seem to not understand
Buddying = ok
Buddying + trying to convince people you're on your town meta + posting useless list posts + forming town circles WHEN THE GAME JUST STARTED = not ok, suspicious as fuck
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On July 24 2014 00:56 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 00:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:but why is it suspicious? you just keep saying it's suspicious. do you think he "was scared of being lynched" with.... i think zero votes on him 3h (or so) into the game? ??? How did you get the interpretation that I thought xata begged for town reads because he was scared of being lynched? It is very, very, very fine to do if you're just buddying with someone, or even wirh a group. But doing it WHILE trying to explain how he is in his town meta now, posting useless reads that seem to blend into town and trying to buddy up isn't really what towns do. Do you do that?
because you said:
I don't care about buddying. I do it when I'm scared of being lynched too. However, it is how he is doing so much suspicious things at once. Jumping in by buddying with koshi and all his neutral reads, feeling like he is making a towncircle and combined with his unnecessary need to explain to everyone this is his town meta and almost begging for towm reads on him.
Buddying with Koshi (which is not suspicious normally (?) but you DID call it suspicious - because mafia buddies when being scared of being lynched).
What am i missing?
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On July 24 2014 00:59 HaruRH wrote:
Let me explain in a more simple way since you seem to not understand
Buddying = ok
Buddying + trying to convince people you're on your town meta + posting useless list posts + forming town circles WHEN THE GAME JUST STARTED = not ok, suspicious as fuck
no it's not. If you can't explain why buddying in this particular situation is scummy you should exclude it from your "scummy things" list. Basic stuff...
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it's like you are reading someone scum, and including reasons "what townies do".
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hey Xatalos quick question - are you using mafia tools this game?
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On July 24 2014 01:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 00:59 HaruRH wrote:
Let me explain in a more simple way since you seem to not understand
Buddying = ok
Buddying + trying to convince people you're on your town meta + posting useless list posts + forming town circles WHEN THE GAME JUST STARTED = not ok, suspicious as fuck no it's not. If you can't explain why buddying in this particular situation is scummy you should exclude it from your "scummy things" list. Basic stuff...
So you post list posts of everyone when the game just started and some people are not even on yet?
In this case, it obvious he is just blending into town. Trying to come off as a strong town d1, buddying with the most influential player at that time (koshi) and trying tp say how everyone is ok and his scumreads are people who aren't even online yet nor posted jack IS SCUMMY TO HELL
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On July 24 2014 00:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 00:47 Xatalos wrote:On July 24 2014 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 24 2014 00:15 Xatalos wrote:On July 24 2014 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
alsoalsoalso, why didnät you call out those bad cases on you? you should have been the first one to realize they are shit. I think I did mention that it's stupid to call me "infinitely scummy" for a single listpost, but overall I don't feel like it's inherently scummy to make bad cases. It's D1 after all, good cases are rare. no it's not scummy to make bad cases. that's not what i am suggesting. did you even read my post and what it was referring to? i am not calling anyone mafia for making bad cases. damdred made a posts that really said nothing. he didn't follow that up in any way - even when there were questions which you didn't even answer. Cava called damdred town for that post, then he called you not necessarily scum. first of all that post was not good, second, he cannot give damdred a town read if he does not think you are scummy. because he didn't call the case bad. you either agree with a case or not, he didn't do either but STILL the post was somehow good. like, he semi-agreed with it without saying so. wishy-washy as fuck. Haru called you out for buddying after those two guys. Buddying is not scummy unless you explain why. Stupid as fuck. Teemu called you scummy for who knows why. Now why didn't YOU call these people out for those things? Like do you want people just attack you for dumb shit and do nothing about it? Or scared of saying something that is ACTUALLY scummy? idk.. i just can't see why you would like to have bad cases on you running around without cutting them out straight up. I'm not really worried about being lynched and I know my own alignment, so it's kind of nice to have initial suspicions on me to see how they develop / how other players react. At least it's better than everyone sheeping to some lurker. Plus there isn't really much to say about those posts you mentioned. They're either weak suspicions or not even real suspicions at all. Damdred's post has probably been the most useless one, yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if there's scum among this group. Exactly who and why?
Probably not Teemursu. He's been pretty involved and expressed clear opinions so far. It's not like he's even having me as a strong scumread, just a FOS or something, which doesn't seem that unreasonable.
Damdred is potential scum. Seems like he's mostly been trying to stay under the radar and he's pretty cautious / passive.
Dunno about Haru atm. Null. His reasons for suspecting me are kind of dumb, but not totally outrageous when there's little to work with during D1. TBD.
ObiWan and batsnacks didn't really give much of an opinion on me and just townread Damdred. Kind of weird, I guess... There could be scum among these two. ObiWan felt somewhat townish earlier though.
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