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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 25 2014 21:55 GMT
#2501
Yeah but you said it during D1. It wasn't even night yet.
I had a good night of sleep.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 25 2014 21:58 GMT
#2502
Vayne said in his list ray was null for him why would he shoot a null read....

conusing to me
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
July 25 2014 22:02 GMT
#2503
On July 26 2014 06:55 Koshi wrote:
Yeah but you said it during D1. It wasn't even night yet.


I had already decided by the end of day 1. Night posts are usually shit anyway I didn't bother to read most of them.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 25 2014 22:02 GMT
#2504
I can't wrap my head around VA claiming the shot either though :/ But if he just claimed scum, then I'll take it...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 25 2014 22:02 GMT
#2505
What is a miller or a self-awared miller
I'm adorable.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 25 2014 22:04 GMT
#2506
Miller = returns red (Mafia) to detective/cop checks even if he's town
Self-aware Miller = knows that he is actually a Miller (certainly possible, but not that common I think)

I was just somewhat doubtful that he would be a Vigi AND a Miller AND self-aware....
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
July 25 2014 22:04 GMT
#2507
On July 26 2014 07:02 GlowingBear wrote:
What is a miller or a self-awared miller


miller is a town that shows scum in cop checks. This role is commonly not revealed to the player. A self-aware miller is when this is revealed to the player.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 25 2014 22:05 GMT
#2508
Plus it would make a ton of sense for scum to claim that since even if someone got a redcheck on him last night, it wouldn't mean anything.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 25 2014 22:09 GMT
#2509
I want to hear more from VayneAuthority
I'm adorable.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 25 2014 22:13 GMT
#2510
On July 26 2014 07:05 Xatalos wrote:
Plus it would make a ton of sense for scum to claim that since even if someone got a redcheck on him last night, it wouldn't mean anything.

With so many unique roles there might be a mechanism like miller to make things messier for town.


It is quite impossible that scum has a *miller* role. So I don't know if batsnacks is so genious to just pull out a miller claim as scum.

Sounds a bit too clever.
I had a good night of sleep.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 25 2014 22:17 GMT
#2511
Hmm. In any case, I'll just assume that the obvious explanation is correct - that batsnacks breadcrumbed shooting rayn and actually shot rayn. Nothing else really seems to make much sense atm. I'd like to hear from VA again too though.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 25 2014 22:22 GMT
#2512
I just read p126-123 backwards, which made me very confused.

Then these claims made me even more confused.

Why does Vayne claim a shot as mafia if he knows a townie did it and he will get cc?
Why does batsnacks counterclaim as mafia, at best going 1 for 1?

What's going on?

Chopin
Bach to the basics.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 25 2014 22:27 GMT
#2513
normally i am quite good at working claim thingies out. very good even. but this...
Bach to the basics.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 25 2014 22:28 GMT
#2514
Maybe they are both town vigis that shot rayn.
I had a good night of sleep.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 25 2014 22:29 GMT
#2515
that would be an unbelievable coincidence
Bach to the basics.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 25 2014 22:29 GMT
#2516
Yeah, dunno. I really don't know how it makes sense for either of them to fakeclaim in this situation.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 25 2014 22:29 GMT
#2517
maybe unbelievable is the wrong word. amazing.
Bach to the basics.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 25 2014 22:31 GMT
#2518
I doubt we would even have two Vigis. Even more doubtful that they would shoot the same target......
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 25 2014 22:31 GMT
#2519
we weren't really particularly definitely lynching either of them either.

too many ly words. you get my drift
Bach to the basics.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 25 2014 22:31 GMT
#2520
Vayne could be trying to take a nightshot from the actual vigi. Actual vigi claims and fucks vayne's strategy.
I'm adorable.
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