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On July 25 2014 14:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeah, I'm still here. Just don't try to kill me for sheeping someone and we'll be cool.
Did you ever respond to Vivax's case?
You still here? I've responded Vivax's case about me. About Palmar I haven't too extensively, and I don't really need to. I don't need to defend him myself nor do I think he's really getting lynched.
I looked at major point of the Koshi v Damdred interaction, and it didn't convince me. That's all I can really bother saying about it.
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On July 25 2014 16:25 Teemursu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2014 16:17 HaruRH wrote:On July 25 2014 16:14 Teemursu wrote:On July 25 2014 16:08 HaruRH wrote:On July 25 2014 15:56 Teemursu wrote:On July 25 2014 15:49 HaruRH wrote:
It is roughly another 10 hours right?
Ask me anything teemu. Roughly yeah, Idk what to ask. I've been asking a lot and not following up enough, so I wouldn't mind answering some questions either. If you want me to start, what do you think of Viv? Especially now since Chopin seems to be your strongest scum read? Vivax lies. Chopin (hf) is an asshat. Xatalos is so scummy I need to redefine scummy in my scumdictionary. Rayn is raging but probably town. koshi is town. glowingbear is town. CR pops in and out. Probably not scum. VA... well, I can't read him. Teemu is a null read. Kush town. obiwan stinks scum. Batsnacks mia. Palmar... null. damdred probably town. Cases on him weak. Don't really think I have anything great to comment about this, maybe other than that the two first names you haven't said the alignment of. Do you think they're both mafia, or? I would feel safe lynching into the 4 scummers (chopin/vivax included). Btw scum please shoot me so I can prove I'm veteran. Or else I wouldn't have dared to post shit d1. Are you hard claiming? Which instrument do you play?
I play the lifevest. Quite a fun instrument, especially when the ship is fucking sinking.
Not hardclaiming. Just putting it out that I'm a prepared passenger.
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On July 25 2014 16:42 Teemursu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2014 14:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeah, I'm still here. Just don't try to kill me for sheeping someone and we'll be cool.
Did you ever respond to Vivax's case? You still here? I've responded Vivax's case about me. About Palmar I haven't too extensively, and I don't really need to. I don't need to defend him myself nor do I think he's really getting lynched. I looked at major point of the Koshi v Damdred interaction, and it didn't convince me. That's all I can really bother saying about it.
About Koshi*, not sure why I wrote Palmar. 
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On July 25 2014 16:04 Teemursu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2014 02:26 Vivax wrote:On July 25 2014 02:22 Teemursu wrote:On July 25 2014 02:17 Chopin Liszt wrote:On July 25 2014 02:15 Teemursu wrote:On July 25 2014 02:08 Chopin Liszt wrote:On July 25 2014 02:05 Vivax wrote:On July 25 2014 02:02 Chopin Liszt wrote:i'm finally around!  Hi. On July 24 2014 22:39 Teemursu wrote:
I feel like town is in a terrible spot. Wanted to ask you about this. i read it and it looked terrible because he was: a) talking to koshi like koshi was confirmed town previously ("hey koshi we need to lynch between obi/damd if not xata") b) a complaint straight after someone had switched their vote to one of the names he wanted to lynch Ok, and? How does a) b) make me scum? mafia talk to people like they are confirmed town because they know they are confirmed town and if people are going after the people that you are scum reading then why on earth would town be in a terrible spot unless every suspicion you have put on people has been baseless? How does b) make me scum? I was talking to Koshi about who we should lynch because he was the only person at the time I found myself agreeing with a lot of his posts. The spot where I was with Koshi, Viv, GB and Xata, Koshi seemed to be the town in the spot while I had to re-evaluate who I wanted to lynch. If you think I'm mafia because I read someone as strongly town and wanted to hear his opinion. Lies, this was your opinion on Koshi & me at the time: On July 24 2014 22:32 Teemursu wrote:On July 24 2014 22:26 Chopin Liszt wrote:
The fact that we are sleepwalking towards this lynch with almost everyone on Xatalos either barely here or not at all, and all the votes off Xatalos being spread about, means that Xatalos is probably town.
So let's not lynch him. Thing is, I'm not reading anyone that's voting Xata as strongly scum, which is making me paranoid that I'm mafiasiding if I vote with you/Xata/Damdred/Obi and I'm not so sure about Koshi and Vivax. This is probably really bad/idiotic/beginner-like, but it's my honest feel of paranoia. Right now I just want to go by my reads and vote on either Obi, or now Damdred, who I just went through and am pretty convinced that he's a good shot at finding mafia. On July 24 2014 22:36 Teemursu wrote:On July 24 2014 22:34 Koshi wrote:On July 24 2014 22:32 Teemursu wrote:On July 24 2014 22:26 Chopin Liszt wrote:
The fact that we are sleepwalking towards this lynch with almost everyone on Xatalos either barely here or not at all, and all the votes off Xatalos being spread about, means that Xatalos is probably town.
So let's not lynch him. Thing is, I'm not reading anyone that's voting Xata as strongly scum, which is making me paranoid that I'm mafiasiding if I vote with you/Xata/Damdred/Obi and I'm not so sure about Koshi and Vivax. This is probably really bad/idiotic/beginner-like, but it's my honest feel of paranoia. Right now I just want to go by my reads and vote on either Obi, or now Damdred, who I just went through and am pretty convinced that he's a good shot at finding mafia. No you are on the right track. Perfect. Koshi, if you're town, you have to realise that Vivax is almost guaranteed not going to get lynched today. I feel like we need to decide who to lynch between Obi/Damdred if we don't want to lynch Xata. None of these posts imply a strongly imply my opinion on either one of you alignment-wise, kind of awkward to quote these posts and call me a liar for nothing.
Yea, and you lied cause you said during this night: If you think I'm mafia because I read someone as strongly town and wanted to hear his opinion.
Implying you read Koshi strongly as town when the quotes suggest you weren't that sure at the time.
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On July 25 2014 16:55 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2014 16:04 Teemursu wrote:On July 25 2014 02:26 Vivax wrote:On July 25 2014 02:22 Teemursu wrote:On July 25 2014 02:17 Chopin Liszt wrote:On July 25 2014 02:15 Teemursu wrote:On July 25 2014 02:08 Chopin Liszt wrote:On July 25 2014 02:05 Vivax wrote:On July 25 2014 02:02 Chopin Liszt wrote:i'm finally around! Hi. On July 24 2014 22:39 Teemursu wrote:
I feel like town is in a terrible spot. Wanted to ask you about this. i read it and it looked terrible because he was: a) talking to koshi like koshi was confirmed town previously ("hey koshi we need to lynch between obi/damd if not xata") b) a complaint straight after someone had switched their vote to one of the names he wanted to lynch Ok, and? How does a) b) make me scum? mafia talk to people like they are confirmed town because they know they are confirmed town and if people are going after the people that you are scum reading then why on earth would town be in a terrible spot unless every suspicion you have put on people has been baseless? How does b) make me scum? I was talking to Koshi about who we should lynch because he was the only person at the time I found myself agreeing with a lot of his posts. The spot where I was with Koshi, Viv, GB and Xata, Koshi seemed to be the town in the spot while I had to re-evaluate who I wanted to lynch. If you think I'm mafia because I read someone as strongly town and wanted to hear his opinion. Lies, this was your opinion on Koshi & me at the time: On July 24 2014 22:32 Teemursu wrote:On July 24 2014 22:26 Chopin Liszt wrote:
The fact that we are sleepwalking towards this lynch with almost everyone on Xatalos either barely here or not at all, and all the votes off Xatalos being spread about, means that Xatalos is probably town.
So let's not lynch him. Thing is, I'm not reading anyone that's voting Xata as strongly scum, which is making me paranoid that I'm mafiasiding if I vote with you/Xata/Damdred/Obi and I'm not so sure about Koshi and Vivax. This is probably really bad/idiotic/beginner-like, but it's my honest feel of paranoia. Right now I just want to go by my reads and vote on either Obi, or now Damdred, who I just went through and am pretty convinced that he's a good shot at finding mafia. On July 24 2014 22:36 Teemursu wrote:On July 24 2014 22:34 Koshi wrote:On July 24 2014 22:32 Teemursu wrote:On July 24 2014 22:26 Chopin Liszt wrote:
The fact that we are sleepwalking towards this lynch with almost everyone on Xatalos either barely here or not at all, and all the votes off Xatalos being spread about, means that Xatalos is probably town.
So let's not lynch him. Thing is, I'm not reading anyone that's voting Xata as strongly scum, which is making me paranoid that I'm mafiasiding if I vote with you/Xata/Damdred/Obi and I'm not so sure about Koshi and Vivax. This is probably really bad/idiotic/beginner-like, but it's my honest feel of paranoia. Right now I just want to go by my reads and vote on either Obi, or now Damdred, who I just went through and am pretty convinced that he's a good shot at finding mafia. No you are on the right track. Perfect. Koshi, if you're town, you have to realise that Vivax is almost guaranteed not going to get lynched today. I feel like we need to decide who to lynch between Obi/Damdred if we don't want to lynch Xata. None of these posts imply a strongly imply my opinion on either one of you alignment-wise, kind of awkward to quote these posts and call me a liar for nothing. Yea, and you lied cause you said during this night: Show nested quote +If you think I'm mafia because I read someone as strongly town and wanted to hear his opinion. Implying you read Koshi strongly as town when the quotes suggest you weren't that sure at the time.
That was when people were going apeshit, which is when I started reading Koshi as strongly town. Where am I not making myself clear?
None of this is still making me mafia. Is this really all you have on me?
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I'll just say that if you're town and think I'm scum you really need to learn to play this game, or at least sit back and show me if you can reassess and figure out that you're wrong.
I'm pissed as crazy about koshi's push on me yesterday cause it was incredibly stupid, baseless and stubborn. It just stops me from being able to take a good look at the game when there are people constantly tunneling you for bullshit, who refuse to explain what they find scummy.
And that you didn't realize that the way Koshi was pushing me simply was not townie, cause it was 90 % yelling and 10 % reasons, if even, and he refused to talk with me properly, and still does with others, is one of the reasons I want you to die, cause I just can't see how a townie could be so insightless and animal.
So I'm giving you the chance now to take a look at my filter and actually explain to me what in it makes me scum, and what gives you doubts, or I'll just further categorize you as ungenuine tunneler not worth of being talked to but only to be pushed relentless.
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On July 25 2014 16:59 Teemursu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2014 16:55 Vivax wrote:On July 25 2014 16:04 Teemursu wrote:On July 25 2014 02:26 Vivax wrote:On July 25 2014 02:22 Teemursu wrote:On July 25 2014 02:17 Chopin Liszt wrote:On July 25 2014 02:15 Teemursu wrote:On July 25 2014 02:08 Chopin Liszt wrote:On July 25 2014 02:05 Vivax wrote:On July 25 2014 02:02 Chopin Liszt wrote:i'm finally around! Hi. On July 24 2014 22:39 Teemursu wrote:
I feel like town is in a terrible spot. Wanted to ask you about this. i read it and it looked terrible because he was: a) talking to koshi like koshi was confirmed town previously ("hey koshi we need to lynch between obi/damd if not xata") b) a complaint straight after someone had switched their vote to one of the names he wanted to lynch Ok, and? How does a) b) make me scum? mafia talk to people like they are confirmed town because they know they are confirmed town and if people are going after the people that you are scum reading then why on earth would town be in a terrible spot unless every suspicion you have put on people has been baseless? How does b) make me scum? I was talking to Koshi about who we should lynch because he was the only person at the time I found myself agreeing with a lot of his posts. The spot where I was with Koshi, Viv, GB and Xata, Koshi seemed to be the town in the spot while I had to re-evaluate who I wanted to lynch. If you think I'm mafia because I read someone as strongly town and wanted to hear his opinion. Lies, this was your opinion on Koshi & me at the time: On July 24 2014 22:32 Teemursu wrote:On July 24 2014 22:26 Chopin Liszt wrote:
The fact that we are sleepwalking towards this lynch with almost everyone on Xatalos either barely here or not at all, and all the votes off Xatalos being spread about, means that Xatalos is probably town.
So let's not lynch him. Thing is, I'm not reading anyone that's voting Xata as strongly scum, which is making me paranoid that I'm mafiasiding if I vote with you/Xata/Damdred/Obi and I'm not so sure about Koshi and Vivax. This is probably really bad/idiotic/beginner-like, but it's my honest feel of paranoia. Right now I just want to go by my reads and vote on either Obi, or now Damdred, who I just went through and am pretty convinced that he's a good shot at finding mafia. On July 24 2014 22:36 Teemursu wrote:On July 24 2014 22:34 Koshi wrote:On July 24 2014 22:32 Teemursu wrote:On July 24 2014 22:26 Chopin Liszt wrote:
The fact that we are sleepwalking towards this lynch with almost everyone on Xatalos either barely here or not at all, and all the votes off Xatalos being spread about, means that Xatalos is probably town.
So let's not lynch him. Thing is, I'm not reading anyone that's voting Xata as strongly scum, which is making me paranoid that I'm mafiasiding if I vote with you/Xata/Damdred/Obi and I'm not so sure about Koshi and Vivax. This is probably really bad/idiotic/beginner-like, but it's my honest feel of paranoia. Right now I just want to go by my reads and vote on either Obi, or now Damdred, who I just went through and am pretty convinced that he's a good shot at finding mafia. No you are on the right track. Perfect. Koshi, if you're town, you have to realise that Vivax is almost guaranteed not going to get lynched today. I feel like we need to decide who to lynch between Obi/Damdred if we don't want to lynch Xata. None of these posts imply a strongly imply my opinion on either one of you alignment-wise, kind of awkward to quote these posts and call me a liar for nothing. Yea, and you lied cause you said during this night: If you think I'm mafia because I read someone as strongly town and wanted to hear his opinion. Implying you read Koshi strongly as town when the quotes suggest you weren't that sure at the time. That was when people were going apeshit, which is when I started reading Koshi as strongly town. Where am I not making myself clear? None of this is still making me mafia. Is this really all you have on me?
And by the way you and Koshi were the cause for people going apeshit. Just to remind you, you will find more instances of me trying to discuss lynches in a legit way, and arguing in a logical way compared to you who were going apeshit over GB finding Koshi scummy for the roleclaim he was trying to force, and yelling vivax vivax vivax.
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On July 25 2014 17:04 Vivax wrote:
I'll just say that if you're town and think I'm scum you really need to learn to play this game, or at least sit back and show me if you can reassess and figure out that you're wrong.
I'm pissed as crazy about koshi's push on me yesterday cause it was incredibly stupid, baseless and stubborn. It just stops me from being able to take a good look at the game when there are people constantly tunneling you for bullshit, who refuse to explain what they find scummy.
And that you didn't realize that the way Koshi was pushing me simply was not townie, cause it was 90 % yelling and 10 % reasons, if even, and he refused to talk with me properly, and still does with others, is one of the reasons I want you to die, cause I just can't see how a townie could be so insightless and animal.
So I'm giving you the chance now to take a look at my filter and actually explain to me what in it makes me scum, and what gives you doubts, or I'll just further categorize you as ungenuine tunneler not worth of being talked to but only to be pushed relentless.
So you admit not having a good look at the game?
I already have expressed why I think you're mafia. You thought Koshi is "70%" mafia and you didn't make a single strong case on him before or in the post you said that. You started thinking I'm suddenly mafia for reading Koshi as town, and yet you can't build a good case on me. Instead, all you do is harp on me for reading him as town and point out posts where I've said that I don't have a strong opinion on either one of you yet.
Telling me to L2P isn't going to change your scummy play that I've addressed multiple times and that you haven't responded to yet. So what is the point of this post? Instead of "giving me a chance to read your filter and come up with an accusation", why don't YOU address what I just now posted on like p. 99?
Wanting me dead because of how you think Koshi is treating you is probably even a weaker accusation against me than me town reading Koshi, LOL.
If you think the way Koshi pushed on you wasn't townie, why didn't you push on me earlier for that? I did express at some point earlier in the day that I thought both of you were kinda town during your fight. Why didn't you question me for that?
Instead, you tried to pocket me by saying "I was giving you light" and you for some reason wanted my opinion about Chopin accusing you for not speaking bluntly and actually calling people mafia, which is what I've been accusing you of right now.
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That's not a case for me being scum that's a bunch of nitpicking.
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You need to make something that is supposed to be convincing for the thread and not for me, so talk to the thread.
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On July 25 2014 17:21 Vivax wrote:
That's not a case for me being scum that's a bunch of nitpicking.
That's it? That's your defense?
How is it nitpicking when I point out that you're going against me NOW for something I did a way, way longer time ago, and instead at that time ask me a question about Chopin and say I'm giving light to you?
I can accuse for close to the same thing you accused Koshi for. You're scumreading me now because it suits your needs to stay alive and accuse me back.
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Here's how you do it:
(quote)
Here we see how Vivax bsbsbs
(quote)
Then he bsbsbsb
bs 1 and bs 2 make Vivax scum cause the scum motive was to bsbsbsbs
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On July 25 2014 17:22 Vivax wrote:
You need to make something that is supposed to be convincing for the thread and not for me, so talk to the thread.
Everyone will see this conversation and judge it for themselves. I'm confident that I'm getting my point across now and that I'm not expressing myself poorly, as I did when I was half-sleep deprived and frustrated with the game and real life issues.
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Dude don't try to have me going emotional and accusatory it's not going to work.
If you really want to lynch me then you have to prove to the thread why I'm scum with a chain of reasoning, like I did with Koshi.
Otherwise you just stick to the animal nature you displayed D1.
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On July 25 2014 17:25 Vivax wrote:
Here's how you do it:
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Here we see how Vivax bsbsbs
(quote)
Then he bsbsbsb
bs 1 and bs 2 make Vivax scum cause the scum motive was to bsbsbsbs
I don't care how you think I should be making a case because everyone else will judge these posts by themselves, as you said is more important, right? If you don't want to respond to my accusations, and instead call them "nitpicking", that's your problem. As I've already said, everyone else will decide for themselves.
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Yes, it is for everyone to see that you're not legitimately trying to figure out my alignment and push for my lynch properly, good job, come again.
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On July 25 2014 17:30 Vivax wrote:
Yes, it is for everyone to see that you're not legitimately trying to figure out my alignment and push for my lynch properly, good job, come again.
It doesn't matter that you think this. You're going to get lynched and everyone else will be doing it, not you.
See? I'm going to try to get you lynched, and you're still not doing anything to get me lynched. That's what you committed to, though, right?
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Brb, lunch and some work. I would be glad to see some discussion stir up, since it's pretty quiet currently.
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For me it's not just all about getting lynched who's pissing me off at one particular moment, it's about lynching scum, hence why I gave you the chance to prove your push was genuine, so I could reconsider if it was a good idea lynching you.
Wanted to see if you were a tunneled townie with real reasons and real intent or just a scummer shitflinging.
Needless to say what feeling I get from this page.
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And anyway why did Koshi stop scumreading me all of a sudden.
Seems legit
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