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Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
July 08 2014 13:52 GMT
#907
Alakaslam so cute.

On July 08 2014 22:40 prplhz wrote:
obiwan damdred sloosh

what?

On July 08 2014 22:44 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 22:42 iamperfection wrote:
On July 08 2014 22:34 Koshi wrote:
On July 08 2014 22:28 iamperfection wrote:
On July 08 2014 19:18 Koshi wrote:
On July 08 2014 19:14 Forumite wrote:
On July 08 2014 19:04 Koshi wrote:
On July 08 2014 18:46 prplhz wrote:
i didn't defend forumite early on, i just said that iamp and robik shouldn't jump to conclusion when there could be a good meta read that he just didn't inform the thread of. not providing a reason for your reads isn't scummy, it's not having a reason for them that's scummy.

can you go more into detail with what you like about slOosh' case on forumite?

I like the "Stop. Think" part of the case because it makes the case very sheepable and very understandable.
On July 08 2014 06:01 slOosh wrote:
Heyo.

I am not liking the Forumite. Ok are you ready for this?

On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.

prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.

I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.

Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.

##Vote: Koshi

He meta reads prplhz, then asks prplhz for his reads.

Stop. Think. Why do you ask people for reads?

You do it because either you want to get a better read on them, or you think they are town and you value their reads. At 99% town, he isn't doing it for the first reason, so it must be the second. But at this point the game just started, and most of the posts were "hahaha jokez" posts, so clearly nothing meaningful to be gleaned off here.

Conclusion: Forumite has a scummy mindset of "asking people for reads looks like activity" but when he does it it looks totally out of place.

Why did ask Forumite prplhz his reads? This is a very good question. SlOosh also believes in this sentence showing a scummy mindset in Forumite. You are trowing away SloOsh his argument that this one sentence makes Forumite scum but have you ever seen a scummer make a case showing off such dept in thought? Remember that this is SloOsh his first post, so one (Robik) could argue that SlOosh is being scum tryharding. You think so as well?

SloOsh reading that one sentence and making an understandable/sheepable case around that one sentence makes me respect SlOosh his scumhunting abilities. Or his scum playing abilities.

Why would I want to lynch somebody who shows me that he can make a case around somebody making 1 bad sentence? Out of fear he plays atypical godly scum? I will pass on that.
I ask prplhz for reads because I want to know what he thinks, why did you think I asked?

Why did you want to know what he thinks? Do you respect his early reads so much that you want to sheep him? Why not ask iamp what he was thinking?

and i dont get why you would post this koshi if you didn't think i was being a leader.

Look at you being smart. Keep going!

There is nothing to go on with. It just shows what you say is trash and shouldn't be listened to.

I would guess your just a misguided townie as you have been too active and drawing a lot of attention.


I meant keep going on with the smartness.

I am not misguided at all btw. Closest guy figuring out the scumteam is without doubt me.
Who´s in the scumteam?

On July 08 2014 22:48 Vivax wrote:
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On July 08 2014 22:47 Forumite wrote:
On July 08 2014 22:41 Vivax wrote:
Then there's this post by Toad which is in my opinion too hyperbole, he's saying Cora is backtracking from all his reads at the same time, when I found his Robik scumread to be clear enough and I don't see him backtracking from it, I see him saying that it's a read early in the game and that it might change, but still his top scumread.

Overall I'm not trusting Toad cause he gives me the feeling he's pushing people before figuring them out, and there are multiple instances where he feels the need to emphasize he's being so townie, and how he goes guns blazing on everyone.


On July 08 2014 08:16 Toadesstern wrote:
On July 08 2014 08:13 Vivax wrote:
You have to explain to me how Cora weighing in different aspects of somebody being town or scum makes him scum.
I do that all the time too.

It's like you're expecting him to lock a target, and only bring arguments of one kind (guilty or innocent).
That's not how you find mafia, that's how you get somebody lynched.

I would portray you as almost polar opposites cause while he's considerate about the reads he gives and shows some doubts, you're playing the "lock-on and post all scummy stuff you can find-game", but for one exception, Forumite (who you voiced doubts about), but for some reason you'd lynch him before prplhz while I have yet to see you voicing doubts about prplhz himself.

Do you realize where my beef lies?

like I said, my beef with Cora is that he did that with every single aspect. Mafias are more cautious about what they're posting and tend to try to be more people-pleaser than townies.

I don't mind people bringing multiple arguments into the table, heck I did the same with forumite not a long time ago. I do however mind it if the guy brings 10 arguments on the table and calls all 10 of his own arguments useless and weak in the same post. Not just some of them but literally every single one.
The guy is horribly afraid to put his head out in any kind of way.

Not sure if I agree. In the beginning he was doing random voting with his first push on prplhz, that´s not scummy. Repeating how everyone thinks he´s town, maybe a bit odd.


Why random voting, he seemed pretty adamant about defending his point when I called him out on it.
Just because there´s not much substance behind a random vote doesn´t mean he has to cave at the first sign someone disagrees. It doesn´t provide pressure if he´s not pressuring.
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
July 08 2014 14:01 GMT
#912
On July 08 2014 22:57 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 07:11 Damdred wrote:
On July 08 2014 07:09 Koshi wrote:
On July 08 2014 07:09 Damdred wrote:
On July 08 2014 06:54 Koshi wrote:
On July 08 2014 06:46 iamperfection wrote:
On July 08 2014 06:44 Koshi wrote:
Why? Game is looking pretty easy.

How so.

Strong people (aka vets or people I know) are all looking like they want to help town.
The less volume posters are cool guys.
My scumread wants to proof himself.

The downsize is we got 4 0 posters but they will come through. ##Believe.

lol i take it i'm the scum read that wants to proove himself lol gg

Not really.


my apologies then i'll just go take a nap then lol

Open the nested quotes

This is textbook scum
I feel like I should see what you mean, but I don´t. Is it Damdred being nervous without a reason and then go back to lurk?
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
July 08 2014 14:31 GMT
#927
I´d lynch a lurker today.
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
July 08 2014 14:32 GMT
#929
What´s the case on ObiWanShinobi?
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
July 08 2014 14:32 GMT
#931
k

##Vote: layabout
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
July 08 2014 15:00 GMT
#963
On July 08 2014 23:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
What about my lurker Forumite? What, is mderg your scumbuddy or something?
Why do you want to lynch mderg when there are 3-4 people with one post?
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
July 08 2014 15:06 GMT
#979
On July 09 2014 00:01 ExO_ wrote:
##Vote: ObiWanShinobi

I'm going to be completely honest I haven't read the thread in it's entirety. But from what I have skimmed through, it looked like forumite was pushed up prematurely for silly Day 1 reasons. So I prefer Obi instead.

Changed my mind.

##Unvote
##Vote ExO_
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
July 08 2014 15:16 GMT
#985
On July 09 2014 00:13 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm not going to unvote forumite that quickly. I want him to feel the grip of death around his neck and see him sweat in fear.
I still think he's mighty scummy.
Just drop it. I was pressured yesterday, today I´m just disappointed that you are unable to read my posts. I´ve allready explained the mess yesterday, now make a coherent case (for real this time) and get a wagon going or do something usefull with your time.
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
July 08 2014 15:17 GMT
#988
On July 09 2014 00:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
NO JK JK I'm not gonna vote for Forumite. LOL

I considered it, but no, I'm too scared.

:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
July 08 2014 15:18 GMT
#989
On July 09 2014 00:17 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 00:16 Forumite wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:13 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm not going to unvote forumite that quickly. I want him to feel the grip of death around his neck and see him sweat in fear.
I still think he's mighty scummy.
Just drop it. I was pressured yesterday, today I´m just disappointed that you are unable to read my posts. I´ve allready explained the mess yesterday, now make a coherent case (for real this time) and get a wagon going or do something usefull with your time.

hahahahahahaha

That goes for you too
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
July 08 2014 15:22 GMT
#992
On July 09 2014 00:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like I'm in here all about feeding fuel to the "lurker lynch" fire. But if you're just going to come in here and bluster bravado then I'm MORE THAN HAPPY to show you who you're not anymore Forumite.

I´m town, or what were you talking about?
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
July 08 2014 15:25 GMT
#995
On July 09 2014 00:23 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 00:18 Forumite wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:17 Koshi wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:16 Forumite wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:13 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm not going to unvote forumite that quickly. I want him to feel the grip of death around his neck and see him sweat in fear.
I still think he's mighty scummy.
Just drop it. I was pressured yesterday, today I´m just disappointed that you are unable to read my posts. I´ve allready explained the mess yesterday, now make a coherent case (for real this time) and get a wagon going or do something usefull with your time.

hahahahahahaha

That goes for you too

pls gooby pls

You are telling the one person who made the most cases (Toad) to use his time more useful when you haven't done jack shit this game. An hommage:

prplz town because I read him as scum
Koshi totes ruining thread with his 5 posts about riddles guys. I am totes upset. also many omgus.
Robik scum with the omgus threatening.
SlOosh sheeps to fake activity.
Toad I keep blabbering about. I don't really know what I am saying. Or do I? Nobody knows.
layabout pure lurker.
Exo lurker that was getting thread sentiment.

What did I miss?

nice list, I´d like to make lists someday
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
July 08 2014 15:32 GMT
#998
On July 09 2014 00:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 00:25 Forumite wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:23 Koshi wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:18 Forumite wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:17 Koshi wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:16 Forumite wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:13 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm not going to unvote forumite that quickly. I want him to feel the grip of death around his neck and see him sweat in fear.
I still think he's mighty scummy.
Just drop it. I was pressured yesterday, today I´m just disappointed that you are unable to read my posts. I´ve allready explained the mess yesterday, now make a coherent case (for real this time) and get a wagon going or do something usefull with your time.

hahahahahahaha

That goes for you too

pls gooby pls

You are telling the one person who made the most cases (Toad) to use his time more useful when you haven't done jack shit this game. An hommage:

prplz town because I read him as scum
Koshi totes ruining thread with his 5 posts about riddles guys. I am totes upset. also many omgus.
Robik scum with the omgus threatening.
SlOosh sheeps to fake activity.
Toad I keep blabbering about. I don't really know what I am saying. Or do I? Nobody knows.
layabout pure lurker.
Exo lurker that was getting thread sentiment.

What did I miss?

nice list, I´d like to make lists someday

Is the list scummy? Are you calling Koshi scum for making a list? Like, how is THIS post productive?

It´s not, I´m just pissed off at Toades and Koshi.
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
July 08 2014 15:40 GMT
#1002
On July 09 2014 00:37 HaruRH wrote:
Back on track and forumite is definitely a good lynch today.

Show nested quote +
On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.

prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.

I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.

Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.

##Vote: Koshi


He metareads prplhz as town, but doesn't include koshi's spam town meta as town. Totally ignoring koshi's meta at this point.

Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 23:31 Forumite wrote:
I´d lynch a lurker today.


Then after making a huge fuss about koshi, he moves on and wants to policy lynch lurkers. Either he gave up trying to make proper reads, or he is scared that people would see him as scum when he starts aggressively attacking another person.

Really? Of course I´m ignoring Koshi's metagame, I´ve never played against him before.
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
July 08 2014 15:42 GMT
#1005
On July 09 2014 00:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 00:32 Forumite wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:25 Forumite wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:23 Koshi wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:18 Forumite wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:17 Koshi wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:16 Forumite wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:13 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm not going to unvote forumite that quickly. I want him to feel the grip of death around his neck and see him sweat in fear.
I still think he's mighty scummy.
Just drop it. I was pressured yesterday, today I´m just disappointed that you are unable to read my posts. I´ve allready explained the mess yesterday, now make a coherent case (for real this time) and get a wagon going or do something usefull with your time.

hahahahahahaha

That goes for you too

pls gooby pls

You are telling the one person who made the most cases (Toad) to use his time more useful when you haven't done jack shit this game. An hommage:

prplz town because I read him as scum
Koshi totes ruining thread with his 5 posts about riddles guys. I am totes upset. also many omgus.
Robik scum with the omgus threatening.
SlOosh sheeps to fake activity.
Toad I keep blabbering about. I don't really know what I am saying. Or do I? Nobody knows.
layabout pure lurker.
Exo lurker that was getting thread sentiment.

What did I miss?

nice list, I´d like to make lists someday

Is the list scummy? Are you calling Koshi scum for making a list? Like, how is THIS post productive?

It´s not, I´m just pissed off at Toades and Koshi.

Well I don't care - if you're mafia then that's easy to say. What I care about is who you want to lynch. You asked for the case on ObiWan (a lurker) and you've tried to discourage MY preference mderg (a lurker) yet you say you'd lynch a lurker today. How about instead of continuing to be "pissed off" at Toad and Koshi, you tell us who YOU think is the best lynch today?

mderg has been posting, why do you want to lynch him over someone with one post?
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
July 08 2014 15:46 GMT
#1009
I liked what alakaslam found on damdred, but otherwise I have no idea who is scummy. Slight townread on Toades despite it all, scumread on Koshi and Robik but apparently this is how they play so whatever. I have a few townreads, many nullreads and a bunch of lurkers that I don´t want to have around at D3, so today I want to kill lurkers.
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
July 08 2014 16:05 GMT
#1015
On July 09 2014 00:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 00:42 Forumite wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:32 Forumite wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:25 Forumite wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:23 Koshi wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:18 Forumite wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:17 Koshi wrote:
On July 09 2014 00:16 Forumite wrote:
[quote]Just drop it. I was pressured yesterday, today I´m just disappointed that you are unable to read my posts. I´ve allready explained the mess yesterday, now make a coherent case (for real this time) and get a wagon going or do something usefull with your time.

hahahahahahaha

That goes for you too

pls gooby pls

You are telling the one person who made the most cases (Toad) to use his time more useful when you haven't done jack shit this game. An hommage:

prplz town because I read him as scum
Koshi totes ruining thread with his 5 posts about riddles guys. I am totes upset. also many omgus.
Robik scum with the omgus threatening.
SlOosh sheeps to fake activity.
Toad I keep blabbering about. I don't really know what I am saying. Or do I? Nobody knows.
layabout pure lurker.
Exo lurker that was getting thread sentiment.

What did I miss?

nice list, I´d like to make lists someday

Is the list scummy? Are you calling Koshi scum for making a list? Like, how is THIS post productive?

It´s not, I´m just pissed off at Toades and Koshi.

Well I don't care - if you're mafia then that's easy to say. What I care about is who you want to lynch. You asked for the case on ObiWan (a lurker) and you've tried to discourage MY preference mderg (a lurker) yet you say you'd lynch a lurker today. How about instead of continuing to be "pissed off" at Toad and Koshi, you tell us who YOU think is the best lynch today?

mderg has been posting, why do you want to lynch him over someone with one post?

Because his posting has had literally zero content. Some of the people you're referring to have given more opinions than mderg, so he fits the profile of "lurker scum" to me. So I think he has a higher-than-average chance of flipping mafia. THAT is why I'm voting for mderg, for like the second time or third! And STOP ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS WITH QUESTIONS!

##Unvote
##Vote: Forumite

I answered your question in a later post.

On July 09 2014 00:46 Forumite wrote:
I liked what alakaslam found on damdred, but otherwise I have no idea who is scummy. Slight townread on Toades despite it all, scumread on Koshi and Robik but apparently this is how they play so whatever. I have a few townreads, many nullreads and a bunch of lurkers that I don´t want to have around at D3, so today I want to kill lurkers.

I still don´t think mderg is a better lynch. He posted earlier, he will hopefully come back and start to contribute more. The one-post lurkers, nope. If they haven´t gotten into the game by now then I have no hope for them, and without modkills for inactivity we have to take care of them ourselves. I do not want layabout or HiroPro around at LYLO.
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
July 08 2014 16:17 GMT
#1019
On July 09 2014 01:09 Toadesstern wrote:
so wait and see if we have vigs. Wasting a lynch on someone that everyone can just vote without giving the slightest bit of a reason because laya and hiro have literally 1 post gives us nothing in the worst case. We'd be standing on d2 like it was d1 with nothing happening and everyone had a cheap way to pull their vote on someone.

The ones that are posting slightly and only under the radar without being completly afk at least generate some kind of comittment for people when voting.

Let the vigs deal with laya and hiro, don't waste a lynch on them and if we don't have vigs we'll start considering from d2, not sooner.

This makes sense, I agree. So what about ExO_? I don´t like him sneaking in when there was talk of killing lurkers.

On July 09 2014 01:13 layabout wrote:
who is saying that i am mafia right now?

FoS them dudes

Finger the shit out of them

FoS right back at you.

Have you read the thread? What do you think?
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
July 08 2014 17:59 GMT
#1061
##Unvote
##Vote: IAmRobik
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
July 08 2014 18:04 GMT
#1065
On July 09 2014 03:01 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 02:59 Forumite wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: IAmRobik


So what's your reason for voting robik now? Pressure?

What´s your reason for defending him?
:3
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