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If he's a real tracker, then his claim is simple, and everything checks out. This would have to mean that Alakaslam is mafia. However if Chrom mafia, then we have to look at why he fakeclaimed. We can split this into two scenarios where 27nb is mafia and where 27nb is town. If 27nb is mafia and Chrom is godfather, then at that moment they would probably think that Ritoky is the real cop. Chrom fakeclaimed as a way to save 27nb and try to get a mislynch on the cop. Ritoky's claim was pretty stupid anyways, so mafia could easily win the argument. However if Chrom is either vanilla mafia or knows that 27nb is town, then he would already know that Ritoky is fakeclaiming. There is absolutely no need for Chrom to fakeclaim against Ritoky, because there already exists a cop that will counterclaim, producing the exact same result. Chrom fakeclaiming in this situation would just be meaningless suicide. So we can split possible mafia scenarios into two buckets: #1 Chromatically - Mafia godfather 27ninjabunnies - Mafia Alakaslam - Town vet #2 Alakaslam - Mafia Chromatically - Town tracker | ||
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If Chrom is mafia vig/janitor, it doesn't make sense for him to fakeclaim. He knows that ritoky is fake cop if ritoky gave him a green check. If 27nb is mafia, then the optimal play would be to wait for the real cop to counterclaim, lynch ritoky that day, kill the cop, resulting in a ML and cop kill at no expense. If 27nb is town, then the optimal play would be to take the free green check, either let town mislynch 27nb if cop doesn't come out, or let town mislynch ritoky if cop does come out. Ritoky fakeclaiming was the greatest gift to mafia, and Chrom just threw it away. Doesn't make any sense to me. ##Vote: Alakaslam | ||
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On June 26 2014 12:03 strongandbig wrote: like, your reasoning only makes sense if you assume the real cop will counterclaim but there's no reason to assume that It's not a guaranteed assumption that cop will claim, however there is a likelihood that another cop, rolecop, tracker, or jailkeeper may reveal information to counterclaim ritoky. If any of them has any information that points to ritoky being fake, they will reveal right away because saving 27nb and getting a mafia lynched is very worth uncovering a role. Chrom didn't wait to see if anybody would claim. He counterclaimed right away. | ||
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On June 26 2014 16:18 27ninjabunnies wrote: CR, SNB, HF, and VA are mafia. Lets go. Vote SNB Do you think both slam and chrom are town then? | ||
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