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dravernor
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Netherlands6192 Posts
May 05 2014 19:14 GMT
#939
I will hopefully be more active from tomorrow too, or at least the day after, if I survive the night. (Am making a plan for a temporary alternative isp.)
In the meantime, if anyone has predictions beyond 'tamb is going to shoot Yell0w', it would be pretty cool to hear.
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dravernor
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Netherlands6192 Posts
May 06 2014 17:42 GMT
#985
I actually agree. I think Meat is town.
I think dfs is town.
I think bunnies might be town.
I think tamb is town.

I think Epishade is scum.
I think Eden might be scum.
I think ahs might be scum.
I think Yell0w might be scum.

If there are 4 mafia and 9 of us, then one more mislynch means GG?
I'm going to have to post my expansion on these points after dinner (family birthday so helping cook etc), and had a super long day. I'm scared of losing bunnies because she has shown she can be useful. Same with Eden, but I am hesitant of him because I also think he might be dangerous. Eh. Be back just now.
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dravernor
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Netherlands6192 Posts
May 06 2014 18:36 GMT
#988
On May 07 2014 03:33 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2014 02:21 dfs wrote:
Well, this sucks.

Meat - roleblocked, which suggests he's town (except if mafia held off their roleblock to call it themselves and appear as town)

mtamburini - wasn't roleblocked, which is interesting, because when it was clear that he's going to shoot Yell0w he was blocked, but when he expressed his thoughts on being paranoic and wanting to shoot Bunny he wasn't blocked (instead it looks like the block was used blindly in the hopes to hit another power role, because no one else called their roles).

Simple conclusion from that alone:
Yell0w - mafia.
Bunny - town.
Meat - can be either.

Now I regret not voting mtamburini first day because he's been useless just like I anticipated. His day 1 vig flip would have given us Yell0w flip earlier as now I am sure he is mafia.

Also I find it a bit ironic that I called Meat mafia for not talking and now I get accused of the same thing from Meat. I get it and i'm sorry, but I can't help it.


lol, dfs is sooooo mafia. yell0w has to be town. It was apparent to everyone that tam would shoot yellow. This is why he wasn't roleblocked. If tam had shot yellow the game would have been over. Instead mafia used their roleblock on me just in case i was a role and could do something.

Hang on, so if you got a pm saying you were role blocked, does that mean tamb should have gotten a pm the first time he was role blocked, if he HAS infact been roleblocked? Because he seemed confused for quite a while after as to why Yell0w hadn't died.
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dravernor
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Netherlands6192 Posts
May 06 2014 18:49 GMT
#991
On May 07 2014 03:47 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=766&topic_id=447955

starts from this post. The initial question of "suprise" is pretty bs. He posts 15 minutes later saying that he was roleblocked...He asks in his first post why is yellow alive

and then says the exact same thing and elaborates on his thoughts

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=772&topic_id=447955

That is why I was confused too. :/
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dravernor
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Netherlands6192 Posts
May 06 2014 19:04 GMT
#994
On May 07 2014 03:53 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2014 03:45 dfs wrote:
On May 07 2014 03:33 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
On May 07 2014 02:21 dfs wrote:
Well, this sucks.

Meat - roleblocked, which suggests he's town (except if mafia held off their roleblock to call it themselves and appear as town)

mtamburini - wasn't roleblocked, which is interesting, because when it was clear that he's going to shoot Yell0w he was blocked, but when he expressed his thoughts on being paranoic and wanting to shoot Bunny he wasn't blocked (instead it looks like the block was used blindly in the hopes to hit another power role, because no one else called their roles).

Simple conclusion from that alone:
Yell0w - mafia.
Bunny - town.
Meat - can be either.

Now I regret not voting mtamburini first day because he's been useless just like I anticipated. His day 1 vig flip would have given us Yell0w flip earlier as now I am sure he is mafia.

Also I find it a bit ironic that I called Meat mafia for not talking and now I get accused of the same thing from Meat. I get it and i'm sorry, but I can't help it.


lol, dfs is sooooo mafia. yell0w has to be town. It was apparent to everyone that tam would shoot yellow. This is why he wasn't roleblocked. If tam had shot yellow the game would have been over. Instead mafia used their roleblock on me just in case i was a role and could do something.


It was apparent he was going to shoot Yellow day1, yet they blocked him. day2 he talked about bunny as possible target, and they didn't block him, which is my point here.
They can possibly be both town, just like you can possibly be bullshiting everyone with your rolecall, but i'm going with what fits better in my mind right now.
And why would mafia target you? You don't stand out (expect for the beginning of the game), at least Bunny is a better target. I don't think a random roleblock makes sense.


Think about it this way. Bunny and Yellow are both town. He was roleblocked n1 to see if mafia could push a mislynch on either yellow tam. N2 Tam is either gonna shoot bunny or yellow, why block him? He isn't pointing his gun at any mafia. We where all suprised that tam didn't bother shooting anyone. So who do you roleblock next? There is no point in roleblocking bunnies, as she was probably put in jail, so there is no point in wasteing a double roleblock on her. Obviously there is no point in roleblocking ritoky who is going to die in the night cause he can't save himself. If we have 4 mafia then out of the 2 people remaining your only roleblock choice is either me or eden.

I've been posting since the begininning of the game as someone who has a role. I.E. posting little but still letting everyone know i've been keeping up with the thread.


Anyway, you chose me over eden, as in because you only had one of us to choose from as their is no point in roleblocking your own mafia, if you think you were going to win during the night. So just roleblock someone who could potentially do something.

I wouldn't have guessed you had a role by this information. It doesn't seem like any particular play style gives clues as to what position you are in. Thus far we've only managed to mislynch, and the people we chose were : Sweetfrost - someone relatively inactive, sqrt - someone active but not contributing. So, if we lynch someone who is extremely active/helpful - tamb or Eden or bunnies, do you think that will give us a different outcome? Both Sweetfrost and sqrt turned out to be town. I don't think posting style is indicative of anything. I, for example, have had a lot less time suddenly, and challenges with isp etc. That doesn't mean anything. I think the fact tamb didn't do anything or even say anything about his reasoning calls for at least a little suspicion., especially after calling vig.
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dravernor
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Netherlands6192 Posts
May 07 2014 20:10 GMT
#1057
Eh, I just picked a bad time to play mafia - really didn't realize how much time it would consume.
Anyway, I see lots of votes for me. and I don't really blame you guys for wanting me off, I have been of no use at all this game and my reads have been pretty pathetic.

tamb - I am still not sure what to think of tamb. He claims he will lead us to victory but so far he hasn't even made a shot.

MM1 - starts off the game by slipping under everyones radars, is afk for two days on ban and then comes back and (what appears to me) starts leading the town, which tamb is supposed to be doing.

guys i would rather vote dfs then dravernor
and
Like i know drav is mafia, but confirmed for me is epi, ahs, and dfs. I think dfs is a power role for mafia so i would like to lynch him and see if we can get vigi a shot tonight
seem to me to be very leaderish things to say.

Possible mafia alliance? I don't know. Two people claiming importance is what I see. Eden is also pretty strong with suggestions and reads, letting us know who we should vote off and who we should keep. I get that we're supposed to band together and co-ordinate our votes and reads and stuff to work best together, but all of our most active players are casting votes in weird directions.

Yell0w made jokes day 1, was persecuted and pressured. He is somehow still alive. He is either genuine town or a very smart mafia player. If so, tamb made a nice play of pretending to be vig and fake claiming to shoot him night 1, not shooting night 2 (because he can't ACTUALLY shoot) and thus both Yell0w and tamb are still here. He also voted me because he had no-one better to vote for?

Epishade whom I have been suspecting all along still hasn't convinced me he is clear, but he seemed pretty close to sqrt and disappointed by his loss, possibly because he felt sqrt was the only one who understood him. sqrt turned out to be town. I don't really know how to read that in relation to Epishade's post about him. I think his post about suspecting Eden was pretty good, but not enough to convince me.

Eden - has a lot of votes every here and there, willy nilly, and we all seem to trust him and his judgement just because he makes strong cases. Cases that may have lost us people who were good at reading others.

bunnies - seemed town to everyone on the surface. She basically did the opposite of Meat - started off strong and then grew quieter. Now she is going hardcore in saying

Yeah mystery is not the kill here today. If he was actually roleblocked, we are lynching town.

So fr off the table today we have me, tamburini, and mystery.

So unvote him, or I vote you.

Another possible alliance? Unlikely, but not impossible. Just weird. Why are you acting weird bunnies? Dude.

Is it possible you still get a pm if someone role blocked you, regardless of if you have a role or not? In the light of letting someone know they have been targeted?

ahswtini if you knew how long it took me to write my blogs you would know why it has taken me so long to post after getting home i don't really see what is so mafia about ahs (and myself either infact) - he hasn't been interacting a lot, sure, and he hasn't been putting pressure on anyone, but maybe he is busy too? I dunno, I only suspected him in the first place because a lot of you seemed to be making short cases against him, reading into them. But I'm still not entirely sure. 50:50.

dfs - he is rather quiet too, i dont know what to think of him. He makes a lot of pure logic based calls on people, which i like, but it doesn't say anything about him being mafia or town, and it is hard to get a read out of him like that.

Yes, that was a summary of what has been going on, and my reads on people based off of their actions. Not enough to save me, of course, but I am better able to judge people after I have summarized them. Anyway, whatever, I am bad at this kind of game and I don't have the right personality for it.

Based on his playstyle, I am going to vote Mysterymeat and his erratic moevement, reasoning and voting.

##VOTE Mysterymeat

For the record I think you're all fun people
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dravernor
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Netherlands6192 Posts
May 07 2014 20:16 GMT
#1059
On May 08 2014 05:11 ahswtini wrote:
Ok I'm unvoting for now.

Show nested quote +
On May 08 2014 05:02 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
i explained already ahs, on why i switched my vote to drav....

The way lynch system works is that both drav and I are tied at 3 votes, drav is going to come online vote for me in order to save herself, even though she thinks im town. Then if i switch my vote to drav, i'll still be the one getting lynched. Also ahs, if you believe that both dfs and i are devo scum as you posted earlier, then switch your vote to dfs... Its pretty clear that i'm not going to get lynched.

Sorry I didn't notice you'd voted for drav, I just saw you place two town on that list.

Again, Mafia were certain that mtamburini was going to shoot yellow tonight. They let it go through because it would have lost us the game immediately if it had actually gone through. If yellow was Mafia, I don't see why his buddies would just let him die. If, as Mafia I wanted to keep scum yellow alive, I would have blocked and killed mtamburini last night.

That actually makes a lot of sense. Hmm.
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dravernor
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Netherlands6192 Posts
May 07 2014 20:25 GMT
#1061
1. I also thought a lot of other people were scummy. And your play was suspicious, which is why I voted for you.

2. I never had the time, and then my read changed after rereading his filter and now it looks way too neutral.

3. Why are they obviously town? Also I don't know what the rest of that sentence meant.
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dravernor
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Netherlands6192 Posts
May 07 2014 21:50 GMT
#1107
Ah, well i am going to bed. Goodnight guys, and gg!
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dravernor
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Netherlands6192 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-16 22:34:46
May 16 2014 22:34 GMT
#1442
Well shit
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dravernor
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Netherlands6192 Posts
May 16 2014 23:13 GMT
#1453
Just want to say well done to eden, you did reeeeeally well for a solo mafia. I was the most useless piece of shit in the histoey of mafia, so congrats on getting this far carrying us. You're a good guy
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dravernor
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Netherlands6192 Posts
May 16 2014 23:15 GMT
#1454
Also epishade, sorry, you're a cool guy. And MM1 happy birthday i have pic for you
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dravernor
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Netherlands6192 Posts
May 17 2014 05:21 GMT
#1491
Ah tamb I was so mad at you for your vigi claim. I legit believed you for a while until you claimed to have withheld your shot the sexond night. Then I was like nopenopenope.

Haha thanks Amiko, your words are appreciated ^_^ also meat, lol that fake roleblock claim made us all go wat.
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