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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 16:44 GMT
#1263
Jesus christ the dude HIMSELF says multiple times who is posting.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 16:50 GMT
#1269
Fuck you, you literally just said this:
On March 20 2014 01:36 Giggletummy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 22:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 19 2014 22:04 Holyflare wrote:
Other than that i think koshi pretty town

Well this is pretty fucking annoying because i think this too. I have no idea what am i missing here because the Coag situation actually does affect to my reads. I don't think anyone should have had a townread on him and if they say "because he posted so much" is not a reliable tell considering they were something like 5-headed hydra. I have no idea why someone thought Coag was town at that point and if that's the case and it was reasonable to assume he was town please someone tell me why.
coag as mafia not only doesn't post but he doesn't even interact with the thread. There's some old game where he replaces in as mafia and essentially just made 1-2 posts a day, sometimes claiming not to know when lynch is or what day it is. coag posting a bunch and getting incensed is unlike that and more likely town coag. am i the only person who didn't know early on that coag was actually a boatload of people on his account?

It doesn't mean shit if there is one or a thousand people with him on the account.
The fact that there is even one other person makes your argument invalid.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 16:55 GMT
#1273
Anyways it does not matter because his read is full of shit and based on reasoning that makes noone mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 16:57 GMT
#1276
On March 20 2014 01:53 Palmar wrote:
to be fair if that one person is Kush then it's not like you should expect activity galore. And I think coag said almost all of what he posted was coag and coag only.

And why should i assume it is in fact Coag?
Just because he says so and because he has posted more than in last 100 games he has played as mafia AND as town?
In my opinion i had good reasons to assume that was in fact NOT Coag.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 16:58 GMT
#1278
On March 20 2014 01:56 Palmar wrote:
That Coag read isn't what makes GT mafia, it's the promising content/failing to deliver as I pointed out earlier that does.

No it's the read on me which is so bad it can't come from a townie.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 17:04 GMT
#1285
On March 20 2014 02:00 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 01:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 20 2014 01:56 Palmar wrote:
That Coag read isn't what makes GT mafia, it's the promising content/failing to deliver as I pointed out earlier that does.

No it's the read on me which is so bad it can't come from a townie.


he hasn't said he had a read on you at all, in fact he didn't even call you scummy for misrepresenting him like you did. He said we should stop clogging up the thread with the scooby doo stuff but then started all this coag stuff which has 0 relevance as he hasn't called you scum at all

I have not misrepresented anything.
I called him mafia for making up a bullshit read ("rayn looks bad") on me based on absolutely nothing and without referencing any evidence why i actually look bad. He took a stance that makes no sense from town perspective, the only explanation i can think of is that he knew Coag is town (because he did not even look/reference the argument at all).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 17:05 GMT
#1286
He gave no reasons why i look bad.
"Because you argued with Coag in the first hour of the game and didn't do anything else" is not a valid reason. Never.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 17:09 GMT
#1289
On March 20 2014 02:07 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 02:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 20 2014 02:00 Holyflare wrote:
On March 20 2014 01:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 20 2014 01:56 Palmar wrote:
That Coag read isn't what makes GT mafia, it's the promising content/failing to deliver as I pointed out earlier that does.

No it's the read on me which is so bad it can't come from a townie.


he hasn't said he had a read on you at all, in fact he didn't even call you scummy for misrepresenting him like you did. He said we should stop clogging up the thread with the scooby doo stuff but then started all this coag stuff which has 0 relevance as he hasn't called you scum at all

I have not misrepresented anything.
I called him mafia for making up a bullshit read ("rayn looks bad") on me based on absolutely nothing and without referencing any evidence why i actually look bad. He took a stance that makes no sense from town perspective, the only explanation i can think of is that he knew Coag is town (because he did not even look/reference the argument at all).



I'm quoting what he was saying

Show nested quote +
Stop misrepresenting crap and stop believing that people can only be thinking one or two things. yeah, i'm absolutely saying you looked bad for just arguing and arguing with coag. it didn't go anywhere, it didn't help the thread, and it just spammed useless pages. just like all this scooby doo stuff.


He doesn't call you scummy or anything, just that you look bad. He doesn't even mention his earlier thought processes of me and dp just about this which had already happened at the time he was around anyway

Oh right, good point.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 17:12 GMT
#1291
Palamr Giggletummy not posting a case right after promising to do so is not alignment indicative. There is no reason for mafia to clearly promise posting a case and then just not do it. They know they will be called out of it so what's the point? If mafia calls someone scum they know they are expected to post reasoning for it. It's not like he did not know what to say and just left because he could not follow up his earlier post.

I think it's bad logic to think so.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 17:48 GMT
#1309
On March 20 2014 02:45 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 02:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palamr Giggletummy not posting a case right after promising to do so is not alignment indicative. There is no reason for mafia to clearly promise posting a case and then just not do it. They know they will be called out of it so what's the point? If mafia calls someone scum they know they are expected to post reasoning for it. It's not like he did not know what to say and just left because he could not follow up his earlier post.

I think it's bad logic to think so.


rayn you're a dumbass.

Mafia knows they get called out on contradictions, posting reads with no reasoning, lurking and various other things THEY STILL DO. All of these things are really obvious and can be avoided very easily. Yet we still lynch scum based on them all the time.

My logic is great. Unless GT flips town in which case it was you bad logic that led to the lynch and I had nothing to do with it.

What i am trying to say is that the act in itself is not alignment indicative. The reasons behind them might be. You know, basic stuff.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 17:54 GMT
#1313
People i don't like atm:

GiggleTummy - as explained
djodref - made one case which he has retracted from, then disappeared
Vivax - what Koshi said
tehpoofter - is not reading properly, refuses to answer simple questions

Hopeless1der - needs to help if town
VisceraEyes - waiting for contributions, needs to help if town

Alakaslam - MIA
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 18:00 GMT
#1317
thrawn what has DP done that make you think that he is town?
This is what you say:
On March 19 2014 19:35 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 19:29 Djodref wrote:
On March 19 2014 19:21 thrawn2112 wrote:
On March 19 2014 19:19 Djodref wrote:
On March 19 2014 19:15 thrawn2112 wrote:
yeah i'd lynch ve


And for what reason exactly ?


a lack of reasons not to lynch him


And why VE over some other guys I assume you also lack of reasons not to lynch ?
Why did you bring up a lynch on VE just when DP was just mentioning him ?


here is my current pool of lynch candidates, i've arrived at this list by eliminating people who have done things that make me think they must be or probably are town

3. Hopeless1der
4. djodref
5. Holyflare
6. VisceraEyes
11. Oatsmaster
12. GiggleTummy
15. Alakaslam

I never said "VE over some other guys," there are obviously a lot of people in this game that deserve to die

there must be a reason.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 18:03 GMT
#1318
If we can eliminate Vivax and VE from being mafia this will be really good.

VE talk to me about tehpoofer. Did you look at his posts other than his posts towards you at the start of the game? Do you think that's alignment indicative? I mean, it's the easiest way to start a game with players you have not played with (excluding you) as either alignment.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 18:12 GMT
#1323
On March 20 2014 03:03 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 03:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
thrawn what has DP done that make you think that he is town?
This is what you say:
On March 19 2014 19:35 thrawn2112 wrote:
On March 19 2014 19:29 Djodref wrote:
On March 19 2014 19:21 thrawn2112 wrote:
On March 19 2014 19:19 Djodref wrote:
On March 19 2014 19:15 thrawn2112 wrote:
yeah i'd lynch ve


And for what reason exactly ?


a lack of reasons not to lynch him


And why VE over some other guys I assume you also lack of reasons not to lynch ?
Why did you bring up a lynch on VE just when DP was just mentioning him ?


here is my current pool of lynch candidates, i've arrived at this list by eliminating people who have done things that make me think they must be or probably are town

3. Hopeless1der
4. djodref
5. Holyflare
6. VisceraEyes
11. Oatsmaster
12. GiggleTummy
15. Alakaslam

I never said "VE over some other guys," there are obviously a lot of people in this game that deserve to die

there must be a reason.


this post felt pretty truthful

I don't think that's a good way of figuring out DP's alignment. He is one of the people who is more than happy to make that kinda post as mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 18:19 GMT
#1328
On March 20 2014 03:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm going to give you my thoughts on his entire filter because he has one and I can.

His intro post is odd because on the one hand it gives "content" which he then needs to explain if asked, but on the other hand it's content that is easily dismissable because A) it's so early and no one has done anything and B) the reasoning he gives is so nebulous and largely non-alignment-indicative that it can pretty much just be taken for what it is - an MSPaint drawing in a forum game. But he /does/ give reasoning so meh.

The weird part is where he states explicitly that he doesn't have a read on me, that he's pinging for a reaction and that you can ignore it. Like, okay fine. So he was pinging me.

But I have to wonder. What is he expecting from me that I must be scum because I'm not already tearing it up. After all, I'm among the first people in the thread in spite of my early disappearance. I was the first to Paint a Painting. THAT early in the game, I'd say most of that stuff is more town-indicative than scum-indicative.

Anyway moving on, he then interjects into the HF-DP discussion to ask HF if DP's read makes him scum, in a way that seems like he's on the DP-town side of things. This is...fine to me. He doesn't ask in a way that makes you think HF looks worse, he feels like he thinks HF and DP are BOTH town, which I sort of agree with.

And he then pockets Vivax hard. Not sure if intentional, but Vivax has said some townie things and I agree that he looks town, so he may have just been overstating it or whatever.

Ultimately I think Banks is PROOOOBABLY town. I just agree with a couple of the things he's saying in what he's not saying, and in spite of him consistently calling me scum I think he's probably town.

I don't have a problem with his reads in particular.
I have problem with the fact that he referenced every player who had posted at that time besides Hopeless and Giggletummy (who were btw at that time prime targets of discussion). I also have a problem with him being asked a lot of questions (mainly about the above, and the fact that he called me out for voting Hopeless "without reasoning" and did not even read my posts because i just made a huge fucking post where ~50% was about Hopeless).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 18:20 GMT
#1329
EBWOP: ...and he just deliberately ignored each and every one of the questions.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 18:24 GMT
#1333
I don't think you have thought closely what i have said about Giggletummy Palmar..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 18:25 GMT
#1338
Don't worry Vivax. There is no way Koshi is going to lynch you based on inactivity.
Just post stuff when you are caught up.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 18:26 GMT
#1339
On March 20 2014 03:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Don't worry Vivax. There is no way Koshi is going to lynch you based on inactivity.
Just post stuff when you are caught up.

Funnily enough that's exactly what i told Vivax in GoT. He never posted stuff.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 18:35 GMT
#1342
Holyflare do you still think thrawn is mafia?
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