On March 21 2014 14:11 Holyflare wrote:
anyway thrawn:

thrawn, let's continue our discussion! are you still thinking the dp push on djo was weird? if so what do you make of the fact that 2 targets he pushed yesterday djo and giggle are now considered by him to be "only 1 scum and 1 town" for no reason whatsoever?

yes, but if i'm going to go down that route then my first stop will have to be lynching djodref. as to the second part, i don't know what you're referencing

thrawn2112

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March 21 2014 05:29 GMT

#2625

rayn what are you thinking right now?

thrawn2112

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March 21 2014 05:32 GMT

#2628

no. about the game in general

thrawn2112

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March 21 2014 05:48 GMT

#2641

tell everyone to set their time preference to kst as a requirement for signing up

thrawn2112

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March 21 2014 14:13 GMT

#2745

you are silly koshi

thrawn2112

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March 21 2014 14:28 GMT

#2747

On March 21 2014 23:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Djodref are you seriously saying this game is almost 140 pages and you can't point out any posts regarding your reads?

despite having read it 3 times

thrawn2112

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March 21 2014 14:34 GMT

#2753

On March 21 2014 23:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okya i have now decided Holyflare is insane town. There is one person who can produce 20 pages of at least semi-related content until N1 as mafia and that's not Holyflare.

i'm fine with working with this assumption for a few cycles

thrawn2112

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March 21 2014 14:38 GMT

#2757

On March 21 2014 23:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi why do you think thrawn is mafia? There are a lot of posts where he explains his reads and later on thrawn has been working more in the backgrounds like a "back-up" as town. I think this looks more like it, there is no scum agenda.

this is pretty much what i do. when i have town reads that i think are capable of solving the game then there is no need for me to take the leadership position I did in wc2. so i just do things i think will help town even if they aren't the kinds of things that typically lead to me pushing my own lynches or leadery stuff like that. i think koshi has misread me like this before. his first impression of me was wc2 so he expects me to play like that every game

thrawn2112

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March 21 2014 15:15 GMT

#2782

koshi re hopeless:

my reasons for changing that read at that time was that I liked the way hopeless carried himself whenever he returened to the thread (after my q/a session with him) and he did ok under pressure

as for my current town read on hopeless..

a lot of what palmar just said about hopeless is why I'm townreading him. he's just... kinda harmless so far? not only harmless, but he DID sheep the right wagon. I think I explained earlier that I think there is a difference between town sheeping and scum sheeping, scum selectively sheep according to their mafia agenda, while town will often sheep quite willy nilly, which is closer to how hopeless has been sheeping. there doesn't seem to be any malicious agenda behind it. it's simply sheeping for the sake of sheeping, which is actually a pretty good and townie strategy depending on what type of player you are.

rayn and other people are talking about how helpful and enlightening hopeless can be as town and I disagree with that.

thrawn2112

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March 21 2014 15:20 GMT

#2788

lol if giggletummy is mafia then the scum team had the shittiest D1 possible

thrawn2112

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March 21 2014 15:22 GMT

#2791

rayn are you saying the ggt is mafia for talking about shit that he shouldn't have talked about considering the vivax wagon was happening

thrawn2112

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March 21 2014 15:26 GMT

#2796

i think you become more useless the more people town read you

thrawn2112

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March 21 2014 15:34 GMT

#2799

On March 20 2014 00:35 Giggletummy wrote:
Flare/hopeless, and to a lesser extent DP.

hopeless, do you tend to AFK or lurk as mafia? More than town games?
Flare, after hopeless answers, do you agree with hopeless's answer?

I see you calling out what town/scum DP does, what other people do, but if hopeless is actually known for being lurky/AFK as mafia, why would you not just wait for a clear scumtell in a little bit?

On March 20 2014 00:37 Giggletummy wrote:
nm on that last question, there's some other comments about mafia hopeless activity

I think these posts are interesting.

Post #1: GGT wants hopeless to describe his own meta, and wants holyflare to comment on what hopeless says. Now why would GGT be doing this? He is scumreading both of those players, so he is trying to question his scumreads as to get better reads on them.

Post #2: GGT realizes that people have already commented about hopeless's meta, so he rescinds his earlier questions. This is strange because the purpose of GGT's first questions WEREN'T ONLY to learn about hopeless meta. If GGT was only interested in hopeless meta he wouldn't have specifically asked those questions to his his top scumreads. He could have just asked the entire thread or gone and looked up the information himself. The only possible reasons for those questions are to either gather info from his scumreads (if GGT is town) or to appear like he's trying to gather info on his scumreads (if he's scum).

But he rescinds the question! So he's not interested in what scumread hopeless has to say about his own meta, and he's not interested in what scumread holyflare has to say about what hopeless says.

So he's trying to appear like he is questioning his scumreads and not actually trying to question them?