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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 04:57 GMT
#917
The most important question to tehpoofer is why does he have reads or "reads" on everyone who has even remotely been talking or talked about in thread except fot Hopeless and GiggleTummy?

Now i am srsly gonna go to bed. I hope we have an answer when i wake up.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 05:01 GMT
#919
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 12:48 GMT
#1051
On March 19 2014 15:19 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 15:06 Vivax wrote:
On March 19 2014 14:59 Tehpoofter wrote:
@vivax so to you the first person to call someone else scum off something is typically more mafia sided so what do you think of rayn? now that we know coag's flip do you think that speaks more positively or negatively of rayn?


Still have to read about that push from Rayn, and it's not just the first person to call somebody scum, it's about how quickly that person does it. Typically you would expect the majority of people to be townies so going instascum on somebody without poking first is what I would see as scummy, in that regard Holyflare's reaction looks townier than hopeless since DP reacted before HF went scum on him . I gtg now.



I like that. I feel like thats a reasonable arguement and I kinda set you up to bury rayn there or throw some suspicion on him espeiclaly since he just came in and rando voted and didnt say anything. I don't think you're maf unless you're maf with exactly rayn here. From just a preliminary read I like the place your head is at vivax.

Elaborate on this. Also you have a lot of unanswered questions in thread sir.

On March 19 2014 18:52 Palmar wrote:
I'm amazed you think tehpoofter looks better than me.

I agree on Koshi and rayn, although you didn't get the correct reasoning for Koshi's alignment. The reason Koshi is town is that during the whole Coag/rayn thing he was actively trying to move the thread on from that argument. I think rayn is town so there is literally no reason for scum to try to stop an argument between what seem to be two townies.

This basically means that Koshi should be everyone's favorite townread at the moment.

Definitely not a tonwtell and i am amazed you consider this as one.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 12:49 GMT
#1052
I am also amazed people don't want to lycnh Hopeless who has clearly lied at least twice.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 12:59 GMT
#1059
On March 19 2014 21:51 Palmar wrote:
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On March 19 2014 21:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 19 2014 15:19 Tehpoofter wrote:
On March 19 2014 15:06 Vivax wrote:
On March 19 2014 14:59 Tehpoofter wrote:
@vivax so to you the first person to call someone else scum off something is typically more mafia sided so what do you think of rayn? now that we know coag's flip do you think that speaks more positively or negatively of rayn?


Still have to read about that push from Rayn, and it's not just the first person to call somebody scum, it's about how quickly that person does it. Typically you would expect the majority of people to be townies so going instascum on somebody without poking first is what I would see as scummy, in that regard Holyflare's reaction looks townier than hopeless since DP reacted before HF went scum on him . I gtg now.



I like that. I feel like thats a reasonable arguement and I kinda set you up to bury rayn there or throw some suspicion on him espeiclaly since he just came in and rando voted and didnt say anything. I don't think you're maf unless you're maf with exactly rayn here. From just a preliminary read I like the place your head is at vivax.

Elaborate on this. Also you have a lot of unanswered questions in thread sir.

On March 19 2014 18:52 Palmar wrote:
I'm amazed you think tehpoofter looks better than me.

I agree on Koshi and rayn, although you didn't get the correct reasoning for Koshi's alignment. The reason Koshi is town is that during the whole Coag/rayn thing he was actively trying to move the thread on from that argument. I think rayn is town so there is literally no reason for scum to try to stop an argument between what seem to be two townies.

This basically means that Koshi should be everyone's favorite townread at the moment.

Definitely not a tonwtell and i am amazed you consider this as one.


How is it not? Knowing Coag's flip can you think of ANY reason at all for scumKoshi to do what he did during that discussion? If you're town, and from your point of view you have to be town, what motivation does a scumkoshi have to stop the argument between townies?

The reason is Koshi knows i will not stop until i get my answers. There is no way he can stop me questioning Coag unless he says "hey rayn, you should stop this because this is where you are going wrong with your argument [insert reasons], this is why i think Coag is town [insert reasons], and this is where you should look instead [insert a person and reasons]." Now that would be a towntell. However towntell is not "stop Coag is town i go to sleep kthxbye" because it does not achieve anything. I did the exact same thing in Noir with DarthPunk and geript when i knew they would not stop no matter what i say. Everybody was "wow such town, tried to break up townie fight". lol. ezpz towncredit when i actually didn't do anything.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 13:00 GMT
#1061
On top of that at the moment Coag was scummy as fuck.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 13:04 GMT
#1064
Palmar do you seriously think Koshi and Giggletummy should have had such a strong townread on Coag at that time?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 13:07 GMT
#1067
On March 19 2014 22:04 Holyflare wrote:
Other than that i think koshi pretty town

Well this is pretty fucking annoying because i think this too. I have no idea what am i missing here because the Coag situation actually does affect to my reads. I don't think anyone should have had a townread on him and if they say "because he posted so much" is not a reliable tell considering they were something like 5-headed hydra. I have no idea why someone thought Coag was town at that point and if that's the case and it was reasonable to assume he was town please someone tell me why.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 13:10 GMT
#1070
Koshi show me those posts where you tell why Coag is town. Maybe i am missing something because i can't find it in your filter.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 13:11 GMT
#1073
That's not reasoning Palmar. That's saying "i don't think he is mafia" without giving any reasoning at all!!!!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 13:12 GMT
#1074
On March 19 2014 22:10 Holyflare wrote:
Rayn i thought your case on coag was blown way out of proportion for something so little and coag got mad because of it, i thought he looked worse because of the mad but i wouldn't leap to scum and i haven't really played games with coag to say it was town either

I didn't like dp for his change of stance on coag though from liking that post to going completely scummy on it and then ignoring stuff coag was saying to then goving coag an out

Now this is the point and this is a perfectly valid stance.
Calling him town is not a valid stance at that time.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 13:15 GMT
#1078
Maybe i just stop posting because apparently it's not okay to question your scumreads for obvious contradictions.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 13:18 GMT
#1080
On March 19 2014 22:15 Palmar wrote:
also rayn, I will move to hopeless if you provide me with these lies you say he said.

I have done it. thrawn has done it. Holyflare has done it.
Tell me you are too lazy to read my big post and i can quote it to you.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 13:20 GMT
#1082
On March 19 2014 22:18 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 22:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 19 2014 22:10 Holyflare wrote:
Rayn i thought your case on coag was blown way out of proportion for something so little and coag got mad because of it, i thought he looked worse because of the mad but i wouldn't leap to scum and i haven't really played games with coag to say it was town either

I didn't like dp for his change of stance on coag though from liking that post to going completely scummy on it and then ignoring stuff coag was saying to then goving coag an out

Now this is the point and this is a perfectly valid stance.
Calling him town is not a valid stance at that time.
well koshi had the same stance as me?

No he did not. He said Coag is town, it's not what you said.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 13:23 GMT
#1085
On March 19 2014 22:21 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 22:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi show me those posts where you tell why Coag is town. Maybe i am missing something because i can't find it in your filter.

It was not that Coag is town. But that you were painting him too red for something that wasn't extremely bad in my eyes. I also wanted you to look at other people and not spend all time on Coag. It wasn't doing the town atmosphere any favors. Looking back at my filter I was pretty protective about Coag from the get go but like I said, I am talented.

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On March 19 2014 08:28 Koshi wrote:
I need better punctuation sometimes.
Point is: Coag typed stuff to type stuff. Even though it was disruptive, it was not scummy.

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On March 19 2014 08:36 Koshi wrote:
Well, it is a bit over the top. But faking anger (or showing it) works as town on TL. I did it in survivor because I knew it would get the pressure off me and as town that is also important. The difference here being that it is really early in the game but still.

I am not sold on coag scum atm at all.

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On March 19 2014 09:17 Koshi wrote:
On March 19 2014 09:13 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 19 2014 09:11 Koshi wrote:
Exactly my thoughts.

I am not skimming rayn atm cuz he is rayn and I need to keep up with him cuz we will be super duper scumfinding bros but I am not anymore interested in finding out what Coag means with his posts. I am simply not going to lynch Coag.


Rayn is MY super townie friend tho.... Jelly.

But yeah. I don't understand how you could NOT want to lynch coag after all this nonsense. Ragin is not a good reason and he has been bullshitting continuously since the initial pressure.


This is how Koshi looks at Coag

Coag post seal (cool he is town) ---> Coag is superactive (cool now he is even more likely town) ---> Coag posts something lets-call-it-silly (w.e) ----> rayn goes ham (ok let's support rayn and see if Coag responds properly) ---> Caog responds quite rage likely (I am back ok with Coag) ---> 120 posts related to coag that are hard to read (fuck this shit, I am not lynching Coag)


Now this is interesting considering this:
On March 19 2014 22:06 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 22:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palmar do you seriously think Koshi and Giggletummy should have had such a strong townread on Coag at that time?

I should. Because I am smart & talented.

It was obvious to me he was town. I told you why a couple times but you wouldn't listen. So pls don't tell me I didn't told you why you should have stopped the tunnel. I did so in 3 different posts.

Care to explain how the green and red go together?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 13:24 GMT
#1087
You NEVER explain why you think Coag is town. NEVER. In any of those posts Koshi.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 13:28 GMT
#1090
On March 19 2014 22:25 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 22:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You NEVER explain why you think Coag is town. NEVER. In any of those posts Koshi.

he was constantly explaining why coag was not scum. In light of the fact that there are only two alignments in the game, a binary function of notscum=town should apply.

Show me one legit reason from Koshi's posts that can be considered as a towntell.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 13:29 GMT
#1093
DarthPunk is Djodref this bad or is he mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 13:32 GMT
#1096
On March 19 2014 22:28 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 22:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 19 2014 22:21 Koshi wrote:
On March 19 2014 22:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi show me those posts where you tell why Coag is town. Maybe i am missing something because i can't find it in your filter.

It was not that Coag is town. But that you were painting him too red for something that wasn't extremely bad in my eyes. I also wanted you to look at other people and not spend all time on Coag. It wasn't doing the town atmosphere any favors. Looking back at my filter I was pretty protective about Coag from the get go but like I said, I am talented.

On March 19 2014 08:28 Koshi wrote:
I need better punctuation sometimes.
Point is: Coag typed stuff to type stuff. Even though it was disruptive, it was not scummy.

On March 19 2014 08:36 Koshi wrote:
Well, it is a bit over the top. But faking anger (or showing it) works as town on TL. I did it in survivor because I knew it would get the pressure off me and as town that is also important. The difference here being that it is really early in the game but still.

I am not sold on coag scum atm at all.

On March 19 2014 09:17 Koshi wrote:
On March 19 2014 09:13 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 19 2014 09:11 Koshi wrote:
Exactly my thoughts.

I am not skimming rayn atm cuz he is rayn and I need to keep up with him cuz we will be super duper scumfinding bros but I am not anymore interested in finding out what Coag means with his posts. I am simply not going to lynch Coag.


Rayn is MY super townie friend tho.... Jelly.

But yeah. I don't understand how you could NOT want to lynch coag after all this nonsense. Ragin is not a good reason and he has been bullshitting continuously since the initial pressure.


This is how Koshi looks at Coag

Coag post seal (cool he is town) ---> Coag is superactive (cool now he is even more likely town) ---> Coag posts something lets-call-it-silly (w.e) ----> rayn goes ham (ok let's support rayn and see if Coag responds properly) ---> Caog responds quite rage likely (I am back ok with Coag) ---> 120 posts related to coag that are hard to read (fuck this shit, I am not lynching Coag)


Now this is interesting considering this:
On March 19 2014 22:06 Koshi wrote:
On March 19 2014 22:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palmar do you seriously think Koshi and Giggletummy should have had such a strong townread on Coag at that time?

I should. Because I am smart & talented.

It was obvious to me he was town. I told you why a couple times but you wouldn't listen. So pls don't tell me I didn't told you why you should have stopped the tunnel. I did so in 3 different posts.

Care to explain how the green and red go together?

Well. That is awkard.
It wasn't obvious from the start and yesterday I was somewhat conflicted but with a clear head I could totally have seen him town. Somewhere I knew he was town, even though one can never be sure sure.

So you are saying you did not consider him town yesterday but you still kept defending him with no real reasoning and tried to make me do something else but didn't tell me what i should do instead. Which is also pretty weird considering your stance in last games (also in this game at the start) has been "shhep marv & rayn, they totes right on D1 if town".

Yes Koshi, that is really awkward and i would like to hear how you explain this.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2014 13:46 GMT
#1107
Djodref tell me, you have no idea of my meta so does it bother you you (who have not played wwith me) call me mafia for something and the people who have played with me do not call me mafia for it?
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