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On March 21 2014 06:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2014 06:47 thrawn2112 wrote:On March 21 2014 06:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have a problem because there is some scum(mers) hiding somewhere and i don't know where. I refuse to believe both of Djodref and GT are mafia because it does not make any sense. And even if they are there is still at least one scum somewhere and i don't know where.
plz halp guis! why aren't you allowed to call ve mafia Because this is my read on VE: ![[image loading]](http://i58.tinypic.com/16k1d08.png) Someone else needs to do something about VE. I think he is mafia but every time he answers me i think he is town because of how he answers me. LOLOLOL
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I answered it bish. Look I can't help that you think I'm scum ury game these days. Yes, I'm not as active as I used to be. Yes I'm aware that you think I'm bad for it. Get over it bruh.
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On March 22 2014 01:23 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2014 01:01 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 21 2014 17:59 Palmar wrote: VE still hasn't answered me who was scumreading him at the time.
The reason I'm so insistent on getting the answer is that I don't think anyone was. In fact if I recall correctly people were being like super reasonable about him being afk, and then he comes back moaning that people have a scumread on him, which seems like massive oversensitivity about his own alignment. If this is what you're referring to, all of Giggletummy, tehpoofter, yourself and rayn (implied, not explicit) thought I was scum. Oh you answered. Now please go and prove these things. I don't think I called you scum, in fact I think I specifically pointed out it wasn't alignment indicative. So show me where these people called you scum. No, I don't care enough. Get over it, your theory is bad and you should feel bad.
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On March 22 2014 01:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: VE do you think Djo looks better than Oats? I do - mainly because of the point he raised against Oats regarding Vivax.
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The reason Oats does that is it's almost certain at the time of Oats' vote switch that Vivax is going to be the lynch unless I'm misremembering. Yes town Oats changes his mind, but the fact is that there was nothing new said - there was no further explanation of the point. Oats DISAGREED with your theory, full stop. Then he voted for Vivax, in such a way that it seemed like he never doubted your read of the situation.
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On March 22 2014 01:28 Palmar wrote: My problem is not activity VE, it's the fact that I think you lied about people scumreading you. I never lied about anything. You're wrong. If I'm exaggerating, then that's one thing - a thing I do ALL THE TIME REGARDLESS OF ALIGNMENT. But at the very least Giggletummy and poofter had me as scum, and those were the "iffy people" I was referring to when I made the statement I assume you're questioning.
You're wasting a LOT of time on this when I'm here interacting with the thread and participating in discussion - all things you've been bitching about me NOT doing all game long. I don't have to tell you how frustrating this is.
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Yeah I just went and saw that. :/
I still think the switch is weird, but yeah the timing isn't what I thought it was.
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If we assume that Djo is town in that situation then there's no reason for scumOats to switch. If we assume that Djo is scum then there's even less reason for scumOats to switch. I don't like ruling people out for suboptimal plays or whatever, but yeah it seems unreasonable to assume that Oats is scum based on the switch.
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One thing I'll say about Oats is that he's playing a WAAAAAY more conservative game than I'm used to seeing from Oats - there's not a whole lot of one-liner interjections calling people scum or questioning them, which is a staple of Oats town-play.
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omg Palmar whatever. I'm literally just ignoring you the rest of the game.
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On March 22 2014 02:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: VE can you answer Palmar about the people you said were suspicious of you at the time he pointed out? Who were those people and why did you think they were suspicious of you? I'll revisit this when it becomes relevant i.e. when I'm under suspicion of being mafia and might get lynched for it. As of right now it's a complete waste of my time, I'm not indulging in this any more. If YOU rayn ask me to do it again, before I'm under suspicion of being mafia and on the table for lynch, then I'm literally not playing this game anymore. It's fucking ridiculous. If you have something else you'd like me to talk about I'm perfectly willing - but me thinking people think I'm scum as a reason for why I'm scum is something I'm not entertaining further this cycle.
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On March 19 2014 19:15 thrawn2112 wrote: yeah i'd lynch ve
On March 20 2014 02:14 thrawn2112 wrote: i'd probably lynch out of this group right now
4. djodref 6. VisceraEyes 8. Vivax 15. Alakaslam
On March 21 2014 00:05 Oatsmaster wrote: Anyway game ez. 1. thrawn2112: town 2. DarthPunk: town 3. Hopeless1der: dunno 4. djodref: scum 5. Holyflare: town 6. VisceraEyes: dunno 7. raynpelikoneet: town 8. Vivax: scum 9. Coagulation: bench of shame 10. tehpoofter: dunno 11. Oatsmaster : town 12. GiggleTummy :town 13. Koshi: town 14. Palmar: town 15. Alakaslam: town
So we lynch into Hopeless/poof/djo/Ve and we will win the game.
On March 19 2014 12:03 Tehpoofter wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/j4yik5Xl.png) This is where I'm at. I'm bad at sizing votes so ill recap. Town: Me, Koshi Mafia: VE, Thrawn Fence From scummiest to least scummy, Coag, Darthpunk, Palmer, Rayn, Holyflare Reasons to come for some of them except VE, he is my most scummy because he tells me hes good then doesn't talk at all bump that lurking bullshit. Like, you can say that I'm just making shit up all you want - the fact of the matter is that several people have stated that they would lynch me - people of questionable intention. That was my observation, it wasn't a fucking lie, and you're bad for pursuing this to this point. I've spent a half of an hour on this bullshit that I could have spent filtering people or talking to people but instead I'm doing this asinine bullshit because you've now convinced rayn of something that's completely untrue.
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In spite of me stating quite clearly that I'm not interested in discussing it rayn - you found it important enough to question me about it IN SPITE of me not wanting to spend any more time on it. Maybe "convinced" isn't the word, but he's wasting a lot of time and he's now included you in it.
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WELL RAYN WHAT DO YOU THINK I'VE ANSWERED
I MEAN SINCE WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT HOW VE THINKING PEOPLE THINK HE'S SCUM MAKES HIM SCUM, I'VE GIVEN INSTANCES I WAS REFERRING TO SO WHATS THE FUCKING VERDICT?!
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Anyway, poofter is looking odd to me.
On March 21 2014 07:53 Tehpoofter wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/OMYJh7P.png) Glad I contributed a lot to the lynch. Good job boys. I honestly didn't think rayn's thing was a big maf tell but now I know! The lynch did bring me to this conclusion though. I think that Rayn Koshi are obviously town --Rayn for me is clear the rest of the game for that if he bussed his own partner that hard he deserves the win so gg. --Koshi bringing it up originally and his reaction to the lynch seemed very town as well. ---Oats comes out from a neutral point to a town point after the lynch for how he pushed it along and brought up the 95%/5% logic to HF. Basically saying hey this is an almost sure thing more of the time so we should roll with it on day 1. I think this put him at the number 3 spot in my town circle. VE for me is a weird spot because his timing of showing up is really odd almost like how i felt in my first ever game where I was getting lynched and read the scum QT first and they were like "omfg you need to talk" and I forced myself to pop in and say something. To me the things that VE has said seem townie but the timing of them in the thread seems weird. Like his whole bit about how hes not convinced and if something changes hes going to stay on GT if he was scum and knew Vivax would flip scum doesn't just going "wow this guy is scum I'm with you!" seem more mafia? The only thing that gets me is when he showed up to the thread so he drops off from townie to neutral because of timing alone. I'm about to go to dinner and look into the thread a bit more to get into where we should lynch. I'm also going to draw another vin Diagram even though you guys called it scummy last time I like the way it represents my reads vs a straight town/maf list. In this post he states that he didn't think rayn's thing was that big a mafia tell...I'm assuming as explanation of why his vote wasn't on Vivax. If that's the case, then why didn't he state as much at the time? I mean if he's townreading Vivax, why not say as much in the thread in his defense? I mean if he's not here that's one thing - but that's not what his post says, his POST says that he didn't think it was that big of a mafia tell. Sooooooooo....why not say as much?
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On March 22 2014 02:44 Palmar wrote: Oats list doesn't say ve is scum and is on page 97 or something which is 20 pages after ve claims he's being called mafia by people who should know better.
I was referring specifically to you and rayn.
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On March 22 2014 02:48 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2014 02:45 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 22 2014 02:44 Palmar wrote: Oats list doesn't say ve is scum and is on page 97 or something which is 20 pages after ve claims he's being called mafia by people who should know better.
I was referring specifically to you and rayn. But I wasn't calling you mafia... WHO THE FUCK CARES? THATS HOW IT SEEMED TO ME PALMAR! WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU WANT ME TO SAY/DO ABOUT IT? I'M NOT SCUM I'M TOWN, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU'VE CAUGHT ME IN A LIE OR MISINTERPRETATION OR WHATEVER THE FUCK, I'M TRYING TO FIND SCUM AND YOU KEEP ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON ABOUT THIS BULLSHIT!
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LIKE PALMAR IS VERY OBVIOUSLY IGNORING EVERYTHING I'M DOING DURING THIS CYCLE! HE'S NOT INTERESTED IN ANY OF THE SCUMHUNTING OR THREAD INTERACTION OR ANYTHING I'M DOING - HE'S JUST SHOVELING SHIT ON ME OVER AND OVER AGAIN IN SPITE OF ME VERY OBVIOUSLY TRYING TO MAKE MY OPINIONS ON OTHERS KNOWN! THIS IS ABSOLUTELY ASININE AND WHATS WORSE IS THAT HE COULD BE TOWN DOING THIS!!
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On March 22 2014 02:53 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2014 02:51 VisceraEyes wrote: LIKE PALMAR IS VERY OBVIOUSLY IGNORING EVERYTHING I'M DOING DURING THIS CYCLE! HE'S NOT INTERESTED IN ANY OF THE SCUMHUNTING OR THREAD INTERACTION OR ANYTHING I'M DOING - HE'S JUST SHOVELING SHIT ON ME OVER AND OVER AGAIN IN SPITE OF ME VERY OBVIOUSLY TRYING TO MAKE MY OPINIONS ON OTHERS KNOWN! THIS IS ABSOLUTELY ASININE AND WHATS WORSE IS THAT HE COULD BE TOWN DOING THIS!! So aren't you wasting time now arguing that he could be town after all this anyway? Who is the scum? Is this real or a troll?
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