I like the point he makes how VE is not showing any decent thought concerning his vote on GT but VE knows very well why Vivax is town. It's odd because Vivax being town was not "obvious".

Wait what is this shit? I made a post specifically about GT okay, and if you didn't like it, you should have said something at the time. What is this?

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

March 20 2014 17:38 GMT

#2047

On March 21 2014 02:32 Palmar wrote:
Vivax's initial contributions did look okay, they were sparse and he ended up disappearing after it, but it wasn't awful I thought at the time at least.

This. I just went and looked over rayn's point. Like, my only question: would scum do what Vivax did knowing that what he said was easily verifiable? Also try out this logic: sometimes as a townie if I'm not fully caught up yet, if I'm to a certain point and I think someone is mafia, I'll then open their filter to see the stuff they say - and sometimes some of the stuff they say occurs AFTER the point where I'm reading to because I can read a filter faster than I can read a thread. Like, I haven't seen Vivax explain this because I haven't looked, has he even tried?

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

March 20 2014 20:05 GMT

#2094

My perspective...
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I haven't read HF's DP case yet. I saw that he made one last night in bed, and had intended to read it this morning, but now there's all this Vivax stuff. I'm sorely tempted to take a match to all this stuff going into tomorrow and starting fresh but I feel like there's a lot of stuff in here that's useful, whether it seems so at a glance or not.

So where I'm at on Vivax is that I had him as town earlier, I've explained why. I can see Vivax doing what he did as town so I'm not going to add my vote to the already decided lynch. Instead I'm leaving my vote on GT because I still feel like he's scum and if Vivax IS town and manages to convince town I want GT to be viable still as a counterwagon.

I'm off to read HF's case on DP. Wish me luck.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

March 20 2014 20:19 GMT

#2107

Let me clarify - I've said things about Giggletummy - things I believe make him scum. Others (many on this Vivax lynch) agree that GT looks scummy and would be a good lynch. I don't feel like I /have/ to do anything to sway anyone. I'm not feeling STRONGLY that Vivax is town, and frankly based on rayn's reasoning I'm coming around to the idea that he's scum. But IF he's town and he's able to convince town (which doesn't look likely based on his last post) then I still want votes on GT. This isn't hard.

After reading HF's case I have a couple of comments. First, HF uses quotes several times during that case and as a result the timeline of the events said to take place are cloudy and uncertain. That being said, the main points of his case (DP is inquisitive as town, DP's not wishy washy as town, etc) I tend to agree with. So I'm going to go filter DP and see what I see.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

March 20 2014 20:23 GMT

#2114

Vivax this is not how a former heavyweight mafia champion goes down as either alignment. Just sayin.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

March 20 2014 20:32 GMT

#2123

Good hit rayn.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

March 20 2014 20:33 GMT

#2130

Good hit Koshi.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

March 20 2014 20:33 GMT

#2131

Koshi wasn't even on lynch LMAO

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

March 20 2014 20:35 GMT

#2134

No I believe you, just thought it was funny. Giggletummy is next imo. Maybe thrawn.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

March 20 2014 20:37 GMT

#2140

I'll look at it later. I'm looking at the votes when I say thrawn - he tried to unvote Hopeless at a point and quickly revoted him...could be trying to test sentiment on another lynch.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

March 20 2014 20:39 GMT

#2146

That was the roleblocker, so that's a pretty important role. This makes anyone opposing the lynch pretty suspicious, myself included. Should be an exciting day tomorrow.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

March 20 2014 20:39 GMT

#2148

Yes that's what I mean obviously XD

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

March 20 2014 20:40 GMT

#2150

On March 21 2014 05:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VisceraEyes

Koshi
thrawn
DarthPunk
Alakaslam
tehpoofter
Oatsmaster
Palmar
Holyflare
Hopeless1der
GiggleTummy
djodref

This is getting tiring - if you think I'm scum just say so.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

March 20 2014 20:44 GMT

#2153

Roleblocker is an important role. Unvoting to gauge thread sentiment and immediately revoting is certainly viable if you're scum. Just calm down and wait until I read your interactions before you start tunneling plz.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

March 20 2014 20:55 GMT

#2165

The pages in question GT seem to be rayn and Holyflare going on Hopeless for misusing meta and at least rayn calling him scum for it. What is confusing to you?

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

March 20 2014 22:14 GMT

#2253

Well I'm town. Rayn explain the actual reasons you think I'm scum and I'll try and explain myself. I feel like showing /you/ that I'm town and taking myself off your plate is going to be a huge boon for town going into tomorrow.

Just don't say "Just find scum" because people say shit like that to me all the time when I /am/ and /have been/ looking for scum.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

March 20 2014 22:15 GMT

#2255

Like I realize I'm not "on your plate" already because you're leaving that for someone else - but I think it will add clarity to your thoughts if you don't have that nagging suspicion of me going forward if that makes sense.