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On March 22 2014 03:15 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2014 03:13 Holyflare wrote:
I've explained my reaction. So many times. Rayn says someone is lying. I have precedent that says lying isn't necessarily scummy because of titanic 2 where it happened in exactly the same way (someone with lack of time lied about page numbers) rayn doesn't explain anymore than that. I ask why he's so adamant a guy is scum just because of that lie when others have flat out lied and he calls them town. I pose a situation where the filter thing could come from scum. People say the pahe number tjing is legit but still don't explain why. Rayn breaks it down all nice and simplified. I see it's obvious. I vote obvious scum.
Pretty simple it was never because of "lying about page numbers". it was lying about having seen content and having the chance to form reads based on things before or after a listed page number. And you knew this because you cited "oh he checked filters" (or was that oats, i thought both).
I said that's the reason he could be scummy. So.. I was right -.- everyone else said it was a lie about page numbers and i am the one that gave the reason ehy the page numver thing could come from scum, it wasn't about content until rayn explained it properly with a link that i could check from phone
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Ok look i am the king of bussing. Vivax in your own words is "95/5" likely to flip scum.
Do i:
A) super hardcore defend a mafia partner so i look really really bad when it's an obvious mafia flip
B) sit along quietly for the super awesome town cred
B is always the option i take.
I am town, rayn said it was about page numbers. Townies can lie about page numbers. Then he said it was about content. Townies can lie about content and grab stuff from filters later. Then rayn explains it's that he called people scum for page 40 and had 0 reasoning for his initial reads before page 40.
Lynch obvious scum.
What alignment am i?
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Giggle I'm surprised that you are not reading filter (not really surprised) i gave my explanation on the scenario where i think you are town. I actually explored the situation where vivax was telling the truth about poofter scum with rayn. I point out where he is lying, where he is defending another player based on lies. I explore.
You have done no ecploring its just "hf is mafia" if i am mafia who are the other mafia? What was happening day 1 in your opinion in the mafia team. My opinion is that dp is mafia, that should be evident. I thought you were likely town for this which is backed up by dp now saykng i don't think giggle and djo are mafia together despite you both being his scum reads all day. Its this scummy shit you keep spouting avout me that is putting me off you and tgat is why i am undecided.
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On March 22 2014 03:43 Hopeless1der wrote:
HF who is dying tonight?
Koshi or palmar most probably.
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There are also 4 blues. The 16 heads follow the line of thought that sentinel thinks the hydra was only koag and kush. Hence 16 faces cz 2 of them are hydra. There are 4 blues.
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On March 25 2014 20:09 Koshi wrote:
DP did you crumb cop by saying "COP PLS CHECK ME" 24/7?
I lol'd
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If I'm scum i bus if I'm town I'm right. Legitimate heuristic for next games ppl gogo.
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On March 25 2014 20:21 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2014 20:20 Holyflare wrote:
If I'm scum i bus if I'm town I'm right. Legitimate heuristic for next games ppl gogo. God. If you think you played well that is like the opposite of what you should take away from this game.
I never said i played well i said i was right.
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Themed games don't count as reaaaaaaaaal  besides that was my first time playing with prome
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On March 25 2014 21:18 Koshi wrote:
Ahhhh now I also remember the reaction to DP to my Vivax accusation.
DP called me out for calling Vivax mafia because Vivax said reasonable things.
I ask what Vivax meant in his opening post.
DP had no idea.
Damned. I really need to have a system in which I keep giving scummy points for things I don't like.
Or save it somewhere.
Next game.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445107-iii-titanic-mini-mafia-ms-paint-edition?page=111#2207
x_x
Also, this was ALMOST the correct play :O!
On March 15 2014 02:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have a brilliant game plan that can't possibly fail:
D1 lynch whoever Holyflare says because he's most likely right or bussing.
D2 lynch Holyflare because he was changing his scumplay or he wasn't.
D3 ask Coag to post his townie seal. Lynch him because if he doesn't he's mafia, if he does - policy.
D4 lynch DarthPunk as a policy to ruin his scum stats.
D5 lynch Koshi because at some point he will call me mafia and regardless of my affiliation convince Palmar it's the correct play to top my chances of winning the game. Also he has already won a game as SK and noone should win two games as SK.
D6 lynch VE - same SK reasoning as for Koshi.
D7 lynch Wave based on a feeling that he might be mafia.
D8 party with Palmar - lynch Artanis because he hasn't posted enough (i decide what's enough).
Profit!
edit: forgot something
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On March 25 2014 21:42 Djodref wrote:I don't know, I think I should have been mafia mislynch for D1, so many town players were already on me before GT wagon really started to get traction... I would like to praise both Palmar and DP for the effort they put into this game, it's really hard to imagine people posting as much as scum and even if some posts were scummy, it's hard to really get to the incriminating part with such huge filters. Of course, rayn and koshi deserve some praise as well. I think you could try to soften up a little rayn because some of your agressive posts really put me in a position where I didn't want to try anymore. Holyflare, you may be right, but your play is almost anti-town. I had to spend so much time trying to get where you were going, and try to get if you were mafia or not. As for me, I'll do better next time 
if you actually read the content that would be cool, there are filter buttons for that.
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Also, I skimmed up to this point, but could people explain the "hosts fucked up thing" because I missed the reasoning there.
did you send paint pictures for cop checks?
also there was no fake pm's etc so dp quoted the op's cop instead of just the single line of cop pm (his mistake, should probably have known from his own pm really)
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On March 25 2014 22:32 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2014 22:30 Djodref wrote:On March 25 2014 22:27 Hopeless1der wrote:On March 25 2014 22:22 Djodref wrote:
Anyway, DP claiming cop was weird for other reasons.
I don't understand how you justify to be begging in the thread to be checked by the cop and then claim to be the cop yourself. I thought that rayn was referencing to this honestly when I saw the post "do you see what I'm seeing?".
I have to agree with DP that it's unfair though, and also town being in a position where just playing "follow the cop" is possible is a little lame imho. Even if given the possibility I would 100% do it ^^ begging for cop claims as cop isnt that farfetched. It keeps suspicion on you and scum bullets off you which is kind of what you want as blue. I don't know, I think the best you can do to get scum bullets off your back is just not taking part of all the blue wifom talk at night. If you check the scum qt, you are never been mentioned as a potential cop or medic. Your attitude is simply the best to have I guess i was hoping to leverage my scumminess into developing a redcheck, which is probably why I was so set on checking holyflare, because he was one of the only people to call me scum.
so you play scummy and then assume the people calling you scum are mafia...? x_x?
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On March 25 2014 23:04 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2014 22:54 Holyflare wrote:On March 25 2014 22:32 Hopeless1der wrote:On March 25 2014 22:30 Djodref wrote:On March 25 2014 22:27 Hopeless1der wrote:On March 25 2014 22:22 Djodref wrote:
Anyway, DP claiming cop was weird for other reasons.
I don't understand how you justify to be begging in the thread to be checked by the cop and then claim to be the cop yourself. I thought that rayn was referencing to this honestly when I saw the post "do you see what I'm seeing?".
I have to agree with DP that it's unfair though, and also town being in a position where just playing "follow the cop" is possible is a little lame imho. Even if given the possibility I would 100% do it ^^ begging for cop claims as cop isnt that farfetched. It keeps suspicion on you and scum bullets off you which is kind of what you want as blue. I don't know, I think the best you can do to get scum bullets off your back is just not taking part of all the blue wifom talk at night. If you check the scum qt, you are never been mentioned as a potential cop or medic. Your attitude is simply the best to have I guess i was hoping to leverage my scumminess into developing a redcheck, which is probably why I was so set on checking holyflare, because he was one of the only people to call me scum. so you play scummy and then assume the people calling you scum are mafia...? x_x? it only works if I almost get lynched
but you were playing scummy and then nobody was calling you scum, that is normally a tell that you would be scum :o
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