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On March 21 2014 12:53 Holyflare wrote: already displayed that that's wrong dp. that is why doing a catch up is terrible
Literally you say things like 'This guy is confirmed mafia',' I have disproven this or that.' When in fact he isn't and you haven't and all you do is talk shit.
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On March 21 2014 09:56 Hopeless1der wrote: i honestly have no idea wtf holy is diong atm this game
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On March 21 2014 13:00 Holyflare wrote: so you're saying "is holy ACTUALLY scum this game" which implies you think i'm town being retarded, then all of these posts and quotes are used to discredit me instead of actually finding out who is scum
In honestly wasn't sure at all. Sadly I think you are quite capable of this crap as town, as I have stated numerous times already. IN fact my initial thought was that you were just crap town. But the more and more you shit up the thread and make crap cases and make no sense the more likely I think it is that you are mafia.
Especailly after you hard defended the mafia roleblocker for ages by attacking me, and the entire lynch, and then limply stumbling onto the wagon at the last minute.
You keep asking people to catch scum, but literally all you have done this game is attack myself and hopeless who are both likely town since the beginning of the game and not ceased. You have shat up the thread with a tunnel that you promised to stop and have not stopped. I am pretty sure you just fake claimed vigilante and then backed down in like 15 minutes from that claim and you seem incapable of doing anything but trashing myself and hopeless.
You keep saying other peoples filters are crap, or filled with shit. But I can assure you that your filter is the most useless scummy piece of crap in this game and you have accomplished exactly nothing aside from park your vote on me from the first 5 minutes of the game and argue against a scum lynch.
So yeah. I am wondering if you could be scum after all because I am not sure that even you could be this awful.
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@VE
You said you were interested in holyflares case and that you were going to filter me. You have not mentioned it since. What became of that filter dive. Surely after reading a longish filter there is something to talk about.
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On March 21 2014 13:08 Holyflare wrote: scum holyflare argues against scum vivax with 9 people on a wagon, do i do that as scum or would i gain free cred and silently bus?
When you started it was not a wagon with 9 people. It was rayn and I and that was it. You immediately attacked me like a rabid dog in a clear chainsaw defense of scum.
Then everyone else joined and you shut the fuck up and limped onto the wagon when we didn't even need you.
That argument is bullshit like the rest of it.
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Timeline. Or why Holyflare is a scummy bastard
Rayn makes his case on Vivax
Holyflare immediately hard defends him
On March 20 2014 23:02 Holyflare wrote: What benefit does he have of lying about page numbers? If we're lynching liars we lynch dp for lying about everything he's said or poofter for lying about DPs case on him
On March 20 2014 23:04 Holyflare wrote: What if he meant 40 pages into the game which started 20 pages in :ooooooo
Chainsaw defense of Vivax against me begins:
On March 20 2014 23:05 Holyflare wrote: Dp unvote is hilarious btw
On March 20 2014 23:08 Holyflare wrote: He has thepoofter as scum for being a confirmed liar to him and that was a 100% scum read but he isn't voting him because the afk scum tell that he has on the guy that posted the same logic he used on me was obviously stronger than 100% to then speedy unvote because page numbers didn't match up
First Vivax vote
On March 20 2014 23:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:![[image loading]](http://i62.tinypic.com/a0dyjq.png)
Continued hard defense
On March 20 2014 23:10 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2014 23:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 20 2014 23:04 Holyflare wrote: What if he meant 40 pages into the game which started 20 pages in :ooooooo Well then the part about GT is a lie, because then his comment "GT has posted good stuff since then" does not hold water. His case on Hopeless literally starts from the point where GT stops posting, so one or another thing MUST be a lie. Well then let me restate, what benefit does scum have about lying avout page numbers because you know full well cora did the same thing in titanic 2 and he was town
(Dumbest meta from a different player argument in the world)
Second Vote on Vivax
Holyflare's next post is immediately more desperate
On March 20 2014 23:16 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2014 23:14 DarthPunk wrote:On March 20 2014 23:13 Holyflare wrote:On March 20 2014 23:08 Holyflare wrote: He has thepoofter as scum for being a confirmed liar to him and that was a 100% scum read but he isn't voting him because the afk scum tell that he has on the guy that posted the same logic he used on me was obviously stronger than 100% to then speedy unvote because page numbers didn't match up If rayn was correct which I see no reason to doubt at the time, he slipped. why would I not vote for him lol?| HOW IS IT A SLIP WHEN A TOWN DID THE SAME THING IN TITANIC 2 NOT TO MENTION 60 IS 40 PAGES IN NOT TO MENTION YOU ARE SCUM
Continued hard defense and chainsaw defense
On March 20 2014 23:24 Holyflare wrote: What benefit does mafia have from lying about a god damn fact checkable page number? You flat out unvoted a 100% scum suspect confirmed liar to vote someone who agreed with you but was afk because you were sheeping sentiment and said nothint about his case that followd your logic now the second someone says something aboit page numbers not adding up you unvote from your 2 TOP scum reads because...? Oh yeh page numbers totally scum slip ggggg so much pro skill here.
What you don't say and what rayn didn't say is that the reason he could be mafia because of the page number thing is that he picked 2 targets abd used their filters to make cases thus the age numbers do not make sense because he was grasping at straws to make cases. You do not do that. You don't play this game like a towny.
On March 20 2014 23:29 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2014 23:26 DarthPunk wrote:On March 20 2014 23:24 Holyflare wrote: What benefit does mafia have from lying about a god damn fact checkable page number? You flat out unvoted a 100% scum suspect confirmed liar to vote someone who agreed with you but was afk because you were sheeping sentiment and said nothint about his case that followd your logic now the second someone says something aboit page numbers not adding up you unvote from your 2 TOP scum reads because...? Oh yeh page numbers totally scum slip ggggg so much pro skill here.
What you don't say and what rayn didn't say is that the reason he could be mafia because of the page number thing is that he picked 2 targets abd used their filters to make cases thus the age numbers do not make sense because he was grasping at straws to make cases. You do not do that. You don't play this game like a towny. I mean that is a good point. But why are you (Vivax) making cases then without reading the whole fucking thread? especially taking shit out of the context that you could not possibly understand, cause you know, he hadn't read that part of the thread. Which is what you did with your unvote before fact checking. Also the fact that what you said makes it even more unlikely for him to be scum because why lie about a page number so why are you voting him straight away?
On March 20 2014 23:33 Holyflare wrote:Omg you are such a fuxking tool. Vivax said he called giggle mafia at the point he read up to pg 40. He doesn't say he is at page 40 now...
On March 20 2014 23:36 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2014 23:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 20 2014 23:33 Holyflare wrote:Omg you are such a fuxking tool. Vivax said he called giggle mafia at the point he read up to pg 40. He doesn't say he is at page 40 now... no. Vivax is mafia. stop. it's really clear. You asked him about one of his first posts. He says it was on page 40 that he made that so it wasn't updated. Where does he say anything other than that?
On March 20 2014 23:38 DarthPunk wrote: Holy is acting really weird by hard defending Vivax like this IMO
I state that holy is acting weird with his hard defense. Currently two votes on Vivax
On March 20 2014 23:39 Oatsmaster wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Gx3qET0.png) If Vivax was town and thought that Hopeless/thrawn was scum before he made the case, he would have posts to analyze from before that point. Which he didnt as I understand. Scum!
Makes another post defending vivax one minute after oats' vote. He probably didn;t see the oats vote.
On March 20 2014 23:40 Holyflare wrote: But you already think I'm scummy so hue who cares right? I have a precedent that even if he lied about page numbers townies can do that too because cora did it as vig in titanic 2. I see the information someone layed out and am not blindly following it. Dp tou are abysmal.
On March 20 2014 23:40 Palmar wrote:ok, I'm in. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/4tluOGV.png) Not only this rayn thing, DP also pointed out the thing where Vivax had time to write up his entire schedule but no time to write a few sentences on a scumread (which he must've had formed in order to have a scumread, so it's not a reading issue). Also, Koshi promised me to lynch vivax if he hadn't posted 40 posts.
Palmar joins the wagon
Vote Tally: 4
On March 20 2014 23:42 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2014 23:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 20 2014 23:36 Holyflare wrote:On March 20 2014 23:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 20 2014 23:33 Holyflare wrote:Omg you are such a fuxking tool. Vivax said he called giggle mafia at the point he read up to pg 40. He doesn't say he is at page 40 now... no. Vivax is mafia. stop. it's really clear. You asked him about one of his first posts. He says it was on page 40 that he made that so it wasn't updated. Where does he say anything other than that? Why is this so hard? The post you are talking about here is the same post where he calls Hopeless and thrawn mafia. He says at the time he made that post he was ~p40. However, later on, when he makes his cases on thrawn and Hopeless there is not a single thing that has happened on page 1 - page40 and everything in his cases has happened AFTER page 40.So do you think Vivax thought at the time (when he was on page 40) he made the post, that Hopeless and thrawn are mafia when 8 hours later there is nothing in his case from that time? Does it go paste page ~60 because that is also 40 pages in. Abd don't you dare talk to me about getting obvious things after you were being dense with the ve/giggle posts
On March 20 2014 23:43 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2014 23:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't know what Vivax is lying about. Is it page numbers or what the fuck ever but the fact is he is lying about something. Then you should be lynching dp for lying and poofter for lying
a last weak defensewhich is MUCH weaker than his previous votes
On March 20 2014 23:44 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2014 23:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 20 2014 23:42 Holyflare wrote:On March 20 2014 23:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 20 2014 23:36 Holyflare wrote:On March 20 2014 23:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 20 2014 23:33 Holyflare wrote:Omg you are such a fuxking tool. Vivax said he called giggle mafia at the point he read up to pg 40. He doesn't say he is at page 40 now... no. Vivax is mafia. stop. it's really clear. You asked him about one of his first posts. He says it was on page 40 that he made that so it wasn't updated. Where does he say anything other than that? Why is this so hard? The post you are talking about here is the same post where he calls Hopeless and thrawn mafia. He says at the time he made that post he was ~p40. However, later on, when he makes his cases on thrawn and Hopeless there is not a single thing that has happened on page 1 - page40 and everything in his cases has happened AFTER page 40.
So do you think Vivax thought at the time (when he was on page 40) he made the post, that Hopeless and thrawn are mafia when 8 hours later there is nothing in his case from that time? Does it go paste page ~60 because that is also 40 pages in. Abd don't you dare talk to me about getting obvious things after you were being dense with the ve/giggle posts IF HE HAS READ UNTIL PAGE 70 (which is where his case on Hopeless stops) HE HAS ALSO READ GT'S POSTS IN WHICH CASE HE WOULD NOT CALL HIM MAFIA IN THE FIRST PLACE. That's all the information i wanted bro.
[b]And he pulls out of his defense completely after 4 votes on the wagon.
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On March 21 2014 13:37 Holyflare wrote: lol dp, all rayn had said at that point was "vivax was lying about page numbers" which didn't mean anything to do with an alignment. I changed my mind after he said he was lying about the content that was in the filter and linked the filter and talked about the posts in paticular.
Either way, i self confirm tomorrow I told you you are wasting your time so let me ask again, who is scum?
You. And probably one of Djo/GT not sure which.
I want VE to answer my question when he comes back. And no you are not a vigilante Holyflare so don't even bother lol.
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On March 21 2014 13:37 Holyflare wrote: lol dp, all rayn had said at that point was "vivax was lying about page numbers" which didn't mean anything to do with an alignment.
Liar. You knew exactly what rayn meant and that is obvious in the way you defended him. Especially after rayn voted for him. Liar.
You are scum and you are going to hang and it is going to be Awesome.
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On March 21 2014 13:40 Holyflare wrote: so both of your scum reads only 1 of them is scum? why? what basis have you got to make any kind of post like that whatsoever
I don't think they are both scum. I don't think it is likely and that is all I have to say about it. Especially because sent balances teams and I don;t think that Vivax + GT + Djo + X is balanced.
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On March 21 2014 13:42 Holyflare wrote: oh wait you cant because you will be dead
Whatever dude. You are scum and will shoot me grats. Then you will get lynched after I flip town and you will flip scum and I am ok with that
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Actually GT can't be scum because why would he bus holyflare like that? So if holyflare flips scum don't lynch GT.
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On March 21 2014 13:45 Holyflare wrote: hey look there's 1 fundamental flaw in this plan if there was another vig he could counteclaim me fuckwit
Why bother? when there is not two shots tonight and I am a dead townie he gets to live
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On March 21 2014 13:46 Holyflare wrote: yes thrawn but there's 1 simple answer, i didn't read any of his case and i didn't draw any conclusions from it because i didn't care at the time i was writing the dp case (as you can see the next page) i was just responding in real time to his random points
NO the answer is you are scum
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On March 21 2014 13:47 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2014 13:46 DarthPunk wrote:On March 21 2014 13:45 Holyflare wrote: hey look there's 1 fundamental flaw in this plan if there was another vig he could counteclaim me fuckwit Why bother? when there is not two shots tonight and I am a dead townie he gets to live  so i say im shooting dp and then i claim to shoot another person at the deadline and dp and the other person dies what happens then?
Then you are vig. But I don't believe that will happen.
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OK so here is the plan. If HF is lying about being vig, lynch him because he is scum.
If I die and there is no vig shot lynch him because he is scum.
The only way we should not be lynching holyflare tomorrow is if he claims his vig shot instantly before deadline. Even then scum have a chance at two shots one night I believe, so he could still be mafia.
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On March 21 2014 13:50 Holyflare wrote:i would not roll scum for an 8th/9th time in a row and post 21 pages of filter before n1 had even ended it's quite obvious  if dp says post count matters then this must be the truth
No I only said it matters if it was a meta case, and it did not match my meta. I am not using a meta case. You are scum.
And if you were really the vig you would not care about me calling you scum because you will be confirmed town. So you are lying about that also
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On March 21 2014 13:53 Holyflare wrote: I lie about vig as scum - vig counterclaims (-1 scum) I lie about vig as town - nothing happens you lynch me (-1 town) I lie about vig as town - get counterclaimed by some retard (-1 town)
Does option 1 look like superb scum play to you?
If you are really the vig you have nothing to worry about. But I think we both know you are lying. So carry on.
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On March 21 2014 13:55 Holyflare wrote: why are you blue fishing dp?
Fuck off. you started talk of being vig when you claimed you were shooting me.
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On March 21 2014 13:56 Holyflare wrote: so i am vig and then im not blue fishing or.......? you are the one tryingto determine whether i am blue or not
No. You are not blue you are scum. That is the end of it.
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On March 21 2014 14:10 Holyflare wrote: i say i'm a self confirming blue role, he tries to post more and more that i'm not, why would he do that if i could just prove myself tomorrow?
No I said the real vig should not claim. I said you were full of shit, that your claim is wrong and that you are scum. If you are somehow the vig I will be proved wrong but I don't believe that will happen because you are a liar and scum.
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